Just added DD16 to car insurance and it more than doubled

One fallacy that's been mentioned here: Girls are not cheaper to insure than boys. That used to be true in the past, but it was discriminatory, so the insurance companies raised the girls' rates to match that of the boys.

Insurance companies have adjusted not because of discrimination, but instead because the gap has closed.

Historically, teen girls actually had more accidents per mile than teen boys. But teen boys drove more miles AND tended to have a higher incidence of severe accidents. Those stats still hold true, but to a much lesser extent than in the past. So that's the reason for the rates coming together.
 
Our insurance would have gone up $1100 to add DD as an occassional driver (3 drivers and 2 cars a 2009 Hybrid Camry and a 2009 Honda AND a 20% good student discount) They recommended getting her a "beater" and insuring that, hybrids were more to insure. We opted to wait to get her license until she is 18, it will give her a lot more driving experience with us with her too. It goes down considerably then. A lot of her friends don't have their licenses so she is okay with it. Plus 2 had accidents and it scared them. She will soon be 18 and we will be getting her license then. Being around her High School and watching the kids driving scared me, half were texting and had 3 or 4 friends with them, an accident waiting to happen. I had to laugh when a mom told me what a responsible driver her daughter was!!! She was texting and almost hit me.
 
Thank you for your responses! I feel a little better that I'm not being duped. My agent did say it would be worthwhile to get an old car for her to drive and just have liability on it, but no money for another car! I felt a little ill when I found out how much it would be to insure her lol, especially because I have another DD14 who is taking drivers ed next summer. :eek: Well, this will be nothing per month compared to in a few years when she's in college, so guess I better start getting used to these expenses! Seriously thinking about getting another PT job which seems ludicrous for a child's expenses, but no way can she have a job during the school year since she's in sports.

SO, thank you DISers! I feel better that I'm not alone - but sorry we all have to pay these rates!
 
Our insurance would have gone up $1100 to add DD as an occassional driver (3 drivers and 2 cars a 2009 Hybrid Camry and a 2009 Honda AND a 20% good student discount) They recommended getting her a "beater" and insuring that, hybrids were more to insure. We opted to wait to get her license until she is 18, it will give her a lot more driving experience with us with her too. It goes down considerably then. A lot of her friends don't have their licenses so she is okay with it. Plus 2 had accidents and it scared them. She will soon be 18 and we will be getting her license then. Being around her High School and watching the kids driving scared me, half were texting and had 3 or 4 friends with them, an accident waiting to happen. I had to laugh when a mom told me what a responsible driver her daughter was!!! She was texting and almost hit me.

Oh you're so lucky! I tried to get my DD to not get her license, but if you didn't get your license within one year later of the permit, then you had to take permit over, which was nerve wracking for my DD in itself. If I EVER see or hear of my DD texting and driving, I will be irate and she will not drive!! But, she probably does, right? (Crushing I hope not) We get the good student discount - maybe we will look into a car. Perhaps it would be worth it in the long run when I consider two more daughters (of course the youngest is 10 so I have awhile for her ha ha).
 

Our Umbrella policy went up as well when we added our 16 year old driver to the auto policy.
 
Our Umbrella policy went up as well when we added our 16 year old driver to the auto policy.

Our umbrella policy tripled when DS turned 16.

We are in Georgia, and have State Farm insurance. DH and I drive a 2013 Nissan Pathfinder and a 2012 Subaru Forrester. We have $1,000,000 in coverage for each of our policies, and DH and I pay around $1600 per year for our insurance.

We put DS in our 2002 Nissan Maxima, LIABILITY ONLY, and his premiums are $1200 per year, with all of the discounts that are allowed with State Farm.

Teenagers are just more to insure. Just wait until you get them a nicer car and have liability and comprehensive - our agent said to expect his premium to double or triple what we currently pay - until age 24 :scared1:
 
I was BLOWN away by how much our insurance went up when we added our DS to our policy! OUCH!
 
I still remember the day I turned 18, my mother took me to get my cars switched over in my name and said have fun paying your own insurance.
 
One fallacy that's been mentioned here: Girls are not cheaper to insure than boys. That used to be true in the past, but it was discriminatory, so the insurance companies raised the girls' rates to match that of the boys.

California is the same way, same rates for male or female. They also don't give discounts based on age. It's now based on years of experience.
 
I still remember the day I turned 18, my mother took me to get my cars switched over in my name and said have fun paying your own insurance.

My dad bought my car but I had to pay the insurance. Silly me, at that age I thought I had the better deal :laughing:
 
That sounds about right. When DD2 was 16, our insurance would have went from $466 every 6 months to $1020.

That was with one vehicle.

She didn't get her license at 16, because she wasn't ready. She just didn't get things like slowing down for curves, safe stopping distances, etc. No matter how much she drove with us, within 3 miles of starting, we would have to take over because she just wasn't being safe. No amount of drivers ed (took it twice) and driving with others (5 adults took turns) was helping her.

For example, we were going down a 2 lane road (with ditches on both sides), and it curved---well, the speed limit on that curve is 10 mph. She tried taking it at 35 and we ended up in the ditch. (She had to pay for the tow to get us out of the ditch, btw) Another example, we were on a fairly busy street, and she ended up having to swerve into the right turn lane because she didn't leave enough stopping distance.



She got her license when she turned 18 and moved out of the house...and the insurance company added her (without permission) as an adult driver. I had to fight to get her off the insurance. The insurance company kept telling me I had to insure her, because if you have a license, you have to have insurance. I finally got it through their heads--after 4 reps and 2 supervisors--that she didn't live with us, didn't drive our car, and was responsible for her own darn bills.

Anyways, yes, the insurance rates skyrocket when you have teen drivers. Or young adults also.
 
We will have two teen boys driving at the same time I am afraid.

I am told insurance doesn't go up when they have a probationary/provisional license, which you can keep for one year.

My oldest is 15 and could get his probationary license, but we are holding off a bit as he has some goals he needs to meet first before we will let him get his license.

I dread finding out the cost of insurance.
 
My son goes to college in a couple weeks, is not taking a car with him and the school is >200 miles away. So that means I can drop him back to an occasional driver? Wonder how much that will save....

Must call insurance co today
 
My insurance company told me that males were considered 'youthful drivers' until age 28. Maybe it depends on the company.
 
Yep. Our insurance doubled when we added ds now 19. Great student, etc.

He had an accident two weeks ago. His fault. Totaled his car. Dropped it but have to keep insurance in him. Dropping his car only dropped the ins by $200. Afraid of how much it will go up next time with the accident.

But wait it gets better. Other ds is 16 and learning to drive and then we have a 14 year old ds who expects to be driving too as soon as he is 16.

Can you say working just to pay for insurance for 3 underage male drivers? Arghh!

It was so much easier when they were babies.
 
We found that the least costly option was to list our teen as the primary driver of one car. Of course, that meant buying them a car but we had planned to anyway.

We get a good student discount for DD17 which saves a little as well.
 
This is why I've taken the mean-mom tactic of not allowing DS to get his license the minute he turns 16. Our insurance - basic liability, not full coverage - will more than double, almost triple. He's at the older end of his grade because he was held back in early elem, so he could have his license half-way through his freshman year (this coming school year) but I didn't even allow drivers ed yet. I'm not sure if we'll have him take it next summer or wait one more so that he'll be getting his license at 18 and going on his own policy.
 
We will have two teen boys driving at the same time I am afraid.

I am told insurance doesn't go up when they have a probationary/provisional license, which you can keep for one year.

My oldest is 15 and could get his probationary license, but we are holding off a bit as he has some goals he needs to meet first before we will let him get his license.

I dread finding out the cost of insurance.
Almost. I have a 16-year old and a 19-year old driver, so I'm very up on these distinctions. Remember, too, we're in the same state.

Once the 15 year old has taken driver's ed, he is eligible for a Learner's Permit (not a license). This is probationary /provisional in that he is only allowed to drive with a licensed driver supervising (supervising driver must have 5 years -- I think it's 5 years -- experience behind the wheel, so a 16-year old cannot supervise his 15-year old friend). The family's insurance doesn't go up when the 15-year old has a permit, which makes sense: If something goes wrong, it's considered to be the fault of the supervising driver; he or she -- not the 15-year old -- would be given the ticket and held at fault for an accident. Any claim would go to the supervising driver's insurance. When this permit is issued, it is good 'til the teen turns 18. So if the new driver is 16 when he gets the Learner's Permit, it's good for two years; whereas, if he gets it at 16 1/2, it's only good for a year and a half. At 18 he can renew the Learner's Permit, and he still wouldn't be paying any insurance -- but, of course, no one actually does this because it would mean still being forced to drive only with the supervising driver. Also, the first two years of driving will = sky-high insurance, whether the driver is 16 or 18 or 25.

Once the teen has had the Learner's Permit for a full year, he is eligible for a License. At that point he must be insured because he is able to drive without supervision. For the first 6- months, the initially licensed driver is limited to driving between 6 am and 9 pm, and he is limited in the number of passengers he can carry.

Once he's had that initial license for 6 months, he is eligible to get his "After 9s" License. This does require another trip to the DMV, but this license removes the 6-9 restriction. Although the driver is not restricted by law at this point, his license isn't quite the same as an adult's license -- infractions are viewed more sternly, and the 16 1/2-18 year old driver can lose his license more easily than can an adult driver with years of experience.


My husband and my thoughts on these laws:

With this "stair step" license program, the state is trying to do what good parents have always done: Ease kids into driving slowly.

We allowed our kids to get their Learner's Permits as soon as possible. We reasoned that having a permit didn't automatically mean they could get a "real license" at 16 . . . but it did allow them to begin practicing with us for as long a time as possible. At each stage, the parent must sign, so if your child has a Learner's Permit, and you think he's not ready for the license . . . he cannot move ahead without your permission -- not 'til he's 18. The driver's ed classes in our area are overly-full, and kids often can't get a seat as early as they'd like, so most teens in our area aren't getting permits 'til they're 16 1/2 - 17, and this means they're not eligible for licenses 'til they're 17 1/2 - 18. We sidestepped that by going with private driver's ed lessons (it was their big Christmas present), and we were very pleased with that decision.

It's important to us that our kids have plenty of short, close-to-home solo driving practice before they're 18 and head out to college. Once they're college students living away from home, our opportunity to teach them is lessened, so we want to know that they've mastered this skill before we turn them loose to drive several hours to and from school.

We wrote up a driving contract for our girls. It spells out exactly what costs we will pay, actions that could lead to them losing their driving privledges, and what would happen if they were to be in a their-fault accident. The biggest thing we emphasize is that even though they are licensed drivers, they are not yet experienced drivers. As such, we sometimes limit where they can drive. For example, when our oldest was 16 and had had her license only a week, she announced that she and a friend were driving to a music-street festival in a nearby city. Ah, no. Streets she didn't know, a fairly lengthy drive, heavy traffic, people drinking and driving -- no. It's a parent's job to keep kids from getting into situations over their heads, and she genuinely didn't understand that she wasn't yet ready to drive in any situation just yet.
 
Ok - how about this. We switched from Geico to Progressive and while DH was giving them our information they entered my DDs info in and our insurance went up. DD was 17 at that time and did not have a permit or a license - she is 20 now and still doesn't want to get her permit - but we have to pay insurance on her "in case" she does get her permit/license. I laughed, because I did not learn to drive until I turned 40....so I know my daughter is in no rush to get hers. Our insurance went up a bit - not double/triple like some of you, but it did increase :confused3
 












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