Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[talulabelle]

I said a long time ago that I was done with this thread.....curiosity killed the cat.
Anyway, about the water. I believe Kate was doing live interviews, which means you can't say give me a minute. She didn't deny the child water, she said when they were finished. The interview probably lasted all of 5 minutes. Add me to the list of terrible mothers as I have denied my children their requests many, many times. I don't think the clip showed Kate in the best light. Yes, she drank the water and didn't share, yes, she drank the water without giving it the child first. However, be honest, if you have more than 1 child you know what would happen. As soon as you give to one, the others want to, even if they haven't asked. A lot of time would have been needed to give 8 kids a drink, and as I said, there is no "just a minute" in live tv.

In my opinion, everyone needs to relax. The child wasn't in a hot car or left outside, she certainly wasn't dehydrated. Was she thirsty, tired, bored, done with it all, miserable.....yes, but her mother didn't deny her anything, she was asked to wait. Because Kate took the drink, she looks bad. I don't know about anyone else, but when I speak publicly, I need a drink of water. Also, Kate did try to give the kid water, someone off camera said there was no time.

I agree that it would be much less of a deal if Kate didn't take a drink of water. There are many times my kids ask for a drink or something and I am on the highway and they just have to wait. But, she DID take a drink of water. Not only did she drink the water, but she had time to ask for the water, open the water, drink a long refreshing sip from the water. put the cap on the water, and place the water behind her chair all while her thristy child who had been asking for water since way before Kate decided she was thirsty herself sat and watched and cried. This makes Kate sick in the head. If the kid had to wait because she was afraid all the kids would want a drink, than Kate should have waited.

 

[momrek06]

I'm with you on that, the paps are stalking. Where is Jon btw, how come no pictures of him (anywhere) have surfaced? I hope he hasn't had an unfortunate accident.

The child is 5, and whistles are irresistible fun to a kid and she is outside where it would be appropriate to blow a whistle. Kate could move somewhere other than where kids are playing to speak on the phone or wait until later.

As with the water, it's not about the spanking, it's about the appropriate response to oneof her children and the complete lack of situational awareness that Kate demonstrates.

ITA!!!! Isn't LOUD whistle blowing for the OUTSIDE...sheesh, Kate on the phone should have stepped inside the house OR shut the phone off and play with the kiddos!

YA, and where is Daddy Jon? The paps seemed to be all over Kate and the kiddos but where is Jon Boy????

 

[rileyroosmom]

I really must step away from this thread. I have never heard of so many "perfect" parents in my life! All I can read is "I would NEVER deny my thirsty child", "a whistle is fun outside toy, put down the phone and play with your kids" Wow! I should meet Kate, because I too am an awful mother. Have I spanked my kids, you bet. Have I sat on the phone with a friend and told my kids to stop doing something, you bet. Have I drank/ate something without sharing with my kid, you bet. Must be so nice to sit and judge someone, who you don't know, so harshly. You all bash Kate, calling her all types of names and put out all types of accusations and sleep well at night? She is judged on her parenting style, fashion style, hair style, pronunciation of words, vacations, pulling kids out of school (which so many of you all do for your Disney vacations), it goes on and on. This is what's wrong with our world. What ever happened to kindness, good will towards others? Don't judge someone until you've walked in their shoes. None of you have a CLUE as to who the Gosselin's are. You know what a tv show wants you to know and pictures the papparazzi show. That is nothing. Must be so nice to be as perfect as all of you claim to be. I can't hold a candle to any of you.

 

[momrek06]

I really must step away from this thread. I have never heard of so many "perfect" parents in my life! All I can read is "I would NEVER deny my thirsty child", "a whistle is fun outside toy, put down the phone and play with your kids" Wow! I should meet Kate, because I too am an awful mother. Have I spanked my kids, you bet. Have I sat on the phone with a friend and told my kids to stop doing something, you bet. Have I drank/ate something without sharing with my kid, you bet. Must be so nice to sit and judge someone, who you don't know, so harshly. You all bash Kate, calling her all types of names and put out all types of accusations and sleep well at night? She is judged on her parenting style, fashion style, hair style, pronunciation of words, vacations, pulling kids out of school (which so many of you all do for your Disney vacations), it goes on and on. This is what's wrong with our world. What ever happened to kindness, good will towards others? Don't judge someone until you've walked in their shoes. None of you have a CLUE as to who the Gosselin's are. You know what a tv show wants you to know and pictures the papparazzi show. That is nothing. Must be so nice to be as perfect as all of you claim to be. I can't hold a candle to any of you.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2206383

 

[mrsksomeday]

You all bash Kate, calling her all types of names and put out all types of accusations and sleep well at night?

I have never bashed her or called her names, you shouldn't lump everyone into your broad statement of non fact. I am glad there is a love fest thread for Kate, go have fun at it.

 

[Maggimus]

I have never bashed her or called her names, you shouldn't lump everyone into your broad statement of non fact. I am glad there is a love fest thread for Kate, go have fun at it.

Whoa, Nelly. In that person's defense- I think that was a general you... and didnt necessarily mean every person. I think the people who that was aimed toward know if it was directed toward them. Not necessarily EVERY participant in this thread.

 

[mrsksomeday]

She said "you all" to me all means everyone. She could have said "many people" "a lot of you" but she said "all" so that is how I took it. I just wanted to state that I haven't bashed anyone.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I really must step away from this thread. I have never heard of so many "perfect" parents in my life! All I can read is "I would NEVER deny my thirsty child", "a whistle is fun outside toy, put down the phone and play with your kids" Wow! I should meet Kate, because I too am an awful mother. Have I spanked my kids, you bet. Have I sat on the phone with a friend and told my kids to stop doing something, you bet. Have I drank/ate something without sharing with my kid, you bet. Must be so nice to sit and judge someone, who you don't know, so harshly. You all bash Kate, calling her all types of names and put out all types of accusations and sleep well at night? She is judged on her parenting style, fashion style, hair style, pronunciation of words, vacations, pulling kids out of school (which so many of you all do for your Disney vacations), it goes on and on. This is what's wrong with our world. What ever happened to kindness, good will towards others? Don't judge someone until you've walked in their shoes. None of you have a CLUE as to who the Gosselin's are. You know what a tv show wants you to know and pictures the papparazzi show. That is nothing. Must be so nice to be as perfect as all of you claim to be. I can't hold a candle to any of you.

Well, this is a discussion thread. If you've read any of it you'll see there are many people here who defend Kate and question the so-called Kate bashers. I think it provides balance and makes for a lively discussion here. Ladies, don't we have a good time?

Aren't you judging those here (whom you don't know) that you claim are judging Kate? So offering your opinion on J&K is not allowed then, or only if you think Kate is a perfect Mother and wife? We all have differing views regarding J&K and the life they've chosen for themselves and their kids. A lot has happened with their family of late, as I'm sure you've seen in the news.

Remember too that J&K have made the deliberate, conscious decision to continue with the show and this lifestyle that is opening them up to criticism. If you're going to live your life under the reality TV microscope then people will be critical. Some of it is valid, some of it is not. Kate says that their show is the 'realest reality show' out there and she sure doesn't seem to shrink back from criticism or care about what other people think of her. To quote a Seinfeld episode...'She's out there and she's loving it!' And for the record I am by no means a perfect parent and there have been several posters here on this thread who've shared their not-so-perfect moments. As a matter of fact, I can recall a time when I lost it in ESPN Zone.

 

[rileyroosmom]

Do you really believe I meant you? Sorry if I offended you, I meant a general you.....another reason I dislike this thread.

 

[talulabelle]

I really must step away from this thread. I have never heard of so many "perfect" parents in my life! All I can read is "I would NEVER deny my thirsty child", "a whistle is fun outside toy, put down the phone and play with your kids" Wow! I should meet Kate, because I too am an awful mother. Have I spanked my kids, you bet. Have I sat on the phone with a friend and told my kids to stop doing something, you bet. Have I drank/ate something without sharing with my kid, you bet. Must be so nice to sit and judge someone, who you don't know, so harshly. You all bash Kate, calling her all types of names and put out all types of accusations and sleep well at night? She is judged on her parenting style, fashion style, hair style, pronunciation of words, vacations, pulling kids out of school (which so many of you all do for your Disney vacations), it goes on and on. This is what's wrong with our world. What ever happened to kindness, good will towards others? Don't judge someone until you've walked in their shoes. None of you have a CLUE as to who the Gosselin's are. You know what a tv show wants you to know and pictures the papparazzi show. That is nothing. Must be so nice to be as perfect as all of you claim to be. I can't hold a candle to any of you.

IMO, when one is receiving payment for something, the person paying them can "judge" and evaluate the job they are doing. Kate receives payment (and all sorts of other stuff) for showing the world how she parents. My money goes to sponsers who pay TLC and make that payment possible. She is putting herself out there to get payed to shows how she parents. Therefore I feel she is putting herself out there to also be judged. She is fair game as long as she is cashing the checks. If she doesn't like it, all she needs to do is stop selling her families life for entertainment purposes, then I will stip critizing her for my entertainment purposes.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I know that she asked for the bottle. As I said, I wonde if her mind was wandering when they handed her the bottle. I certainly don't think it was cruel, even if I would have handed the bottle to my daughter. Of course then the rest would want a sip and the converstion would have been..

What nerve..that Kate talks about germs and instead of holding up a live interview, while they got the kids their cups, she sent the bottle down the line to all the kids. Oh gross, they had to share spit!! What an awful mother. She should have had them wait, so they didn't share the germs.

I am so with you.

Anything Kate Gosselin does or doesn't do...she will be judged harshly.

 

[momrek06]

Do you really believe I meant you? Sorry if I offended you, I meant a general you.....another reason I dislike this thread.

I never have bashed Kate....do you mean me? Who are you referring to in your general "you"?

 

[rileyroosmom]

Well, this is a discussion thread. If you've read any of it you'll see there are many people here who defend Kate and question the so-called Kate bashers. I think it provides balance and makes for a lively discussion here. Ladies, don't we have a good time?

Aren't you judging those here (whom you don't know) that you claim are judging Kate? So offering your opinion on J&K is not allowed then, or only if you think Kate is a perfect Mother and wife? We all have differing views regarding J&K and the life they've chosen for themselves and their kids. A lot has happened with their family of late, as I'm sure you've seen in the news.

Remember too that J&K have made the deliberate, conscious decision to continue with the show and this lifestyle that is opening them up to criticism. If you're going to live your life under the reality TV microscope then people will be critical. Some of it is valid, some of it is not. Kate says that their show is the 'realest reality show' out there and she sure doesn't seem to shrink back from criticism or care about what other people think of her. To quote a Seinfeld episode...'She's out there and she's loving it!' And for the record I am by no means a perfect parent and there have been several posters here on this thread who've shared their not-so-perfect moments. As a matter of fact, I can recall a time when I lost it in ESPN Zone.

Yes, I've read a lot of the thread I do know there are some non Kate bashers. It may be a lively discussion, but I can't stand how righteous some people portray themselves. I feel like I'm back in high school when I read how MANY people attack another person.

Yes, J & K chose to put themselves out there. I don't believe for a second they thought it would turn out like this.....do you? You don't know for sure that they haven't tried to walk away. They may be bound by a contract.....I don't know?

I'm not judging anyone. It's obvious what people believe when you read their statements. I have a hard time believing someone who says they would NEVER deny their thirsty child....they would stop everything to give them a drink or someone who says the would NEVER speak to their husband like Kate does. No one is so perfect that they could make these claims.....it bothers me. Because J&K have chosen to put their lives out there doesn't make it right for people to be cruel to someone. Look at it as a learning experience and maybe try to improve how you treat your family.

I'm not so sure Kate is "loving it". She looks like a very sad lady to me.

 

[rileyroosmom]

I never have bashed Kate....do you mean me? Who are you referring to in your general "you"?

Honestly??? I'm not going there with you.

 

[momrek06]

Honestly??? I'm not going there with you.

So you do not feel DISer's should bash Kate but it is ok for you to come on here and be mean!

 

[rileyroosmom]

So you do not feel DISer's should bash Kate but it is ok for you to come on here and be mean!

I'm mean? I'm just stating my opinion like everyone else.

 

[HeatherH]

Sorry if this has been posted already, but just had to share...I've been a long time watcher of this show, since the beginning. This story actually surprised me some...I thought J & K didn't believe in spanking?

KATE SPANKING LEAH

 

[1stluvispooh]

Sorry if this has been posted already, but just had to share...I've been a long time watcher of this show, since the beginning. This story actually surprised me some...I thought J & K didn't believe in spanking?

KATE SPANKING LEAH

Did anyone vote in the poll that asked given their fame should Kate had known better than to spank while outside? Well 58% said yes!

 

[cosmicrays]

I was wondering about the spanking as well. I cant believe this and there are pics of it.
Not smart to spank your kid out front with cameras pointed at your house.

 

[DMRick]

IMO, when one is receiving payment for something, the person paying them can "judge" and evaluate the job they are doing. Kate receives payment (and all sorts of other stuff) for showing the world how she parents. My money goes to sponsers who pay TLC and make that payment possible.

There isn't much I can say to this, if you actually think you pay her and so that is ok to judge everything she does.
You certainly can judge her, if that's what you like doing, but IMO that is just because she does put herself out there, not because we are the ones that pay her. You may buy from the shows sponsors, but and you may tell sponsors you won't purchase from them again, because of Kate, but that's all you own of this show. Anyone is free to judge anyone else, if they like doing that.