Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

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that article was written 6 months ago. I hope they still have a positive relationship .. but until Beth speaks out, we'll never know.

We don't know, but I really don't believe Kate and Beth are still close. Kate used to talk about Beth or mention her pretty frequently on the show, now she never does and you would think Beth might have done a book signing or two with Kate or even if she didn't want to do that, maybe even just travelled with her to a couple of them for girlfriend time, but we haven't seen that and I think we would have. Also Beth used to be pretty vocal about defending Jon and Kate, she blogged and posted on some of the message boards, but she has been totally silent for awhile. I also think it's very telling that Kate never mentions Beth when talking about the book. Beth's name is on the cover, she wrote it, but is never mentioned now, Kate used to tell stories about how they worked on the book together but she doesn't anymore.
 
Well if she didn' t like Kate I think she would have said something in the article.
not necessarily. she may not have said anything for a variety of reasons... and that goes for both sides of the discussion.
 

Does anyone know if the twins changed schools since the move?

Well, courtesy of an article in my local Sunday News, I have an answer to my own question. Despite the move, the twins will still attend their old school in Lancaster County.

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/238256

Welcome wore out
Stars of ‘Jon & Kate Plus 8’ lived in Mount Joy Township as fame grew. Neighbors happy to see wife, cameras leave.

Sunday News
Published: May 31, 2009
00:19 EST
Elizabethtown

By PAUL FRANZ, Staff Writer
It's been quiet in the Gosselins' former Mount Joy Township neighborhood for months now.

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Shown is the Mount Joy Township house where the Gosselins lived. It is up for sale.

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Finally.

The TV crews vanished. Silence replaced the sounds of eight playful children, comprised of a set of twins and sextuplets.

"Not having the filming crews around anymore is nice," said Samantha Faulstick, who lives around the corner on Shefford Drive.

Jon and Kate Gosselin, who were launched to reality TV show fame on TLC with "Jon & Kate Plus 8," left the Westbrooke development in Mount Joy Township late last year to move into a $1.35 million estate they bought in Wernersville, Berks County.

Now, there is a red-and-white for-sale sign on the front lawn.

After spending more than four months on the market — asking price, $325,000 — the five-bedroom, 2½-bathroom home at 2190 Andrew Ave. hasn't fetched a buyer. The Gosselins originally bought the house in 2006 for $280,000.

Neighbors aren't complaining about the vacancy.

"It's almost as if their house wasn't a part of the neighborhood," Faulstick said.

There was initiallya good rapport, but the Gosselins' relationship with the neighborhood deteriorated as time went on, she said. "They were very nice when they first moved in."

Jon and the eight children were always nice, others said.

"Jon seemed like a regular guy," said Ruth Johnson, who frequently visits her brother, a resident of the development. "[Jon] was very friendly and the kids were wonderful."

And Kate?

Eh, not so much.

"I never really talked to Kate; I just heard her yell," said Courtney Bentz, who lives across the street from the former Gosselin home.

Gossip columnists and tabloids believe that Kate Gosselin is a "difficult woman," writes Catherine Connors, who runs the mommy blog, Their Bad Mother. Kate's brother and sister-in-law accused her of exploiting the children on CBS's "The Early Show" last week.

"I feel bad for the kids," Bentz said.

"John & Kate Plus 8" began as a one-hour special about the family's experience raising sextuplets which aired on the Discovery Health Channel in 2006. It moved to TLC and became a weekly reality show in 2007.

Family trips to destinations in and around Lancaster County, such as the Dutch Wonderland amusement park, were often the focus of episodes. Other trips featured on the show included ones to Hershey Park and the Strasburg Rail Road.

The show's popularity skyrocketed this year as accusations of marital infidelity have flown in gossip tabloids. It may spell disaster for the family, but it's been ratings gold for TLC.

Misery sells.

The Gosselins make $50,000 to $75,000 per episode, CNN reported.

The hour-long fifth season premiere of "Jon & Kate Plus 8," which aired on Memorial Day, drew a record 9.8 million viewers — more than double that of the fourth season finale.

Not so nice

Kate's allegedly unpleasant demeanor didn't compare to the TV and sound crews that arrived in the otherwise quiet Westbrooke development.

Bentz, who said she watches the reality show only occasionally, always saw the Gosselin children followed around by cameras in the front yard.

"We could never get close because someone would always block us," she said.

Sometimes sound crews would approach neighbors and tell them to stop mowing grass because it interfered with their recording, Faulstick said.

"We have lives, too," she said.

TV vans would take up parking on the development's streets. They'd often set up in front of Faulstick's home because it had a clear vantage shot of the Gosselins' backyard, where the kids were filmed playing.

The Gosselins' relationship with the neighborhood started to turn sour last summer when two signs were placed on the front lawn, warning passers-by not to approach the home, the family or to take pictures.

Eventually, Mount Joy Township officials forced the family to take down the signs, Faulstick said.

Calls to Mount Joy Township's zoning officer inquiring about the incident weren't returned by press time.

Only a warm spring breeze and a few chirping birds passed through the Westbrooke development Thursday afternoon. One wouldn't realize the 2190 Andrew Ave. home was the site of a popular reality TV show.

"We're a friendly neighborhood," Faulstick said. "We all get along. But [The Gosselins] wanted nothing to do with it."

Twins in local school

The Gosselin family still has roots in Lancaster County. The oldest children, Cara and Mady, who are 8-year-old fraternal twins, attend a nonpublic school in the county.

The Gosselins, who married in 1999, wanted to start a family, but had trouble conceiving because of infertility, according to the online blog ParentDish. Kate started taking fertility drugs and, in 2000, Cara and Mady were born. Kate Gosselin delivered the sextuplets in 2004, one of 138 confirmed sets born worldwide, the Associated Press reported.

National press inquiries to families whose children attend school with Mady and Cara prompted the school administration to send an e-mail to parents.

"Neither the school — nor the Gosselins — seek sensational media attention for their children," the e-mail stated. "Should a media representative contact you about the Gosselins, we ask that you provide no comment."

A school representative said last week, "There were enough [press] inquiries that we felt that we had to advise folks not to make statements. [The school] is not seeking to add to any sensationalism."

Despite moving to Berks County, the twins are still enrolled for the next school year, the representative said.

Tough sell?

Other than on TV, no one living in the Westbrooke development has seen the Gosselins since they moved to Berks County.

Ruth Johnson said she saw what appeared to be a Realtor showing the home to a "younger" couple Wednesday.

"We'll see the lights on occasionally," Courtney Bentz said.

Crystal Overly, the listed Realtor for the brick Cape Cod home, declined to comment for this article, citing a confidentiality agreement signed with the family's lawyer.

Overly, a Realtor for Brownstone Real Estate Co. in Hershey, said the agreement was typical for sales involving celebrities.

According to information obtained from a Lancaster County Realtor database, the house has been on the market 133 days.

A $4,000 commission bonus to the selling agent was also offered, according to the database.

The time the house has spent unsold on the market is only slightly above average for similarly priced county homes, which take about 116 days to sell.

Only 45 homes priced between $300,000 and $400,000 have sold in the first three months of 2009. The figure is down 15 from the same period in 2008, when 60 homes priced in that range were sold in the county.


Paul Franz is a Sunday News staff writer. Contact him at pfranz@lnpnews.com or at 295-5063.
 
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no, but Kate Gosselin is one of the most prominent moms of multiples out there. She was the go-to gal whenever they were looking for advice about Octmom. It isn't a stretch to suggest that Octomom is patterning her TV career after Kate.

Well didn't Kate say recently that she was "in touch" with other families of multiples but "wouldn't comment on another family"? I guess we have a better idea of who she's been talking to recently!

Yes, the girls look larger but in that dress, to me, she looks pregnant. How funny would that be!!!

Also, I noticed in the pictures that she is still wearing her wedding rings.

ITA! I thought - "wow!" to both the chest area as well as the mid section.
 
Back on the subject of Beth and other family/friends not coming to speak out....for some reason (I can't recall what got me started on this thinking today) I was thinking about what I would do if I were in that situation. Honestly, being not close at ALL to my family, I would have to decline to comment on anything simply because I haven't been around any of them in so long that I wouldn't be able to give any honest answers. Maybe this is the reason why no one's coming out? They're simply not around and wouldn't have the answers to the questions the reports might ask if they answer the phone. I know if someone called today and asked something about my brother, my response would be "he's still alive?" (terrible I know but he's - last I knew - into VERY bad choices and was not on a good track last time I was around him - considering that was underage drinking and getting high in the parking lot at my wedding....). There's no point in "speculating" or commenting on how things were "back in the day" because that was five years ago and it was my wedding day so I'm sure I couldn't see anything. Yes I could rehash lots of goings ons from that day - but it's just a day and it was long ago. What would that say about him now? People could change a lot in five years...... So, maybe that's why the family and friends and laying low right now and just not responding to reporters at this time....they're honestly as lost as the rest of us right now. :sad2:
 
I can't see Jon having the kids stay with him at a new place and that isn't to knock him, I think it would be way too disruptive for the kids and they will work out something where Jon will come to the house to stay with them during his vistation or whatever. Even if he got a place with 5 bedrooms, I can't imagine packing 8 kids up to stay with him every other weekend, at least not at this point.

Well, I think if there is a seperation agreement or custody issue the kids should have primary residence at the new home and the parents have visit or custodial days with them. Since the money came from the kids and to bounce them about would be so disruptive. THe longistics of all their needs, beds, clothing, school etc.

It would make more sense to let them stay there and J & K to figure out what to do....Would make sense that they have the old home and time to sit and figure out what went wrong and how to wake up.
 
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