Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[madge]

There are a lot of times I won't one of my kids have a dessert and the other one can. If they are acting up. if they won't eat dinner there are a ton of reason

even when they're celebrating a birthday with a special treat?

 

[newtodis]

The E special JOn and Kate twisted fate was so stupid! The brother is such a nerd. I could not help but make fun of him the whole time(I know I am mean) and then a body guard from a club is following them around. Can anyone else come out of the wood work? But the brother was the worst. He thought he was funny but he was just stupid.

I agree. The special wasn't stuff we here on the DIS already knew! I think we should put together our own special and see if we can get it on tv or write an article to be printed. We might as well cash in too right???

And they said that they were going to do the one one one outings once a year, but I haven't seen them do that again, either. I think the tups were three and now they are five, and they haven't done it since.

I hope that's something they kept up on. Maybe they are - they showed the Jon and Cara trip last season and Kate and Mady this season so maybe they're just not showing all the other kids??? That's what I'd like to think...

Kate says in her speech that people comment to her (all the time) that if Kate can do it with 8 children, then they can get up every day and do it with ___ kids.

What people don't realize is Kate does it with help. A lot of help.

ITA! I'm sure I could find another two people to go on vacation with us (I only have two kids!) but how do I afford to take my family in addition to two others (or even on for goodness sakes!) with me on all of those trips throughout the year! It's not so much about being able to find the help and actually take the trip as it is to afford the trip IMHO.

the house in Elizabethtown has not sold.

the Gosselin's estimated worth is $10 million.

I am surprised they haven't traded up on the blue van .. it's probably got a ton of miles on it by now.

I didn't think the house had sold either. I think in the E! special last night they showed the house with the for sale sign in the front yard.

I guess when you show the number ($10 mil), that's *only* $1 million/person. What's the "going rate" on raising kids these days? I found this http://www.babycenter.com/cost-of-raising-child-calculator (I'm interested in going back and seeing what I'm going to spend because you can really tailor the calculator to your family) and it shows the total PER CHILD of Cost for first year (excluding college) is $16,513
Total cost is $348,418. That's a lot - almost half of that child's "worth". Even if it was invested wisely and not spent/used until college, it might double. They've become accostomed (sp?) to a certain lifestyle - is $2 million enough for them to live out the rest of their lives if they never work again?? Who knows. If they get married and have kids, I could see them plowing through that money in no time by the time you buy a house, car, wedding, kids, vacations. It could be gone quickly.

 

[happygirl]

even when they're celebrating a birthday with a special treat?

Yes, my kids have to act right all the time birthday included

 

[Nicolepa]

No, I don't think either on of them is hirable today. But I'm just saying that everyone says they couldn't make it on their salaries and that's just not true.

They could stop stop the show. Lay low for a couple of years. Maybe go back to school to freshen up their skills. Then when all this mess settles down go back to "regular" jobs. Although I think she could keep doing the lectures and make plenty of money to support them (in a reasonable lifestyle). I have a girlfriend who has adopted 7 children. Her husband is a pastor. After she adopted the last one she went back to school and got her masters. She is now is a counslor and goes on speaking engagements to churches, moms clubs ect to earn extra money.

 

[newtodis]

even when they're celebrating a birthday with a special treat?

I would. And my DS4 refers to me as "mean and evil" Just this morning it was threatened that if he did not eat half a piece of pizza he would NOT be going to eat ice cream with the rest of his t-ball team - he would sit outside the ice cream place and watch everythough through the window. He straightened up and ate - that's for sure. Now I'm not saying I haven't caved before (he got a piece of his Disney birthday cake last year without eating a stich of food but I think that was more because of the price I paid for the birthday cake! ) it's just a rule we try very hard to go by. I also try to make the birthday child's "favorite" meal for dinner (I could see that would be VERY hard with six kids but when they're younger like that I would think some of them would share favorite things) so I don't have to fight about eating and try to work the situation out for the best outcome for everyone. Again, I understand that's not as easy with six kids but that might be the ONE night a year that I make six small meals - each their favorite - or allow them to pick from two or three things.

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

even when they're celebrating a birthday with a special treat?

Yes, my kids have to act right all the time birthday included

I have mixed feelings here. If it was a birthday treat, then you might let it slide, but then, you're sending mixed signals to the kids if you let them get away with bad behavior. I don't know, that would be a tough one!

I can't judge Jon and Kate on this one b/c I just don't know. But if one little girl did not eat and got her cupcake and the boys didn't eat and DID NOT get their cupcake, then I disagree with that. But I didn't see the episode and I wasn't there at their house, so I can't say for sure. But if that did happen, then I think they were wrong.

 

[madge]

I would. And my DS4 refers to me as "mean and evil" Just this morning it was threatened that if he did not eat half a piece of pizza he would NOT be going to eat ice cream with the rest of his t-ball team - he would sit outside the ice cream place and watch everythough through the window. He straightened up and ate - that's for sure. Now I'm not saying I haven't caved before (he got a piece of his Disney birthday cake last year without eating a stich of food but I think that was more because of the price I paid for the birthday cake! ) it's just a rule we try very hard to go by. I also try to make the birthday child's "favorite" meal for dinner (I could see that would be VERY hard with six kids but when they're younger like that I would think some of them would share favorite things) so I don't have to fight about eating and try to work the situation out for the best outcome for everyone. Again, I understand that's not as easy with six kids but that might be the ONE night a year that I make six small meals - each their favorite - or allow them to pick from two or three things.

I do, too .. I can't ever remember a birthday where getting my kids to eat their supper first was a problem. The meal is as much a part of the day as the cake and presents!

 

[madge]

If they were why in the world would they have 2 house payments

that's a good question.

which makes me wonder... does Kate and/or Jon even have any idea about mortgages and such now? I would think, at this point, they'd have to use an accountant for everything. But I wonder if they're involved with their earnings now.

 

[happygirl]

I have been trying to get on there website all day. It is down all morning . Is anyone else having this problem

 

[Maggimus]

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/Beach-Cruising-Week-of-May-28-2943.gallery/?gt1=28135

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Hayden Panettiere enjoys a tanning application from her new friend Kate Gosselin aboard the "Jon & Kate Plus 8" private yacht in the south of France. Or maybe it's just a publicity stunt, but they sure seem friendly.

Sorry this may already have been posted (too much to read everything today). That doesn't look like Kate to me... I guess its the windblown hair

 

[Epcot luvr]

ITA! I'm sure I could find another two people to go on vacation with us (I only have two kids!) but how do I afford to take my family in addition to two others (or even on for goodness sakes!) with me on all of those trips throughout the year! It's not so much about being able to find the help and actually take the trip as it is to afford the trip IMHO.

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I thought this recently when they were on their first ski trip, and Kate said something about being able to do it, meaning handle travelling with the kids for vacation, And also when they went just the two of them to The Keys.
I know when I got first married those kind of trips were out of the question and frankly now that kind of vacation is a big deal and a lot of money. The airfare alone just for 4 and The Keys shoot nothing is cheap there. I thought oh must be nice least of the worries is how to pay for it.

 

[kidshop]

I guess when you show the number ($10 mil), that's *only* $1 million/person. What's the "going rate" on raising kids these days? I found this http://www.babycenter.com/cost-of-raising-child-calculator (I'm interested in going back and seeing what I'm going to spend because you can really tailor the calculator to your family) and it shows the total PER CHILD of Cost for first year (excluding college) is $16,513
Total cost is $348,418. That's a lot - almost half of that child's "worth". Even if it was invested wisely and not spent/used until college, it might double. They've become accostomed (sp?) to a certain lifestyle - is $2 million enough for them to live out the rest of their lives if they never work again?? Who knows. If they get married and have kids, I could see them plowing through that money in no time by the time you buy a house, car, wedding, kids, vacations. It could be gone quickly.

Isn't the 'going rate' for everyone and not just those who make millions? My kids don't have a million each now and probably never will. Are they doomed to poverty?

 

[happygirl]

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/Beach-Cruising-Week-of-May-28-2943.gallery/?gt1=28135



Sorry this may already have been posted (too much to read everything today). That doesn't look like Kate to me... I guess its the windblown hair

It doesn't look tall enough for Kate.

 

[mikki'smom]

Sorry if I sound angry. It only 1030 and my kids have already pushed all my buttons already

Wow! Wonder how you would react if you had 8 kids. Maybe when Kate yells she is just tired, and stressed, and bewildered by all the hateful things that people who don't even know her say about her, and crushed because the love of her life has just given up, and her family has stabbed her in the back, and ........

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/Beach-Cruising-Week-of-May-28-2943.gallery/?gt1=28135



Sorry this may already have been posted (too much to read everything today). That doesn't look like Kate to me... I guess its the windblown hair

It didn't look like Kate to me, either! Was a tattoo on her bum?

 

[Epcot luvr]

that's a good question.

which makes me wonder... does Kate and/or Jon even have any idea about mortgages and such now? I would think, at this point, they'd have to use an accountant for everything. But I wonder if they're involved with their earnings now.

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Yes, that is a good question. Many years ago when I bought my first car I had figured out down to the penny what my payment would be, what I knew I could afford. I wonder too, if they are signing the checks or is this another disaster around the bend, where did all the money go?

 

[happygirl]

Wow! Wonder how you would react if you had 8 kids. Maybe when Kate yells she is just tired, and stressed, and bewildered by all the hateful things that people who don't even know her say about her, and crushed because the love of her life has just given up, and her family has stabbed her in the back, and ........

LOL you are preacher to the Kate and Jon choir

 

[Maggimus]

It doesn't look tall enough for Kate.

It didn't look like Kate to me, either! Was a tattoo on her bum?

thats what i was thinking Looked like one to me... i googled the tattoo on kate gosselins butt and only came up with the winnie the pooh tattoo.

 

[happygirl]

It didn't look like Kate to me, either! Was a tattoo on her bum?

I'm not sure what it but it's huge lol

 

[happygirl]

I think it would make huge news that Kate was on a French cruise