Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[Epcot luvr]

I think they have an agreement! How odd is that? He wasn't sneaking around, he just hangs out with her wherever. She is SO young, skinny and has weird teeth. Okay, that's not nice. Speaking of weird teeth, anybody notice Kate's in High School? That's weird. She was cute though.

Jon keeps saying he's not cheating on Kate, and they are wacky enough for that to just maybe be true.

Why is Kate so perplexed with having eight kids if her family growing up had six? What's the difference once you're outnumbered?

You bring up some very good points. They probably had an agreement and it was him getting busted by the brother of Deeana that threw a wrench into it. Sounds like something those two would cook up , without the approval or tweeking of TLC. I am sure TLC was well aware of the problems but not the agreement. Also, agreed eight kids as opposed to six. We were six growing up, at that point we could have been 9 it really was the same. By the time friends came over we were a group of at least 10.

 

[talulabelle]

How relaxed can you be with bodyguards following you?

Just curious, why do they have the bodyguards?

I know! Why?! It cracks me up every time I see her with "Mr. Gray" following her and she is acting like she is so important. I guess I can understand with the kids around (although, that would be my first red flag that I was doing something very wrong, when I felt I needed bodyguards to protect my kids from people in the public, and the reason I needed to do that was because I had exploited them and splashed them all over the media - when you fear for your kids enough to get a bodyguard, maybe it's time to get them out of the public eye?) But why does Kate need one when she is traveling? She is just trashy tat Kate from Reading, PA. I hardly think she needs to fear for her safety. All she would need to do is downplay herself a little and wear a ball cap to cover that crazy wacky hair and some shades (preferably brown or black and not the tacky white embellished ones) and no one would look twice at her. For goodness sake, we see pictures of REAL celebritys all the time walking their kids in carriages around new york and LA with no security. It is nuts.

 

[Epcot luvr]

I think you're probably right .. but I can't help but wonder, though .. is the spotlight eventually going to shift back to Kate & the bodyguard? With growing proof of Jon's relationship with someone else, I can't help but think that people (the general people, not the magazine or anyone specific) are going to start looking at Kate's relationship with the bodyguard more closely.

Madge,
Here are my thoughts on that for what it is worth. The majority of the audience is female, a woman scorned and all. Of course it was easy to be furious with Jon, a father, husband cheating. Kate went with that and started blabbing to People, the talk shows. I do not think she thought the spotlight was going to be put on her. I think, she figured this is my out, this is my avenue to a talk show. The women will love me they will identify with me. I don't think she expected the blogs to have such a voice regarding her relationship with Steve and how that has snowballed. Just my opinion, take it or leave it

 

[MusiqChic99]

You bring up some very good points. They probably had an agreement and it was him getting busted by the brother of Deeana that threw a wrench into it. Sounds like something those two would cook up , without the approval or tweeking of TLC. I am sure TLC was well aware of the problems but not the agreement. Also, agreed eight kids as opposed to six. We were six growing up, at that point we could have been 9 it really was the same. By the time friends came over we were a group of at least 10.

I orginially didn't buy the agreement thing at all but now I'm really starting to wonder now. I think Kate is angry now because she knows Jon is living it up with his new found freedom.

No matter what I hear now though, I really want to be wrong. I never want to see a marriage fail though.

 

[Promomx2]

I wonder if someone could convince Kate to go on the new reality show, "I'm a celebrity, get me out of here."

 

[1stluvispooh]

I think they have an agreement! How odd is that? He wasn't sneaking around, he just hangs out with her wherever. She is SO young, skinny and has weird teeth. Okay, that's not nice. Speaking of weird teeth, anybody notice Kate's in High School? That's weird. She was cute though.

Jon keeps saying he's not cheating on Kate, and they are wacky enough for that to just maybe be true.

Why is Kate so perplexed with having eight kids if her family growing up had six? What's the difference once you're outnumbered?

Kate said she had braces before the tups were born. Had them taken off a little early because of the pregnancy.

 

[Buckalew11]

Those pics just don't look like the same girl to me. Are we sure it is her? She looks so much younger than the girl in the car at 2 am to me. This Utah girl looks like a gawky 13 yo kid--the skinniness, the teeth...she just looks so darn young.

I guess it is the same gal but I would never think it was on my own w/o them telling me it is.

 

[madge]

Kate said she had braces before the tups were born. Had them taken off a little early because of the pregnancy.

it's been reported that she's had invisalign since the sextuplets were born, too. she's had something, since her teeth are so nice and straight now.

 

[Epcot luvr]

I orginially didn't buy the agreement thing at all but now I'm really starting to wonder now. I think Kate is angry now because she knows Jon is living it up with his new found freedom.

No matter what I hear now though, I really want to be wrong. I never want to see a marriage fail though.

I have witnessed 2 marriages on the verge of divorce. One made it, because the people worked really hard to make it. The other couple they divorced. The one couple that stayed married are great and happy, it was really hard to watch but wonderful to see it can work. The ones who got divorced both of their lives after turned into disasters putting it mildy. There is hope but the people have to be open to really working at it, really. The grass is not always greener and i think sometimes that is what people start to think and see when they have problems in their marriage.
I should add I am sure some people get divorced and it was the best choice for them. I just do not know that many people who are divorced. All of my siblings, we are 6, are still with their original spouses. 31 years of marriage the most and 10 years the least, the boys have been married the shortest amout of time.

 

[mistydoodles]

that is true .. but, who knows? he and Kate may very well have that agreement. they're out in broad daylight, people know who he is .. and more importantly, that she's not Kate ..

according to People, Jon has had some media training now, so everything that is going to come out of his mouth is "we're handling it privately", while they're living it publicly.

I think they have an agreement! How odd is that? He wasn't sneaking around, he just hangs out with her wherever. She is SO young, skinny and has weird teeth. Okay, that's not nice. Speaking of weird teeth, anybody notice Kate's in High School? That's weird. She was cute though.

Jon keeps saying he's not cheating on Kate, and they are wacky enough for that to just maybe be true.

Why is Kate so perplexed with having eight kids if her family growing up had six? What's the difference once you're outnumbered?

Yeah, and the crew is there with him. There's no way they didn't know!

I thought this was going to be some new dirt, not old! I was pretty sure he was in Utah with Deanna based on the reports.

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I don't think Kate cares.. I think the "marriage" has been over for quite some time and it's to Kate's advantage for these photos to keep popping up all over the place.. It enhances her "victim" role..

I agree with everyone. I think that this proves that there is an agreement. He wasn't hiding or trying to disguise himself so he most not have been worried about being caught. The magazines weren't on to him yet so he probably figured no one would make a big deal out of him being with some friends. It just disgust me so much though. I can't believe that this show is so much more important to them than their relationship and their kids. It makes me sick.

 

[C.Ann]

I think you're probably right .. but I can't help but wonder, though .. is the spotlight eventually going to shift back to Kate & the bodyguard? With growing proof of Jon's relationship with someone else, I can't help but think that people (the general people, not the magazine or anyone specific) are going to start looking at Kate's relationship with the bodyguard more closely.

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"If" Kate - and at this point it's still a big "if" - is having any kind of relationship with her body guard you can be sure it's being handled very, very discreetly.. Only stands to reason - because Kate can't play the part of "victim" and "perpetrator" at the same time - know what I mean?

It's extremely important for her to present herself to the public as a "victim" so she can continue to rake in the big bucks.. In that respect, she's smart..

 

[Epcot luvr]

it's been reported that she's had invisalign since the sextuplets were born, too. she's had something, since her teeth are so nice and straight now.

Bring on the flames, I think she got veneers, I am going on record saying they are veneers.

 

[madge]

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"If" Kate - and at this point it's still a big "if" - is having any kind of relationship with her body guard you can be sure it's being handled very, very discreetly.. Only stands to reason - because Kate can't play the part of "victim" and "perpetrator" at the same time - know what I mean?

It's extremely important for her to present herself to the public as a "victim" so she can continue to rake in the big bucks.. In that respect, she's smart..

I understand and totally agree.

 

[madge]

Bring on the flames, I think she got veneers, I am going on record saying they are veneers.

she may have .. all I know is that she's had some dental work done. I think that's pretty obvious. LOL

 

[Epcot luvr]

l:

I wonder if someone could convince Kate to go on the new reality show, "I'm a celebrity, get me out of here."

She would make Speidi look like a day at the park, how about The Surreal life house.

 

[mousey]

Deanna must love kids (since she's a teacher) and obviously doesn't mind that Jon comes wiht 8!! I'm sure these little pleasure trips for Kate is to help her forget about the current state of her life. For all we know, maybe they already divorced and haven't released it because of the show. TLC can cover so much, but as each detail comes out, its becoming harder and harder to explain.

 

[DMRick]

Your car seat should be thrown out. It does not meet today's safety standards - child safety seats should not be used more than 6 years past their date of manufacture.

I'm not using it..just haven't gotten around to cutting it up and putting it in the trash. It's way back in a corner. That is exactly my point, it was used less than a half dozen times, but should still not be given to anyone. My grands are teenagers. I was just comenting that what people have in the attic and try to pass on, may not be safe.

 

[Epcot luvr]

I'm not using it..just haven't gotten around to cutting it up and putting it in the trash. It's way back in a corner. That is exactly my point, it was used less than a half dozen times, but should still not be given to anyone. My grands are teenagers. I was just comenting that what people have in the attic and try to pass on, may not be safe.

Remember when a carseat was your moms arm whe she would break hard. We never even wore seatbelts in the 70's. I know people drive much faster today and the cars are bigger, and we are more educated it wasn;t that long ago though.

 

[madge]

I'm not using it..just haven't gotten around to cutting it up and putting it in the trash. It's way back in a corner. That is exactly my point, it was used less than a half dozen times, but should still not be given to anyone. My grands are teenagers. I was just comenting that what people have in the attic and try to pass on, may not be safe.

with all the recent recalls, people could be using stuff the shouldn't right now and not even realize it. I work a local consignment sale twice a year, and the amount of recalls in staggering. we've had to turn away things that were practically brand new because of it. it's one of those things you can't be too careful about.

 

[DMRick]

I think you're probably right .. but I can't help but wonder, though .. is the spotlight eventually going to shift back to Kate & the bodyguard? With growing proof of Jon's relationship with someone else, I can't help but think that people (the general people, not the magazine or anyone specific) are going to start looking at Kate's relationship with the bodyguard more closely.

..and what if she isn't having an affair. Is she a victim then, or can't Kate ever be a victim? Is she always the bad guy, no matter what her husband does. Just wondering.

And who knows, maybe she is also having an affair. I know one thing, if that bodyguard and his wife were to break up, even if Kate wasn't before, if she does now (go out with him), she'll be accused of having an affair right along, even if she wasn't the cause. After all, she wears bikini's and gets her teeth fixed, and has her nails done and spends time on her hair, and only enjoys her kids when the camera is on her. And we all know for a fact she's just a money grubbing witch. She's totally lying when she says she's doing this for the kids. We all know no parent ever works hard for their kids. Shame on her LOL!!

Hard to believe that anyone watches the show anymore, with so many thinking what they do about Kate. Soon, I should have the show all to myself. I also think that those that want it to stop will get their wish, because there is so much bad talk that I can't imagine TLC will be able to keep the lid on much longer. Some of the blogs are really talking dirt about the parents, deserved or not, it doesn't seem to matter. They are careful to say they don't know for sure, but once it's out there it's harder to prove a lot of the crap they say isn't true.


I may have thought they could get through it before, but with all the smack people keep coming out with, it's getting worse and worse.