Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread--Part 7

[madge]

One of her sister's was photographed at her house while visiting. It was unusual, but maybe they don't want to be a part of the show.

is that the sister that makes jewelry?

 

[MAKmom]

is that the sister that makes jewelry?

Yes I think the pictures were from Face Book at Easter.

 

[madge]

OMG I hate Jon right now. He must sit around & think of things that will crush Kate. The thought of those scum bags in her house make me ill.

really? without knowing the circumstances under which the visit took place? It may have been a Kate-approved visit for all we know.

now... with that said.... if pics of the reunion turn up in a tabloid that pays big bucks? then I'll have a completely different opinion.

 

[madge]

Yes I think the pictures were from Face Book at Easter.

ok -- the pics I saw were of Kate & her sister in Cleveland... maybe they weren't the same ones, but it sounds like it was the same sibling.

 

[redrosesix]

I don't know if Kate cut her parents out of her life, but I don't think they have a relationship. Jon himself said...maybe on LKL, but I'm not sure about that, that Kate's parents aren't in their lives. I know he also said one of Kate's sisters doesn't talk to the parents either.

I know it isn't in writing anywhere, but Kate has 3 sisters and I don't believe she has a relationship with any of them either. I think Kevin is the only one she stayed in touch with. I don't have proof of that, but WAY back, before I even found this thread, I read a blog by Kate's youngest sister, Clarissa I think, where she talked about not having a relationship with Kate or the kids. And with ALL the media attention, I think if Kate's family was around, we would have seen or heard about it by now. 2 of her sisters live nearby in PA and one lives in Toledo. I can't imagine how no family members are ever, ever even mentioned (other than Kevin) if they had any kind of relationship at some time there would have been something. Never have you heard anyone say "We are going to your aunt's house tomorrow" or "Let's make a craft for Grandma." Or "The kids had their cousins over on Saturday" nothing, ever, nada. I used to think they just didn't want to be on TV, but not to EVER be even mentioned in passing? Not to maybe go to court with Kate for support? Not to have a sister go with you to a book signing or appearance? Nope, I don't think we ever see or hear about them, because there isn't anything there to see or hear about it.

Yes, it was the Utah interview you're talking about. And ITA with you -- there is nothing to hear about.

And IMO, the only reason we're seeing Jon's family at the house now is because they are going there now. He said himself that they didn't visit before the separation (he also said it was because Kate wouldn't allow it)

It is just a check in, IMO. Outstanding issues:
Has Jon repaid the $$ required?
Has Kate provided an accounting for the $$ she withdrew?
Are they any closer to coming to an agreement through mediation?

By my reading of PA divorce law (remember I am not a lawyer) this case is by no means over and Kate may well be represented by her atty tomorrow. This hearing is pretty much peanuts.

PA divorce law puts priority on a mediated no-fault divorce re. division of assets and deciding physical and legal custody (physical and legal custody are 2 different things in PA). Priority is always given to the welfare of the children. Only if mediation totally fails (and that could take a few years because the judge could send them to counseling and back to mediation indefinitely) will it go to a full court hearing .

An educated guess -- this judge has ample reason to delay declaring the divorce final. Do not expect to see that soon. There are so many outstanding issues regarding the well-being of the children, and that filming question is still out there and the Dept of Labor investigation. He will take all this stuff into consideration and delay for a bit.

I do want him to appoint a GAL for the children. Badly. It is way past time

He might have some choice things to say about the bird-nesting agreement and Jon's behavior tomorrow, and might hand out a gag order or two, but I am not holding my breath for anything dramatic happening. At all.

Just my 2 cents.

ITA with this, but will add that I think the judge might comment on TLC's lawsuit against Jon at some point ie. whether it should be taken into consideration in any way or whether he thinks it is irrelevant to the divorce proceedings.

There also has been no mention of Kate's petition for support.

 

[redrosesix]

OMG I hate Jon right now. He must sit around & think of things that will crush Kate. The thought of those scum bags in her house make me ill.

Wow -- well I guess I know how you feel about Kevin and Jodi now.

I have to agree with Madge, though -- we don't know anything about their visit aside from the fact that the paparazzi took some pictures of them arriving and they seemed to be getting along ok.

 

[kidshop]

OMG I hate Jon right now. He must sit around & think of things that will crush Kate. The thought of those scum bags in her house make me ill.

What do you think they are doing in there? Plotting ways to make more money off of the kids? (that's a joke, although if it turns out the reunion was sold to a tabloid they all will be worse than Kate)

Kevin and Jodi were a constant in the kids lives until about a year ago. They were close, they loved each other, their kids were close. Then they disappeared. We don't know the whole story, but the kids deserve to have family members in their life. And if Kate won't allow it, then Jon should.

I don't think Kate's sister was at the house. The pictures were of Chris at the Women's show. The lady at the house over the summer was Jamie Ayers. I could be wrong, but I don't recall Kate having any family over.

 

[WaltD4Me]

Yes I think the pictures were from Face Book at Easter.

No, the Facebook Easter pictures were of her friend Jamie Ayers. She is the one who was watching the kids and got her pic snapped yelling at one of the boys.

 

[WaltD4Me]

And IMO, the only reason we're seeing Jon's family at the house now is because they are going there now. He said himself that they didn't visit before the separation (he also said it was because Kate wouldn't allow it)

Jon also said in one of the couch interviews on the show that his mom wasn't really involved with the kids because she works full time and just got re-married and was busy with her new husband.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm confused. Those two (Jodi and Kevin) were the ones that went public in their interview. What do you mean what is good for the goose etc? I don't think I have seen Kate bring anyone into the house that Jon wouldn't want there, or would upset him.

Well---they chastise Jon and KAte for their very public life and their very lack of consideration for privacy of the children and these two beatniks go on a freakin' tabloid instead of hmmmmm....the AUTHORITIES.


Don't give me crocodile tears and say it is for the children as you air private dirty laundry. PUH-LEASE!!!! (that is aimed at Jodi, noone here.)

It just irritates me to no end how noone was able to man up or woman up and report these accusations of problems with what the family was doing.

The goose---would be Jon and Kate and the topic of "privacy" and "not living a public life".

The gander---Kevin and Jodi who if they truly loved the children, would have perhaps done something to stop all this nonsense instead of adding fuel to the inferno via tabloids.


Sorry if my statement wasn't clear--but this all is just my opinion of their released tapes which I felt highly inappropriate.

 

[madge]

No, the Facebook Easter pictures were of her friend Jamie Ayers.

the facebook pictures that I saw of Kate's sister were of Kate, Jamie (?), and her sister in Cleveland. They weren't at Jon & Kate's house, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Easter. I believe this is the same sister that made the jewelry Kate wore on The View.

 

[madge]

re: pictures

there were also some pictures at the house of who we determined was one of the nanas ...the one that lived in Jon's hometown and was seen in a July 4 episode. They were at the house on a day Jon had custody and Kate was returning home.

 

[C.Ann]

I don't even care if it is a stunt! Those kids loved Jodi!

Do you think Kate would be willing to work it out with them? Maybe they would like to be in the kids lives before they are 18. Family is imporant and the only one who would make the kids choose sides would be IMO, Kate. Adults can generally work stuff like this out for the sake of the kids, so they can have as many adults who love them in their life as possible. This is about the kids and what is best for them not Kate.

Jon did not have nice things to say about Jodi either, but he seems to be able to admit when he is wrong, admit making mistakes and try to do better.

While I think it's safe to assume that Kate is/was unaware of this visit, maybe she knew. Maybe she & Kevin have cleared the air or reached an understanding that they could visit if she wasn't home.

Or maybe they didn't... and this may create more problems.

Jodi sure looked happy to be there, though... and like Kidshop, I'm glad that they're able to see the kids. I'm hesitant to go much further than that.

One thing I think is interesting ... there have been several family members at the house when Jon is staying at the house. His mother, brother, Kate's brother ... and those are just ones we know of. Whether that has always been the way and we're just being made aware of it now, I am not sure that it matters. What we're seeing is that the children do, in fact, see their extended family from time to time. And that's a good thing. I hope there are many more around that the media doesn't tell us about, as well!

I agree! If we have to find a silver lining in the cloud of this divorce, I think it can be this. It makes me so happy to hear that Madi spent a day with her grandmother (a while back) and the picture of Jodi and Kevin walking up the driveway almost got me choked up. Despite what happened, I really believe that they love the kids and have their best interests at heart, even more so than Jon and Kate (in some instances). I can just imagine how thrilled the Gosselin kids were to see their cousins, and hug their aunt and uncle.

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[TanyaLovesPooh]

OMG I hate Jon right now. He must sit around & think of things that will crush Kate. The thought of those scum bags in her house make me ill.

I don't have a very high opinion of Jodi & Kevin either. However, to the best of my knowledge they have not commented publicly in a long time. Hopefully they will continue to be quiet.

It sure looked like a photo op with the paps right there in the kids faces.

 

[LoraJ]

Add "I don't know" to your drinking game list.

 

[MAKmom]

I don't have a very high opinion of Jodi & Kevin either. However, to the best of my knowledge they have not commented publicly in a long time. Hopefully they will continue to be quiet.

It sure looked like a photo op with the paps right there in the kids faces.

They have not commented publicly because they had nothing else to sell to the tabloids. They were out of the loop & Jon is the new tabloid star now.

The day before the last court date Jon has a very public day with Micheal Lohan, now Jodi & Kevin.

I guess Balloon Boy was stealing Jon's limelight & he wanted it back.

 

[redrosesix]

the facebook pictures that I saw of Kate's sister were of Kate, Jamie (?), and her sister in Cleveland. They weren't at Jon & Kate's house, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Easter.

Yes, that's what I remember too ie. there weren't any pictures of Kate's family members at the house, just Jamie.

 

[newtodis]

What time was the hearing scheduled for this morning? What time is Kate's appearance today in CA??

 

[FergieTCat]

really? without knowing the circumstances under which the visit took place? It may have been a Kate-approved visit for all we know.

now... with that said.... if pics of the reunion turn up in a tabloid that pays big bucks? then I'll have a completely different opinion.

Don't be surprised if the tabloids start carrying stories from "unnamed sources".

I guess Kevin and Jodi needed more money.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Don't be surprised if the tabloids start carrying stories from "unnamed sources".

I guess Kevin and Jodi needed more money.

And I'm sure those stories would have something to do with Jon begin the perfect father....

Simply a hypothesis of course.


I really think they are no different than Jon and Kate.