Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

[TeresaNJ]

Wow, judge much? I can't get over how much you guys really intensely dislike Kate. You are sure by the body language that she is having an affair, you can tell by her child's eyes how much the paps bother her, and even though the other family has stated they have help, because it's not a reality show, you feel they are supporting their children all on their own, unlike Kate and Jon , who you give zero credit to for what sweet kids they have and how hard they have worked (J & K), you assume she doesn't want custody of her children, but just wants to control Jon, and because she talked to the father of her children in his car you assume it was all for show.

I've been on a lot of boards, and I'm on three for J & K, but this one is so intense with the dislike, I just can't believe it. I'm glad you guys haven't found anything to judge me on. There is absolutely nothing Kate could ever do that would please you.

The fun of this board has sure changed in the last month or so...especially since some who have enjoyed the show have moved on and away from this thread . It's just becoming so much about judging, and intesne dislike..and very little of the judging is ever good. What happened to just reporting on what is going on? Why so very much judging and assuming? As I've said before, I truly don't understand why some of you follow this and look at the pictures and the rag mags, etc. If I hated something as much as some hate this show and these people, I would never want to keep up with them.

You're not alone in your assessment of the tone of this thread, DMRick. I occasionally read it, but the hatred wears thin. I totally agree with everything you've said. It seems the trend for some in this country is to bash and hate anyone who appears to be successful and has more than you do, and to relish in their downfall. What's the saying, "misery loves company".

 

[mousey]

I, for one will absolutely judge people who I believe are exploiting their kids! These people are not my neighbors, they put themselves on TV and in magazines EVERY WEEK. Have you ever heard of the 'other family' before? I haven't! They are not getting the same level of help as J&K did. How can you even compare that!?

What happened to the No Bash thread? You keep up here instead, where we do try to talk about the reality we see. And it's not all flowers and rainbows. Unfortunate for the kids, but true.

If Kate took her kids off TV and began to shield them from paparazzi even a little bit, THAT would please me and I would never say another word about her. She could get a job on the View for all I care, just no more filming of the kids. (unless they of course become paid actors).

I TOTALLY AGREE!!! Nobody is forcing them to do this show. Jon & Kate are both nobody's who became somebody's because of exploiting their kids on TV. I feel sorry for the kids--not for their idiot parents.
Kudos to that FL family that chose not to exploit their kids. Can you believe they are making it on their own!!! Getting a real job would be beneath Jon & Kate.

 

[LoraJ]

You're not alone in your assessment of the tone of this thread, DMRick. I occasionally read it, but the hatred wears thin. I totally agree with everything you've said. It seems the trend for some in this country is to bash and hate anyone who appears to be successful and has more than you do, and to relish in their downfall. What's the saying, "misery loves company".

Too true!

 

[madge]

Should they drive them to school and back everyday?

I thought they did that with the the sextuplets last year... it was mentioned in an episode how long the drive is, etc? I'm pretty sure they're attending the same school this year.

I'm glad they're riding the bus. It's a normal thing to do.

 

[mousey]

I think Kate should demand that the bus pick the kids up at their house. After all she is a celebrity! All this excitement for Jr. King., can you imagine when they go to regular King.?

 

[Buckalew11]

Well, hopefully the paps will not greet them at the busstop every morning. Hopefully, it was a first day of school thing and they will be left alone.

I could not get the tups school video to work so I can say whether she was strutting or walking, lol. I think it is a matter of if you like her OK, she was walking. If you can't stand her, she was strutting. lol And that's the way everything is in Kateworld.

 

[madge]

a little publicity funny ... I saw the new People Magazine at Target yesterday....they edited out an earring. Kate's only wearing one. I guess the editors are cranking this stuff out so fast they didn't even notice.

 

[redrosesix]

Well, hopefully the paps will not greet them at the busstop every morning. Hopefully, it was a first day of school thing and they will be left alone.

I could not get the tups school video to work so I can say whether she was strutting or walking, lol. I think it is a matter of if you like her OK, she was walking. If you can't stand her, she was strutting. lol And that's the way everything is in Kateworld.

An excellent point, and this would equally apply to Jon, or just about anybody -- I'm thinking of the boys in DD's class in particular.

I wouldn't have called it a strut, but she certainly didn't look happy. The whole situation, like the previous day, just seemed weird -- like she didn't practice it and tried to wing it (and performed badly) or the PR people had it worked out in advance but really didn't take everything into consideration. IMO, the words she said to Jon really threw me the most -- was it really necessary for her to talk to him like that while the cameras were there? She could easily have just gotten into her truck, as it looked like she was originally planning to. Just weird, that's all.

JMHO, but I think they should drive the kids. I would be horrified to find out my kid was attending school with these kids and they or I might inadvertantly be filmed, or more importantly, would have to start the school day in that type of chaos. The Gosselins are not going to score many brownie points with the other parents if this keeps up (even if it's just on the days following a particularly nasty story) and in the end it's the kids who will suffer for this. The 8 may miss out on the school bus ride, etc. that are a normal part of school, but their family makes a living from the media -- things are going to have to be different for them until they're living a normal life. I think it's more important to shield the kids who are not part of this media circus.

 

[MM27]

a little publicity funny ... I saw the new People Magazine at Target yesterday....they edited out an earring. Kate's only wearing one. I guess the editors are cranking this stuff out so fast they didn't even notice.

It's not really edited out. If you look closely, the earring is there, but with the white background and the fact that the earrings are silver it looks at first glance like it's missing. It was probably a combination of lighting, background, the angle the earring was positioned and the color of the earring.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

Wow, judge much? I can't get over how much you guys really intensely dislike Kate. You are sure by the body language that she is having an affair, you can tell by her child's eyes how much the paps bother her, and even though the other family has stated they have help, because it's not a reality show, you feel they are supporting their children all on their own, unlike Kate and Jon , who you give zero credit to for what sweet kids they have and how hard they have worked (J & K), you assume she doesn't want custody of her children, but just wants to control Jon, and because she talked to the father of her children in his car you assume it was all for show.

I've been on a lot of boards, and I'm on three for J & K, but this one is so intense with the dislike, I just can't believe it. I'm glad you guys haven't found anything to judge me on. There is absolutely nothing Kate could ever do that would please you.

The fun of this board has sure changed in the last month or so...especially since some who have enjoyed the show have moved on and away from this thread . It's just becoming so much about judging, and intesne dislike..and very little of the judging is ever good. What happened to just reporting on what is going on? Why so very much judging and assuming? As I've said before, I truly don't understand why some of you follow this and look at the pictures and the rag mags, etc. If I hated something as much as some hate this show and these people, I would never want to keep up with them.

It does get very old.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

And if Kate did smile, I bet some one will say that she's smiling because she's enjoying the attention.

You got it.

 

[daughtersrus]

IMO, the paps were probably looking for something between Kate and Jon. They didn't get much, so maybe the interest of the kids getting on the bus will be done now. Should they drive them to school and back everyday? Who knows...maybe they should hire someone to come in and teach them, so they didn't have to leave their house. IMO I can't see that the interest on watching kids get on the bus will continue, unless, of course the rag mags see our interest and continue to pay for the pictures. Any picture taken, is only because a rag mag will pay for it, and they only pay for it, if they think the public wants to see it.

As you said, they were probably looking for something between Jon and Kate. My guess is that J & K were both there because it was the first and and that in the future only one of the parents will be bringing the children to the bus stop. So, if they had taken them directly to the school for the first day, the paps wouldn't have been allowed to shoot on school property and much of this could have been avoided.

I doubt that they will both be at the bus stop each morning so if they're looking for a conflict between J & K, they won't find one there.

 

[mousey]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The nice thing about a discussion board is all angles are discussed. That is probably the reason the "No bash Gosselin" thread disappeared. If you said anything against J & K your a bad person and your wrong or prove it!
I enjoy reading the latest news and gossip on this thread. A lot of stuff on here is repeated and repeated and repeated. The only thing that has changed on this thread in the last month is that it continues to grow and more opinions are coming out--which is great. Not everyone agrees and there is nothing wrong with that. Really---its a discussion!!!!

 

[redrosesix]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The nice thing about a discussion board is all angles are discussed. That is probably the reason the "No bash Gosselin" thread disappeared. If you said anything against J & K your a bad person and your wrong or prove it!
I enjoy reading the latest news and gossip on this thread. A lot of stuff on here is repeated and repeated and repeated. The only thing that has changed on this thread in the last month is that it continues to grow and more opinions are coming out--which is great. Not everyone agrees and there is nothing wrong with that. Really---its a discussion!!!!

ITA! I enjoy this thread far more than I ever would a TV show because of the discussion -- this is the only place we could have 4 pages of discussion re taking a school bus, which is interesting for me to read because my DD walks to school. Ditto for the rules re kids starting school -- I guess until you get into a discussion about some topics, you'd assume the rules are pretty much the same everywhere (but they really are very different)

I often have people disagree with my opinions, especially since I'm not a Kate-defender. But other people's responses make me think about my own more. They may not sway me to their side, but it does give me pause to reconsider my own views. And since we are discussing a show about a family (although not a normal family) I think it's great for us parents to have a place to discuss parenting issues. And anytime we can sit back and consider our own behaviour towards our kids, that's a good thing.

Sooo...back to the custody battle. Anybody have any thoughts on this?

 

[DMRick]

I'm here because I do like talking about the kids, and what all they are doing on the show and off. I like when people post facts, and I also enjoy all the different places they post to see what is going on off the show.

I may soon be another one that doesn't post here. The hate makes me very uncomfortable. This didn't use to have the tone and hate it does now, which is really just from a few people. There are still people on this thread who want the show to continue but, there are also people on this thread who don't, but they don't show such hatred for J & K...they discuss what has happened, and what they feel about this and that, and give their opnion. They don't state their opinion as facts.

It doesn't have to be all flowers and rainbows..it never has been. But the hatred is really hard to take all the time, and it makes me feel bad that so many have left, or just won't post anymore because of it.

I, for one will absolutely judge people who I believe are exploiting their kids! These people are not my neighbors, they put themselves on TV and in magazines EVERY WEEK. Have you ever heard of the 'other family' before? I haven't! They are not getting the same level of help as J&K did. How can you even compare that!?

What happened to the No Bash thread? You keep up here instead, where we do try to talk about the reality we see. And it's not all flowers and rainbows. Unfortunate for the kids, but true.

If Kate took her kids off TV and began to shield them from paparazzi even a little bit, THAT would please me and I would never say another word about her. She could get a job on the View for all I care, just no more filming of the kids. (unless they of course become paid actors).

 

[DMRick]

I thought they did that with the the sextuplets last year... it was mentioned in an episode how long the drive is, etc? I'm pretty sure they're attending the same school this year.

I'm glad they're riding the bus. It's a normal thing to do.

On another thread it was said that they coldn't take the bus while in pre-k..not until Kindergarten. I thought she said the bus is paid for by the public school system and they don't transport until Kindergarten.

 

[mrsksomeday]

ITA! I enjoy this thread far more than I ever would a TV show because of the discussion -- this is the only place we could have 4 pages of discussion re taking a school bus, which is interesting for me to read because my DD walks to school. Ditto for the rules re kids starting school -- I guess until you get into a discussion about some topics, you'd assume the rules are pretty much the same everywhere (but they really are very different)

I often have people disagree with my opinions, especially since I'm not a Kate-defender. But other people's responses make me think about my own more. They may not sway me to their side, but it does give me pause to reconsider my own views. And since we are discussing a show about a family (although not a normal family) I think it's great for us parents to have a place to discuss parenting issues. And anytime we can sit back and consider our own behaviour towards our kids, that's a good thing.

Sooo...back to the custody battle. Anybody have any thoughts on this?

Great post!

ETA: I don't see hate on this thread, I see people with various strong opinions and as it is a message board the posters are free to post their thoughts and opinions. People are respectful to each other as far as I can tell.

 

[DMRick]

I often have people disagree with my opinions, especially since I'm not a Kate-defender.

There are a lot of people who are not Kate Defenders (Madge comes to mind ). But some people give opinions, some post facts, and some actually seem to attack absolutley everything Kate does and much of the time, it's given as fact, when it's really just an opinion. And sometimes, like when someone said they could tell by the body language she is having an affair, it just sounds like someone is trying to make Kate out to be a bad person, without any proof (although if Steve were divorced, I wouldn't blame Kate for considering him as her next partner lol). Also, when things are said like, 'anyone who believes what these parents are doing are fools' (paraphrase, because I'm too lazy to go back and see the exact words on a few posts), it becomes personal to other posters. I think that is one of the biggest differences..the attack mode some seem to always be in. It's making it hard to read this thread.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

There have been people all along on this thread that don't care for Kate at all same with Jon. Varying opinions keep things refreshing, if we all felt the same this thread would be boring.

However, some have gotten quite abrasive or beyond harsh with their dislike. Attacking was a great way to put it, DMRick. It just tends to make this thread more of a chore than fun.

 

[jpaxton1118]

I'm here because I do like talking about the kids, and what all they are doing on the show and off. I like when people post facts, and I also enjoy all the different places they post to see what is going on off the show.

I may soon be another one that doesn't post here. The hate makes me very uncomfortable. This didn't use to have the tone and hate it does now, which is really just from a few people. There are still people on this thread who want the show to continue but, there are also people on this thread who don't, but they don't show such hatred for J & K...they discuss what has happened, and what they feel about this and that, and give their opnion. They don't state their opinion as facts.

It doesn't have to be all flowers and rainbows..it never has been. But the hatred is really hard to take all the time, and it makes me feel bad that so many have left, or just won't post anymore because of it.

You know, I have followed this thread for a long time, and I have always been sad by the way things have turned out. I have never hated any of them or any of that, I have just disapproved of the things they have done.

With that said, I will say that I have started to actually hate them and I don't like that. I am not that kind of person. It really started when Kate did the interview on the Today show and started talking about the things the kids were saying and now she is talking about Jon. Her kids will one day see these interviews and they will hear what she is saying about him.

I guess I don't hold Jon to as high a standard as I do Kate and maybe that is because I am a mom and I identify with the mom role. Jon is acting like a Jerk and yes it is going to effect his kids but Kate is the mother and she should be protecting them and I just don't see her doing that. It has made me really not like her, it has actually turned into disgust for her. And I can honstly say I have never felt that way about someone on tv. I guess the difference is, she is a mom and in my opinion she is not protecting her children from all the stuff that is going on. When parents divorce, the kids do not need to know all of the details and all of the drama, they should just know that both their parents love them no matter what and that should be it. You can't tell me that Maddy and Cara are not hearing about this at school, I don't care where they are going. I went to a small private school my whole life and let me tell you, we knew everyone's business, I could not have imagined if it had been on tv what all the talk would have been.

I have had to step away everyonce in a while from this board because of the anger that it has brought me. I don't like it, especially for people I don't know. And it bothers me when people defend her. I just can't understand. I don't think everything she does is wrong. I don't care how she dresses or her silly hair. None of that bothers me, what gets me is her "I will not lay down and die' "I can not go back only forward" junk that keeps coming out of her mouth. She needs to realize this is not about just her. What about those kids. do they get to decide if they want to move forward with the show.

Once again this is just the way I feel and I know that not everyone agrees with me and that is fine, that is what makes the world go around.