Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread--Part 7

[C.Ann]

Or maybe neither. Maybe this is the thread we are interested in. It's a natural choice if we like the show. Wouldn't make much sense to post on a soup opera show if we don't watch the soup opera LOL. You obviously must have done searches on some of us to find that info out.

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Uh oh - that almost sounds like you're developing some sort of complex.. LOL..
I don't need to "search" - there are just some names that stick out - for one reason or another - and certain people who normally would post on threads of certain topics that don't anymore.. I don't subscribe to the "DIS Detective Club" - too busy posting on all of the other interesting threads across the DIS..

And now it's time to go to bed..

 

[DMRick]

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Uh oh - that almost sounds like you're developing some sort of complex.. LOL..
I don't need to "search" - there are just some names that stick out - for one reason or another - and certain people who normally would post on threads of certain topics that don't anymore.. I don't subscribe to the "DIS Detective Club" - too busy posting on all of the other interesting threads across the DIS..

And now it's time to go to bed..

I have no idea where anyone else on this thread posts, or where they used to regularly post, what they find interesting elsewhere, and I don't care if they never post elsewhere (which I guess I would only know if I did a search LOL). Whatever floats their boat.

 

[DMRick]

IMO, I wouldn't mind taking care of the kids if I could have the housecleaner.

Does anybody else wonder why there needs to be 2 adults there at all times? They don't have that kind of ratio even for daycare here, even for toddlers.

Maybe she's had enough broken stuff, or kids going to the emergency room, that she figured it's worth the money LOL. I agree..housekeeper..good.

 

[LoraJ]

The nanny has been there during Jon's time as well.

 

[redrosesix]

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Uh oh - that almost sounds like you're developing some sort of complex.. LOL..
I don't need to "search" - there are just some names that stick out - for one reason or another - and certain people who normally would post on threads of certain topics that don't anymore.. I don't subscribe to the "DIS Detective Club" - too busy posting on all of the other interesting threads across the DIS..

And now it's time to go to bed..

Ok, I'll admit it. I've been procrastinating on planning next year's trip -- It's stressing me out and I'm avoiding the other boards right now, because they're a constant reminder that I have a lot of work to do.

so there...and I'm also avoiding the mug hopping threads. Those are far more enjoyable when you've just gotten back from a trip.

 

[hbkfan637]

IMO, I wouldn't mind taking care of the kids if I could have the housecleaner.

Does anybody else wonder why there needs to be 2 adults there at all times? They don't have that kind of ratio even for daycare here, even for toddlers.

I can't remember Kate's answer word by word but I can understand why. She mentioned about how it wouldn't be possible for the kids to do after school sports and I took it to mean that with two adults, one can drive the kid to the activity and the other can stay home with the other kids. She also mentioned something about them coming up with wild projects or still going into the water. I can understand the need for two adults since the kids are older and they can't all be restricted to one play area anymore.

 

[MAKmom]

I can't remember Kate's answer word by word but I can understand why. She mentioned about how it wouldn't be possible for the kids to do after school sports and I took it to mean that with two adults, one can drive the kid to the activity and the other can stay home with the other kids. She also mentioned something about them coming up with wild projects or still going into the water. I can understand the need for two adults since the kids are older and they can't all be restricted to one play area anymore.

If they had 8 kids that were single births they would have older kids they could make watch the younger ones.

How would Jon ride his Big Wheels if he did not have someone to watch 8 kids for him. He also has his fence interviews to do.

They both have help & Jon has said he pays for his babysitters out of pocket.

 

[barkley]

so it's totaly inconceivable that kate (or jon) could do exactly what most if not all parents with kids in different activities do-put the other kids in the van and let them ride along while you drop off/pick up the other(s)? sure it's a hassle but it's not impossible, and it can teach your kids that there's give and take for the entire family if you're involved in an activity-your siblings have to ride along to facilitate you being in one, you have be a rider when they are in one.

wild projects or going into the water that's not safe with only parent (or sitter) home with the kids are activities that would'nt be permitted (when we lived in a home with a pool it was a rule from day one that kids were not permitted within the perimiter of the secured pool area w/o an adult, and if the available adult was'nt available to be there it was'nt an option -had the same rule with our current hot tub until the kids demonstrated they were both old enough and mature enough to be unsupervised). kids despite their age can be restricted to one or a limited play area for necessity of supervision or just by parental preference-plenty of parents do this all the time. sure, you might get arguments and complaints on the kid's part but that's part of parenting, set the rules and guidelines then reinforce, reinforce, reinforce. we like the gosselins have acreage with areas the kids like to play on, but again from day one it's been a reinforced rule that during certain times the kids are restricted to doing things inside and within certain areas-and that can get pared down and limited even further.

so if there always has to be 2 adults does that mean when there's no parent at home there's 2 sitters? we used to see jodi care for all but one kid (plus her own) alone, i seem to recall beth having all (plus her own younger ones) alone on a couple of occasion-is this some kind of inadvertant admisssion that kate does'nt feel capable of safely supervising her children alone? (man-that would be an angle for jon's camp to use if he wants the bulk of custody, he can show how previously kate was very willing and seemingly had no issues with him solely caring for the kids, then show the percentage of time she enlists childcare assistance while she's at home with the kids vs. what he uses when he's at home with them. point out that with all the issues surrounding income there could be financial reverses that cause a future inability to have paid childcare and bring up in a judge's mind who is/demonstrates the ability to provide solo supervision).


i feel sorry for these kids-it sounds like they will forever be in the care of hired help to a great extent, and i have to wonder what it does for a child (sense of security wise) to hear one's own parent say that they can't provide solo supervision/care i would think it would be rather frightening-esp. if they are also privey to the whole money arguement and kate's recent claims that because of jon's withdrawls and the filming ban the basic bills could'nt be met-which would mean the nannies and sitters would go. i just envision very little people with very big worries that children should in no way be dealing with.

 

[susykt4]

I watched and was pleasantly surprised at the lack of tears/emotion. I can't add anything anyone else hasn't already commented on, but how did I miss the part where she said she wanted to be in a film? That gave me a good giggle this morning.

I have to agree with Kate about the homework! Wow. Two kids is bad enough. I can't begin to imagine going through 8 folders every day. Especially getting 8 identical invitations to the chili supper, filling out 8 identical emergency cards... If I had to listen to six kids read the dreadful SRA books my 1st grader brings home every night I would lose my mind! Yeah, if I could score a film role I just might pay someone else to listen to my son read out loud

 

[madge]

I can't remember Kate's answer word by word but I can understand why. She mentioned about how it wouldn't be possible for the kids to do after school sports and I took it to mean that with two adults, one can drive the kid to the activity and the other can stay home with the other kids.

she'd get by. those of us with more than one child juggle schedules every day. just because her kids were born at the same time doesn't make her any different in that respect, IMO. You put everyone in the van and go. LOL.

 

[redrosesix]

so it's totaly inconceivable that kate (or jon) could do exactly what most if not all parents with kids in different activities do-put the other kids in the van and let them ride along while you drop off/pick up the other(s)? sure it's a hassle but it's not impossible, and it can teach your kids that there's give and take for the entire family if you're involved in an activity-your siblings have to ride along to facilitate you being in one, you have be a rider when they are in one.

wild projects or going into the water that's not safe with only parent (or sitter) home with the kids are activities that would'nt be permitted (when we lived in a home with a pool it was a rule from day one that kids were not permitted within the perimiter of the secured pool area w/o an adult, and if the available adult was'nt available to be there it was'nt an option -had the same rule with our current hot tub until the kids demonstrated they were both old enough and mature enough to be unsupervised). kids despite their age can be restricted to one or a limited play area for necessity of supervision or just by parental preference-plenty of parents do this all the time. sure, you might get arguments and complaints on the kid's part but that's part of parenting, set the rules and guidelines then reinforce, reinforce, reinforce. we like the gosselins have acreage with areas the kids like to play on, but again from day one it's been a reinforced rule that during certain times the kids are restricted to doing things inside and within certain areas-and that can get pared down and limited even further.

so if there always has to be 2 adults does that mean when there's no parent at home there's 2 sitters? we used to see jodi care for all but one kid (plus her own) alone, i seem to recall beth having all (plus her own younger ones) alone on a couple of occasion-is this some kind of inadvertant admisssion that kate does'nt feel capable of safely supervising her children alone? (man-that would be an angle for jon's camp to use if he wants the bulk of custody, he can show how previously kate was very willing and seemingly had no issues with him solely caring for the kids, then show the percentage of time she enlists childcare assistance while she's at home with the kids vs. what he uses when he's at home with them. point out that with all the issues surrounding income there could be financial reverses that cause a future inability to have paid childcare and bring up in a judge's mind who is/demonstrates the ability to provide solo supervision).


i feel sorry for these kids-it sounds like they will forever be in the care of hired help to a great extent, and i have to wonder what it does for a child (sense of security wise) to hear one's own parent say that they can't provide solo supervision/care i would think it would be rather frightening-esp. if they are also privey to the whole money arguement and kate's recent claims that because of jon's withdrawls and the filming ban the basic bills could'nt be met-which would mean the nannies and sitters would go. i just envision very little people with very big worries that children should in no way be dealing with.

Yes, it's hard to believe that one nanny can handle 8 kids but 1 parent can't.

BTW, here the law is that all pools must have a fence with a locked gate -- I'm sure a lot of families have one even where it isn't required. It's probably less expensive than hiring a nanny to keep the kids away from the pool -- somebody should mention this to Kate in case she wants to save some money.

If they had 8 kids that were single births they would have older kids they could make watch the younger ones.

How would Jon ride his Big Wheels if he did not have someone to watch 8 kids for him. He also has his fence interviews to do.

They both have help & Jon has said he pays for his babysitters out of pocket.

Yes, he did say that -- so that he could have sitters for while they're filming (TLC pays for the nannies so that they'll have them for filming but Kate does all of the scheduling, he said)

If they had 8 kids that were single births, I doubt any of the kids would have the same activity at the same time -- they'd all be in different age groups and/or levels. And until some of them were at least 14 there would be nobody to stay home with the younger ones. It would actually be much harder the other way around -- actually there probably wouldn't be enough time in the day to get all of them to the activities that they wanted to do.

 

[madge]

Z on TV:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/10/kate_gosselin_answers_no_quest.html#more

 

[emer95]

With regard to the Gosselin family and after school activities: they actually have it much easier than most families because they only have two age groups. If her kids go to soccer (for instance) she would only have to go to two practice times. I know families who sit on the field all weekend, watching one child play and entertaining the other 3 (or however many kids) and then rotating. I know Kate thinks she has it tough, but in so many respects, she has no idea what REAL parenting is like.

 

[MAKmom]

Yes, it's hard to believe that one nanny can handle 8 kids but 1 parent can't.

BTW, here the law is that all pools must have a fence with a locked gate -- I'm sure a lot of families have one even where it isn't required. It's probably less expensive than hiring a nanny to keep the kids away from the pool -- somebody should mention this to Kate in case she wants to save some money.



Yes, he did say that -- so that he could have sitters for while they're filming (TLC pays for the nannies so that they'll have them for filming but Kate does all of the scheduling, he said)

If they had 8 kids that were single births, I doubt any of the kids would have the same activity at the same time -- they'd all be in different age groups and/or levels. And until some of them were at least 14 there would be nobody to stay home with the younger ones. It would actually be much harder the other way around -- actually there probably wouldn't be enough time in the day to get all of them to the activities that they wanted to do.

I disagree, with single births you may have a few "Irish twins" but some of the age spread would also be 2 to 3 years. If it was 2 years they would already have a 16 year old,14,12,10... you see where I'm going. You only need to be 12 here to baby sit & to stay home alone I think it is younger.

Just being in a family never leaving the house you have help by the 5th child.

 

[madge]

Kevin and Jodi have teamed up with Gloria Allread ...

well. it looks like they're speaking about protecting children in TV. That part I can argree with.

They spoke to the reunion, but that wasn't the whole point or focus of the interview, so I took away my rolling eyes. LOL.

I think they've picked crappy timing, though. Not sure if it was their choice or CBS. I'm also not sure if this would be considered a paid interview, given the nature of what was discussed.

 

[Boxley]

Oh, Lord .... Kevin and Jodi have teamed up with Gloria Allread ...

And it begins........

 

[madge]

And it begins........

I went back and edited my post. I think the timing was bad and I'm not a fan of Gloria Allread ...but I thought overall the content of the interview was better than in the past. This wasn't a big tell all about their reunion with the kids. There weren't even any pictures from that, that I could see -- I started watching a minute into the interview. This was more about getting legislation for all children in reality TV and less about the Gosselins. Kevin & Jodi were the hook for the story, more than anything else, IMO.

they could have declined to speak, though.... might have been the better choice.

 

[Boxley]

I went back and edited my post. I think the timing was bad and I'm not a fan of Gloria Allread ...but I thought overall the content of the interview was better than in the past. This wasn't a big tell all about their reunion with the kids. There weren't even any pictures from that, that I could see -- I started watching a minute into the interview. This was more about getting legislation for all children in reality TV and less about the Gosselins. Kevin & Jodi were the hook for the story, more than anything else, IMO.

they could have declined to speak, though.... might have been the better choice.

My point in the (lol) was that what was Kevin and Jodi doing anyways. They have been barking so much about situations that they have little to do with and I have this feeling that those two have been nothing but fame hunters. I mean, Jon and Kate are bad enough but they have some stake in all this while I feel that Jodi and Kevin have...

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm going to comment on the Q&A without reading everyone's post (though one caught my eye at the tippy top about lack of tears and real emotion--so I'll end up commenting on that, though I wanted to post freely without influence--oh well. )


I thought the question selections were good. Clearly sanitized with giving us "some" more seemingly controversial questions that folks REALLY want to know--but really not all that much of scintillating information that we couldn't live without.

Don't care if Kate is ever getting married again--found that a weird question to pop in there.

Answers I found odd---Joel, clueless and "haven't we done that already". Yes, I've known some flighty kids and sometimes my kids seem that way, but I'd never compare them to a volatile situation especially a soon to be "ex". I felt that was adding fuel to the fire.

Felt she giggle a bit much last night. Felt off to me.

But on the whole I found her answers sincere. Glad she didn't refuse to answer anything or do the stupid "we'll have to wait and see" teases.

Didn't pop on here last night to see how the drinking phrases went.

Was surpised for the first time that I heard her say "they are entitled to privacy". Thought that was good.

There was one answer that seemed off and when I heard it not that it wasn't true--but that there was more info and she was being coy about the response. But I cannot for the life of me remember what it was.

Yes I do believe she still coupon clips. Lots of folks in that income bracket still do. But I doubt she gets all of her stuff on sale. A good portion maybe, but I doubt all of it is on sale. That may have been the question.

Felt she didn't elaborate well on the money for the kids. She said it was secure, but then said it "will not be touched" or something like that. "Will not" is not the same as "cannot". So while I am glad money is set aside--it "possibly" is only as secure as their parents allow it to be.


On the whole I enjoyed the Q&A.

I wasn't really expecting tears or emotion, the questions weren't really of that nature.

Next week though--I would expect something. I would not expect a stoic "look at me now" Kate.

I didn't feel she was "showy" today either. Just answering some basic questions. For some reason, I'm glad when she said that she doesn't let the rumors and crap annoy her and that she can laugh "at" herself.

I could not be that strong.

Her career choice is interesting and I am sure that it is being worked on as we speak.

Okay--that's my random babble.

I am sure the hate sites are pointing out how stuff is "proven" to be false--however, Kate said few things that could be "proven".

And yes, many of us moms deal without help on a regular basis--but I'm not going to question Kate's opinoin that she feels safe with 2 adults in the house to watch her young children. It just isn't something you can prove to not be true based on our own experiences. If she feels she needs the help, who am I to question that?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Kevin and Jodi have teamed up with Gloria Allread ...

well. it looks like they're speaking about protecting children in TV. That part I can argree with.

They spoke to the reunion, but that wasn't the whole point or focus of the interview, so I took away my rolling eyes. LOL.

I think they've picked crappy timing, though. Not sure if it was their choice or CBS. I'm also not sure if this would be considered a paid interview, given the nature of what was discussed.

I don't know who Gloria Allread is--but I don't agree that this is the time for Kevin and Jodi to be profiting off of the children which really waters down any message they have for protecting children.