Julie's continual struggle (WW thread - comments VERY welcome!!)

Hi Julie!

I'm sorry the dentist office visit didn't go as planned. :( That is great news about the airfare though! We booked my MIL through Airtran for our trip to Florida at $69/each way. The next day, DING had airfare around $48/each way. Although we couldn't take advantage of it, DING is a good thing! :goodvibes (Maybe that should be their slogan. :rotfl: )

Hope you have a good evening, Julie! :goodvibes
 
Wednesday - already???? This morning still holding at 169.5.

Breakfast decaf & scone (6)

Hopefully today will be a bit calmer....the only place I know I need to go is to take DD to DH for fencing.

My mouth is still sore and I 'm very tired, again. I'm hoping to squeeze in a nap when DS16 leaves for work. Today I need to list ebay, package and mail ebay(on the way to take DD so I don't have to make a special trip down there) and at some point, I will exercise. It's overcast so I might just take the pups for a long walk in the stroller, or just WATP.

Next week DH has to lay off his employees and he is beginning to get stressed. He said 1 was in his office for hours yesterday talking about layoffs, but DH can not even hint that this guy is going to be one of them Very hard.

Our church is collecting 'hygiene kits', new underwear & socks for Hurricane evacuees, so I'll probably stop at WM tonight and buy some items. They have set up a website to alert the community to needs .....www.helpoutnow.org .....

Hope everyone is having a good Wednesday! HUMP day!! (DD's least favorite day as it is the day she gets teased the most .....our last name is HUMPton. poor kid)
 
Warning: If you're not up to more in the saga of my DS19, skip this post. I needed desperately to vent.

I was tired when I got up this morning. Now I'm too emotionally exhausted to sleep.

Got DD off to school - barely. DS16 got up and did school, left for work and I decided to opt for a short nap instead of exercise or packing up ebay. I guess the Lord knew I'd need that rest, as I slept for over 2 hours! Packaged ebay, mailed it on the way to take DD to DH for fencing.
Ran to pay DS16's gym tuition, then stopped at DS19's to find out what was going on w/ the apt situation as it is now the 7th, the lease was up on the 31 and they were supposed to be evicted anyway, and he has no money to pay rent, etc.

As I walked up I heard voices - male and female - coming from his bedroom window. His computer is in there, so wasn't too surprised. Knocked. Roomie answered, called DS19 and no answer, told me maybe he wasn't there. I said, no, I heard him, maybe he's sleeping. Roomie knocked again and told him his mom was here. Out comes DS19, fuming, tosses 2 papers at me, yelling about them being a violation of the restraining order the idiot girl got. Well, she was in his room, came over on her own, again..... Claims she didn't file that there was a violation, that she didn't file in the first place, doesn't know how this happened, etc.
Instead of killing her like I would have liked, I started taking down info. This is a felony charge against DS19, SHE is the one who has violated, numerous times that I've witnessed including tonight. I told her that she was violating and that she needed to leave.

Well, the other roomie comes over and starts shouting at me that this is not my home and I can't tell anyone to leave, etc. I reminded him that this apt is in DS19's name only and that technically it is NONE of their homes now as they are living there illegally. DS19 then came out, with his hideous many edged knife, screaming at me to 'get the !@##' out of there.

I left, called DH, who informed me that he 'can't deal with this', that he has a job and a career, and that as far as he's concerned we only have 2 children. That I need to forget that DS19 even exists. I told him I thought we should take the car back temporarily as if/when DS19 gets arrested, bail is $500 and we won't be paying it, or 30 days jail. They will impound the car and DS19 has no money to get it out and thus will lose it. DH won't. Says DS19 needs the car. I agree, but not when he will soon lose it. So, DH proceeds to ream me, also.

I'm at wits end. I feel like a total failure as a mom. You know, the typical, my kid's gone bad, must be my fault. I made the decision when DS19 was 3 to give up my career and be a SAHM. Homeschooled him til HS when he opted for the wrong crowd. He has always been a difficult kid - way too intelligent for his own good, but not a lick of common sense. I've tried to be there for all 3. I can count on 1 hand the number of times total they've been left with anyone but me or DH. I have no friends, no family anywhere nearby. I can't talk with DH as he's blaming everything on me as is typical. I'm always wrong, even when I'm right - but that is nothing new.

I feel as though my heart is being ripped out. I'm too beat to pray, too angry to cry. When I saw DS19 I could see (and feel) the intense anguish/desperation/anger he was feeling. Yes, he then directed it toward me, much like a caged animal - no excuse. But I feel like if we abandon him, everyone has abandoned him. I have been with this kid almost 24/7/365 for over 18 years, I can't pretend he doesn't exist. DH says we need to change all the locks and not answer the door or phone if it is DS19.

There is no phone where he lives, so when they finally pick him up, I have no way of knowing. If I go over, the idiot roomie probably won't even tell me the truth, if they even answer the door. And, if they don't impound the car, and the roomies get the keys, who knows who will have the car - which is now paid off, but we can't put into DS19's name until the title arrives.

So, I leave DS19's come home, clean up my mess from packaging ebay, eat 2 slices of turkey, throw up from nerves. DS16 comes home from gym hungry and I told him I wasn't up to fixing anything, gave him money to go get something. He brought Quiznos and said he got one for me. I took about 3 bites and lost that.

DS16 girl friend - work buddy - not dating - called and wanted him to come over and watch Last Samurai with her and her sisters. I said it was ok if he was home by 11 (gave him about a 20 min cushion on the length of the movie). In walks DH. Decided that it was not OK for DS16 to go over there as she is 18. Proceeds to rant and rave at DS16 about everything under the son (this is the reaction forever whenever DS19 does wrong, the other 2 get the wrath for it, not DS19) My typical middle child accepts it, then later asks if it is OK for Tiffany to come over here to watch it. He does not want to ask Dad. So I do. DH insists on talking to DS16. Tells him he thinks it not good to have an 18 yo female friend, then says ok for her to come over. They aren't dating. This girl is from a family that allows 'courting', no dating. DS16 and Tiffany went to Freedom Fest this weekend and her little sister had to come along. Nice, Christian family with values. DH just doesn't get it. DS19's weird girls/friends were ok, tho.

So, I can't sleep, and am still trying to finish lisiting ebay but I'm having a hard time concentrating. I'm really craving sweets, but not even that is appealing. I just now finished my 64 oz decaf tea and have managed nothing else to drink today. feel swollen and gross. It's just a good thing there's no ice cream in the house, or Krispy Kreme donuts.

Thanks for being there guys. Venting in writing is better than not at all. Thanks for caring!
 
Oh Julie! If I could be with you right now and give you the biggest hug possible i would! I am glad you felt comfortable enough to vent here and I always say, it's what we're here for!!!

Sometimes our best plans and intentions go astray, and sometimes no matter how often we reach out to someone they will swat that hand away. My younger sister had to go through a lot herself (moving away from us, drug addiction, etc.) and it took years before she finally realized that the love we offered her was unconditional but she needed to be open to accepting it. I know it is not the same with your DS19, but I do hope that some day he does realize all that you have done & were willing to do for him, and honors you for that. It sounds like right you are right about him being like a caged animal, he is nursing wounds that in all likely hood are self inflicted and instead of trying to heal he is trying to blame. You & your family do not deserve that. His choices & free will are bringing him to the place he is in now, it will have to be his choice to find a way out. Whatever you & your DH decide is best for your whole family in regards to your relationships with your DS19, you are all in my prayers and I wish you the best regardless of the path you need to take. Remember that the only thing final in this life is death, so any decisons you make can always be changed down the line with experience and reflection.

Thank you for your candor. I hope you know that it is ok if you disregard every word I have typed, as opinions are like you know whats and everyone has one! hehe! Just know that behind the words are a whole lot of caring!

I hope that you are able to find moments of peace in this time of trouble. Take care of yourself!
Mike :goodvibes
 

Oh, Julie, I am so sorry to hear that things are not well with you. :grouphug: Mike is right, sometimes no matter how hard a parent tries some children will just do what they choose to do. I always think of these children as the ones with so much independence that they have to learn things the hard way. My DSis gave her oldest every opportunity to hlep her through college and none of it was appreciated. My neice threw it all back in her mom's face after a semester and moved out. Now we don't know where she really is, but my DSis cherishes the moments that her daughter calls. She knows that there have been times when my niece was looking to move back, but she has had to take a tough stance and not allow that since she still has children at home to take care of. But it doesn't mean that she cares any less for her oldest.

I think your DS19 is going through much of the same. He thinks he knows what he needs to know to get by and doesn't see (at this time) that his poor choices have a direct impact on his current situation. My brother did the same and he is very very intelligent. There were many times that my mother didn't know where he was. No one would hear from him for 6 months at a time, BUT he always came back to either let my mom, myself, or my sister know that he was alright. He still lives life his own way, but he has learned that the family cares and that he needs to stay in touch from time to time. That may be what your DS19 will do. He will reach points in his life where he will reach out to you, but only he can determine when those points are.

I am so sorry that you have had to go through so much lately and that your DH is unsupportive. Personally, (take it for what it is worth) I don't think that you should act as if you only have two children, but you do need to shift your focus to the family that is under your roof and pray (when you're beat is when you need prayer the most) that your DS19 will find his way. For the most part, you will have to let him work things out on his own as it is the only way he will learn. You have given him the core values that he needs and in time he will fall back on them. As for the car issue, if it is in your name, including insurance, then I would take it back because it will be ultimately your car that is impounded or being driven by God know who. Does your DD19 really need a car? If he isn't working and everyone else is driving it would it matter if he didn't have it?

In the meantime, we are hear to listen whenever you need. And as Mike mentioned, you can take or leave the advice, but always know that we are thinking about you and that you are in our prayers. ::MickeyMo ::MickeyMo
 
:hug: Oh Julie, :hug:

I am so sorry that you have to go through this. :( I just want you to know that you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. :grouphug: God knows how much you are hurting. Let Him comfort you and give you strength.

If there is anything that we can do for you, please let us know.

Take care, Julie. :hug:
 
Grr...I had this whole long reply typed out and ready to post when Magellan came by and decided to pull the plug on my laptop. Mook...

Anyway, I'm glad you came here to vent and I'm really sorry you're going through this. :grouphug: Definitely sending prayers your way. For what it's worth, I think you're right about the car, especially with the likelihood of it being impounded or "appropriated" by one of his friends. Better you keep it in your possesion. I'm sorry to hear your DH is not reacting well--hopefully a few days will give him some perspective. While I agree you can't cut your son out of your life, maybe it is time to back way off and let him deal with the logical consequences of his actions. Sorry for the cliche, but it sounds like it's time for tough love.

I hope you feel better soon and can find some peace for yourself. :wizard: for you!
 
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Julie -- So sorry you are having such a tough time, sweetie. I hope your son will someday realize that everything you are trying to do for him is out of love. I can't even give you any advice. I wish I were there to give you a :hug:

Please take care of yourself and your two younger children. It is always hardest on the "good ones" (believe me, I know). I would bet they try even harder to be "good" to make up for their brother.

I wish I knew what to say to make you feel better, but just know that we are all here and we care about you very much.
Hugs,
Cam
 
Hi Julie,
I am sorry you are having to deal with all this right now. I would be a wreck too...as mothers I think we all tend to blame ourselves when we know that really isn't the case. I couldn't imagine writing him off as your DH wants to do but I think most men could easily do that...they seem to be able to turn their emotions and feelings on and off like switches.

I hope your DS will come to his senses soon and try not to beat yourself up in the meantime. Hang in there, :)
 
Today things got worse, but not unexpected. DS19 showed up about 10:30 - said he was awakened with a shotgun at his head. Apparently sheriff came in to evict. Changed the locks let them leave with the clothes on their backs. Said they cannot get any of their belongings. Odd thing is that they never posted the court eviction papers as is required by NM law, and it also states that they must be removed from 3 - 7 days from the date of the court order, which was 11 days ago. He ate a burger, scrounged for quarters to buy gas and I ended up giving him $10 and he left, having printed out all the applicable statutes. Have no idea where he is, what he is doing, when/if I will see him. No, I'm not feeling any better.

Everything I eat, I lose, but the scale has crept up 4 lbs since yesterday morning. Stress, water, etc.
 
Oh Julie, :hug:

Sweetie, I am so sorry. :( I will continue to keep you, your son, and your family in my prayers. :grouphug:

Julie, there are a lot of people here on the WISH boards who care about you and what you are going through. We are here for you whenever you need us. :grouphug: If you need to talk, please feel free to vent here or you can send me a PM. :hug:

Please try and take good care of you. I know that it might not be easy at a time like this, but please try the best you can. :hug:

Sending prayers, :wizard: , and :hug: from Ohio. Take care, Julie. :hug:
 
Julie, I'm so sorry for all you've been going thru. It sounds like a nightmare. My prayers are with you & your family.
 
I found out this morning that the sheriff actually told my DS19 wrong. Sheriff said AFTER 3 days DS could contact the apt and see if they will let him get any of his things. I researched some this morning and if he does not get everything WITHIN 3 days it belongs to the apt.

So, PLEASE pray that DS contacts me today or tomorrow at the latest. I'd at least like him to get his glasses and contact lenses so he can see to drive.

About all I can do is drive every street looking for his car as he said something about a guy living about 1/2 mile from here (ds has no sense of direction, so could be farther, but the guy lives in RR)

I just don't know where to start.
 
I'm so sorry you are going through this with your ds. I do hope that things get better. I'm also sorry your dh is being the way he is being. Not easy when they aren't supportive and like to lay blame on anyone in their path (my dad was like that when I was growing up).

Coming here to vent is probably the best thing you can do - please always feel free you can do that at any time!!!!!

HUGS
Chris
 
Thanks for all your support guys. You'll never know how much it means.

Update: DS19 came over. Apt is really being unlawful. After 27 phone calls and 2 visits they agreed to give them until 6 p.m. tonight to get stuff out, but only after DS produced the state statute that says they have 3 days and the apt threatened to call the police. DS looked at me and we both told them fine, call, here's the law you are violating. They backed down slightly so DS has my van and is headed to get a load. By law they have until 10 a.m. Sunday, but hopefully we won't have to push it.

I've had 4 slices of turkey today and wanted to stop at every fast food place imaginable while out driving this morning, but didn't. Off to try to clear a path in my house to store stuff. NOT fun, but beats the alternative.
 
Hi Julie!

Sorry to hear the drama has intensified. I do hope that your DS is able to get his stuff out quickly so there is no more trouble with the law. I am very proud of you for not hitting all the drive thrus for fast food!!

:grouphug:
Mike
 
Those fast food places were really calling my name, Mike! W/in about a 5 mile circle I passed just about every fast food you can think of and desperately wanted to pull in to each one.

I went at about 1 to see why DS19 hadn't brought a load over yet and took them some soda and water. DS was in his room methodically folding clothing and hanging clothing. NOTHING had been packed. Roomie # 1 (I call him Fat Louie - not nice, but he is like a slug - 20, no job, 2 babies under 2, 2 different moms and pays no money to either) was sitting in a recliner watching soap operas. Roomie #2 (Mike) was washing the mountain of dishes in the kitchen and in between, doing laundry and unloading a huge dvd shelf.

So, I started loading soft stuff, first DS19's expensive guitars in my bug, and made 3 trips to my house unloading in 2 hours. Amazing how much a bug will hold. In this time some stuff got boxed but nothing moved out. DS19 lived upstairs, and I can't begin to count the number of trips I made up and down. So, w/ the 4th load in my bug I went to Uhaul. Clearly, with 3 hours left, nothing out, and only my minivan, it would not all get out. Talked them into renting my a small enclosed truck (which I had to return before they opened at 6 this morning), left my loaded bug and headed to the apt. As I pulled in , DS19 was pulling out in the van w/ it only about 1/2 full to take to my house. Mike was w/ him. Fat Louie bailed and left. Mike and I made DS stop and help load the Uhaul. DH called at 4:30 wondering where I was and decided to come over. Between 4:45 and 6 we emptied the apt into the Uhaul. Most of it unboxed, but we got it all.

I called in Pizza, took DH to retrieve his motorcycle at the apt. Pizza was supposed to take 30 min. I arrived to pick up at 45 min and no pizza, waited another 30, still no pizza, finally asked again and they quickly ran back to make it. Didn't get to eat until almost 9 and was starving.

At about 3 I ran thru McD's and got each of the guys a $1 chicken sand and I got 3 chicken strips (6) That and the 1 HUGE slice of pizza - (probably 10) was all I had yesterday, and not near enough water.

DH does not see the need to get my Bug in the garage, but I won't leave it out - this is hail season in NM plus a rag top is easily tampered with. So, I've been in my garage since 6 a.m. DS19 and MIke were supposed to come over, but haven't shown yet. We need to get the wooden furniture taken inside and stuff boxed well.

Tonight is DH company picnic at the zoo. Burgers, Dogs, not sure what else. DD gets home from her choir retreat at 4:30 and this starts at 5:30.

So far today I've had kashi & yogurt (4) and 2 2pt turkey sand (4). I've got to figure out which is the lesser points, burger or dog and plan what I will eat tonight.

I'll update more later....
 
Wow Julie, what a whirlwind day!!! Hope you are gonna get some relaxation/de-stress time for you this weekend too!!

Mike :goodvibes
 
De-Stress will come eventually, but not likely this weekend, or this week.

Yesterday's 6 hours of up and down stairs moving has my ankle really hurting. I will count 3 hours as exercise. Today I started at 7 a.m. and worked in the garage until about 3, and did 9 loads of laundry (downstairs) while boxing and sorting. I'll count 2. While I did this DH played online poker ( I HATE all the Poker shows!!!!!!)

At 4:30 we left to pick DD up - the bus was late and didn't arrive til 5:15. Then off to the zoo. I had 1 hot dog(which is talking to me) w/ bun, 1 burger patty, 1/2 can of nestea, a 12 oz pop cup of popcorn and a lf ice cream sandwich. I avoided the chips, snow cones, cookies and real ice cream treats. I don't feel too bad. Walked for about an hour.

It's almost 10 p.m. and I'm bushed, but waiting for DS16 to get off work and trying to do some ebay. My house is a wreck and it isn't going to be getting done this weekend, not too likely during this week, either.

Monday I'll still be doing laundry, then DD has fencing. Tues the bug goes in early, then when DD gets home we'll get the shuttle back to the bug dealer , then the first HS fencing tournament. Wed - mail ebay, credit union, fencing, Thurs - ?? Friday another fencing tourney. All that, plus the normal stuff, and I'm doubting there will be much time to clean house.

I really need to get the carpet shampooer out - new puppy syndrome - plus all the tracking in from the garage.

Someday I'll get to catch up on journals!!

Hope everyone is having a good weekend!
 
Morning...... already?????

It's not 9 and I've done almost 4 loads of DS19's smelly stuff that I won't let in my house. It reeks of smoke, sweat, food, etc.

I have tons to do again today, but since everyone else is sleeping, there's not a lot I can get started on, so I am TRYING to catch up on a few journals. No method, I'm just starting at the top.

I'll try to post more later. Hope Sunday is going well for everyone.
 














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