Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

[mrsksomeday]

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So Kate won't take his calls, ...from what was said in the first show this season, Jon wouldn't talk to her either...they are both guilty of acting like 5 year olds.


JMO....I don't know that the kids will 100 % for sure need therapy due to this. Kids got through nasty divorces everyday in this world and don't need therapy.

When I was nine my parents had a nasty divorce and I was in counseling thank goodness. Jon and Kate are way beyond nasty at this point and is only going to get worse.

My opinion, I think the kids need someone neutral to get their feelings out to. Both Kate and Jon have said the kids have called them when the other parent has them to express issues that are going on. A counselor can be someone they can talk to, get the feelings out without worrying that they are going to hurt either parent.

I think it would be better to get them in counseling now rather than seeing them in rehab or a psych ward when they get older.

 

[kidshop]

I think you are over reacting.


I don't think it will be a problem. Most kids will think it is so cool they are famous. They are going to be hanging around with other well to do kids. I think if Kates shows pan out they will move to NY or LA.

This divorce is only a few months old & will be forgotten soon.

Really? It's cool to have your mom go on the Today show and wail she might not be able to feed you and she will have to work at McD's? And then say your dad stole all your money and your life?

Being famous must be awesome!

 

[redrosesix]

Okay, so from the sound of it we really don't know this as fact. I wish we had the link I would love to know where this came from but understand why you don't have it. There is so much to all of this is does make one dizzy. And most of what we know....we don't know. Ya know?

Absolutely. I see a man with no direction, an inability to make decisions. So he is following people that are only going to hurt him.

He should be following US. In fact, they both should.

As for the money that Kate took, she has said repeatedly today that she spent her half of the $50,000 on bills (so how could she put it back?) Anyways, all of this money stuff is supposed to be under the jurisdiction of the arbitrator -- it's part of the divorce and Kate purposely chose to file in a county where the records of the divorce proceedings are sealed. So, really we shouldn't have been told about any of this, not by Kate, her lawyer, Jon or his lawyer.

I'm waiting for the arbitrator's report.

 

[mousey]

Really? It's cool to have your mom go on the Today show and wail she might not be able to feed you and she will have to work at McD's? And then say your dad stole all your money and your life?

Being famous must be awesome!

My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!

 

[redrosesix]

I thought they were suppose to be divorced the last week in September, but didn't Jon put a stop to it, to delay it another 90 days?

He asked for that -- as far as I know there hasn't been a decision made yet, but I think that one required Kate's consent and her lawyer said on LKL that they want to keep to the original date (which I think was pushed back for some other reason -- was it because the arbitrator wasn't able to file their report? I can't remember)

 

[Nancy]

When I was nine my parents had a nasty divorce and I was in counseling thank goodness. Jon and Kate are way beyond nasty at this point and is only going to get worse.

My opinion, I think the kids need someone neutral to get their feelings out to. Both Kate and Jon have said the kids have called them when the other parent has them to express issues that are going on. A counselor can be someone they can talk to, get the feelings out without worrying that they are going to hurt either parent.

I think it would be better to get them in counseling now rather than seeing them in rehab or a psych ward when they get older.

I never said they wouldn't need counseling..I just said it wasn't a given. I know people that had parents go through very nasty divorces that didn't go into therapy and they are doing fine. I also know people that should go into it. Everyone is different. My daughters best friend's parents split up when she was 17 and she became suicidal...and it wasn't even a nasty divorce. She is now almost 20 and is still in therapy and refuses to talk to her mom.

Basically we don't know how this is effecting the kids, if they need it I hope they get it but right now we just don't know if they will need it. And maybe some of them will need it and the others won't...again who knows.

 

[Nancy]

Really? It's cool to have your mom go on the Today show and wail she might not be able to feed you and she will have to work at McD's? And then say your dad stole all your money and your life?

Being famous must be awesome!

I think it was meant that kids in school would think it was cool that the kids are on TV...

my opinion is that 5-10 year olds shouldn't be watching the shows that Jon and Kate go on and know all about their lives so they wouldn't know that either parent has been on trashing the other.

 

[WaltD4Me]

I thought they were suppose to be divorced the last week in September, but didn't Jon put a stop to it, to delay it another 90 days?

I still don't understand why Jon wants the 90 delay. I know why he says he wants it, but it doesn't make sense to me. How is delaying this mess going to make things any better between them? Anyone think there is more to it than just Jon wanting them to be friends?

 

[DreaGirl]

I wonder how many new episodes they have ready to go. Isn't tonight a re-run when Beth organized the house?

I just wonder how many new ones they'll have before Jon stopped the filming.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I wonder how many new episodes they have ready to go. Isn't tonight a re-run when Beth organized the house?

I just wonder how many new ones they'll have before Jon stopped the filming.

I was flipping through tonight (during a commercial break on DWTS) and it wasn't the one with Beth organizing. This one was when they were already in the new house and the basement (or garage?) was full of boxes. So Kate called in a professional organizer to fix it. I didn't watch more than about 3 minutes so I have no idea what happened after that. But it certainly wasn't Beth (who I love!).

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I wonder how many new episodes they have ready to go. Isn't tonight a re-run when Beth organized the house?

I just wonder how many new ones they'll have before Jon stopped the filming.

No, tonight is a new episode about organization. I looked the other day and the next 2 weeks are also new episodes. Beyond that was not listed.

 

[Nancy]

I still don't understand why Jon wants the 90 delay. I know why he says he wants it, but it doesn't make sense to me. How is delaying this mess going to make things any better between them? Anyone think there is more to it than just Jon wanting them to be friends?

Yeah, I think this is Jon being a jerk and thinking he is getting back at her. I don't think he wants to be friends at all.

 

[DreaGirl]

I was flipping through tonight (during a commercial break on DWTS) and it wasn't the one with Beth organizing. This one was when they were already in the new house and the basement (or garage?) was full of boxes. So Kate called in a professional organizer to fix it. I didn't watch more than about 3 minutes so I have no idea what happened after that. But it certainly wasn't Beth (who I love!).

No, tonight is a new episode about organization. I looked the other day and the next 2 are also new episodes. Beyond that was not listed.

Oh, okay. I thought someone said it was a rerun of organization. Just curious if Jon was in this one at all...

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Jon's interview with Mary Hart tonight:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...ad-guy-here-im-one-trying-protect-my-children

VIDEO: Jon Gosselin Claims "I'm Not The Bad Guy Here, I'm The One Trying To Protect My Children"VIDEO: Jon Gosselin Claims "I'm Not The Bad Guy Here, I'm The One Trying To Protect My Children"
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In a tense interview with ET's Mary Hart on Monday Jon and Kate Plus 8 star Jon Gosselin was grilled about his recent actions, including attempting to shut down the hit show and allegedly wiping out the family's bank account.

When Hart asked Gosselin if he had left his family "without the ability to pay for the roof over their head and or to put food on the table", a visibly agitated Jon shot back with a denial, claiming he pays $7,500 a month for "the kids, utilities, two mortgages and everything else that needs to be paid."

When asked if he was concerned at all that he was not going to be as sympathetic as Kate and that he's not going to win, an adamant Jon replied that "right now my kids are coming off the TV."

He went on to say, "I'm not the bad guy here - I'm the one trying to protect my children, that's called being a parent, protecting my children. I need to pull them off the television so we can work this out."

Going on to explain, "If you can fix the relationship everything else will come. You wont have to worry about anything else."

Jon did admit that he has made mistakes though saying, "I need to apologize to the public as well as to Kate and my kids."

Jon, however, refused to admit to the gravity of his actions, claiming "it's just blown out of proportion."

 

[kidshop]

It seems Kate kept all the money from the book, but Jon's name was on that too, as well as Beth. And he pays her 7500 a month?!

I'm off to try to find links for the Insider and ET!

 

[redrosesix]

I still don't understand why Jon wants the 90 delay. I know why he says he wants it, but it doesn't make sense to me. How is delaying this mess going to make things any better between them? Anyone think there is more to it than just Jon wanting them to be friends?

Ok, let's take a hypothetical divorcing couple. If the 2 parents think they can work out custody issues, child support, etc. on their own, they often delay the divorce proceedings where I live in order to consult with each other and come to some agreements before heading into divorce court. The judge usually rubber stamps these agreements, then makes decisions on anything they could not come to agreement on. It saves both sides a lot of money in court costs and lawyers fees and is usually a better arrangement ie. more in line with the couple's unique situation than something assigned to them by a judge eg. the dad might agree to attend all hockey games while the mom might agree to attend all ballet lessons.

Otherwise, you get the "I'm a better parent"..."no, I'm a better parent" type of divorce proceedings, where testimony is required, as well as witnesses (usually family, babysitters, the kids) and evidence, unless both parents coincidentally want the exact same arrangement. The judge then has to consider all of this against the amount of custody and visitation that each parent has asked for, then assigns child support payments based on how much time the kids will be spending with each parent, etc. The judge also decides disposition of the assets at this point -- where I live it doesn't matter how much custody of the kids you get, you only get half of the assets (so family homes are often liquidated to divide them). But in some other places, the disposition of assets is done according to the amount of custody time each parent has.

Back to Jon and Kate: I'm having a hard time applying this second scenario to Jon and Kate's situation because IMO it all gets tied into the show in so many ways -- I think the judge will see it that way too, and their rulings on a lot of matters is going to depend on how they feel about the kids being on the show. This is especially true now that Jon is no longer affiliated with the show. It's highly unlikely that the judge is going to tell Jon that he can have custody of the kids on certain days so long as TLC has not planned an event that the children must attend, or that Kate should get full custody so that the kids can continue doing the show without it cutting into their schoolwork too much. KWIM?

 

[redrosesix]

my opinion is that 5-10 year olds shouldn't be watching the shows that Jon and Kate go on and know all about their lives so they wouldn't know that either parent has been on trashing the other.

Now...but these links will be on the internet FOREVER.

 

[mrsksomeday]

He went on to say, "I'm not the bad guy here - I'm the one trying to protect my children, that's called being a parent, protecting my children. I need to pull them off the television so we can work this out."

Going on to explain, "If you can fix the relationship everything else will come. You wont have to worry about anything else."

WHAT? That statement makes my head want to explode. There is no relationship, they have both screwed it up so badly they can't even talk on the phone to one another.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Here's the actual ET! video link with Mary Hart's interview with Jon:

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/79399/index.html

 

[redrosesix]

Here's the actual ET! video link with Mary Hart's interview with Jon:

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/79399/index.html

Yeah, I can see now why a previous poster said he seemed angry during this interview.

Does anybody think that Kate and TLC thought that Jon's interviews for ET and The Insider that were taped last week (about why he wanted the kids off the show) would have just been trashed and not redone? That they would have instead gone with Kate's version of the money story?