Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[WaltD4Me]

what I keep going back to are two things:

(and I'd like your opinions!)

1. WHY have the wedding vow renwal?

2. WHY move to a huge house if you knew you were going to split up? (and I think they knew long before that move)

I was wondering the same things.

I went to You Tube and found a the clip of their vow renewal and to me, it seems like maybe they were already in counseling. If you listen to their vows, it seems like a professional has worked with them and told them that Jon needs to tell Kate how he feels and Kate needs to be more patient and understanding of Jon's feelings. If you watch, you will see what I mean, they seem to list things they need to work on together. Watching it again, I just don't believe the renewal was all just a sham, they both seemed sincere to me. Kate a bit more so than Jon, but that might just be a guy thing. Either way, neither seemed fake to me or acted.

Here is the clip --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghAnnilUdl0

As for the house, I think that was bought before the renewal? Maybe they were earnestly trying to work things out then.

 

[talulabelle]

I think they are BOTH sick sick people to go on tv and tell the WORLD about their divorce!! Those poor kids will see this one day and think our stupid their parents look! The only word that comes to mind is MORONS

Yep. I agree. Morons. Both of them. Jeez at this point I'm hoping the "big announcement" will be that Aunt Jodie has won custody of all 8 kids and Kate and Jon get limited supervised visitation. That would give me "peace" as Kate says in the commercial.

 

[*NikkiBell*]

http://www.popeater.com/television/...rticle/jon-and-kate-gosselin-divorcing/537333

 

[Nik's Mom]

Ugh! They both have issues. To announce your divorce and actually hype it is sick! http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=415572&gt1=28103

I know I am not watching tonight. Those of you who are equally as disgusted, I suggest that you not tune in tonight. The lack of viewers will send a strong message. This show needs to be cancelled. I really have no respect for either of them for selling their family to they highest bidder.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Yep. I agree. Morons. Both of them. Jeez at this point I'm hoping the "big announcement" will be that Aunt Jodie has won custody of all 8 kids and Kate and Jon get limited supervised visitation. That would give me "peace" as Kate says in the commercial.

Well that would be ridiculous. It's not like J&K are abusing their kids and need to have them taken away. How would you feel if people criticized the way you raised your kids and further suggested that your sister-in-law get custody of them? I'd be pretty ticked if it were me.

I certainly wouldn't tell the world on TV that my DH and I are divorcing (we're not for the record ). However, perhaps because they signed on for this season, TLC has certain rules about how they handle their marital status. Who knows. I can't imagine that J&K would want to tell it on TV for the sake of their kids but perhaps they have to because of TLC restrictions. Nobody is privy to their contractual obligations. I just know that I wouldn't do so but I'd also never sign up for a reality TV show either!

 

[Epcot luvr]

Where is the money those kids earned!!!

I guess the legal fees for the divorce should be drawn from the bank acounts of those 8 little faces , do they even have bank accounts???

 

[Epcot luvr]

Yep. I agree. Morons. Both of them. Jeez at this point I'm hoping the "big announcement" will be that Aunt Jodie has won custody of all 8 kids and Kate and Jon get limited supervised visitation. That would give me "peace" as Kate says in the commercial.

One could only hope, maybe Kate's mystery parents could file for custody. Kate and Jon need serious help.

 

[*NikkiBell*]

All in all, I feel badly for Kate and the kids. Yes, Kate has gone a bit overboard in the way that she talked to Jon, etc. However, she deeply loves her kids and that is obvious. I do think that she has let the money go to her head a little bit, but so has Jon. Still, you don't see her running around getting totally inebriated and hanging out with 20 somethings with a partner and eight kids left at home. I think Jon has totally lost it and needs to get a grip. He is supposed to be a father and is not even interested in getting a place for his kids to spend the night in after the divorce is settled. He should be ashamed of himself.

As for the kids' money from the show, how do you know that there isn't a trust fund in place?

 

[talulabelle]

Well that would be ridiculous. It's not like J&K are abusing their kids and need to have them taken away. How would you feel if people criticized the way you raised your kids and further suggested that your sister-in-law get custody of them? I'd be pretty ticked if it were me.
I certainly wouldn't tell the world on TV that my DH and I are divorcing (we're not for the record ). However, perhaps because they signed on for this season, TLC has certain rules about how they handle their marital status. Who knows. I can't imagine that J&K would want to tell it on TV for the sake of their kids but perhaps they have to because of TLC restrictions. Nobody is privy to their contractual obligations. I just know that I wouldn't do so but I'd also never sign up for a reality TV show either!

In regard to the bold above...uh.. take sarcasm literally much?

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

Jeez at this point I'm hoping the "big announcement" will be that Aunt Jodie has won custody of all 8 kids and Kate and Jon get limited supervised visitation.

That would be the last thing I would wish on those kids.

 

[WaltD4Me]

The same could be said about Kate though. She wants what she wants on her terms.

True, but Kate doesn't whine about it nearly as much as Jon and Kate never said she wanted to stop doing the show because of all the attention or that she hated it and wanted to just be Kate. Jon on the other hand has complained about the attention alot and has said and that he just wants to be Jon, not Jon & Kate Plus 8. And yet, he doesn't mind when he is getting the motorcycle or the condo in Utah or when he voluntarily goes out in front of his house to sign autographs and is answering questions or goes to the grocery store and again answers "reporter" questions. You really don't see Kate doing any of that, notice we haven't seen any pictures of her out in the past few days and I don't think I have ever seen her stop and talk to the press, let alone stand in front of her house doing it.

And kinda funny...Jon tells the "P" people at the grocery store that he has been taking care of the kids all by himself for the last 4 days, yet, there is he is at the grocery store by himself. What did he do? Leave the kids at home all by themselves?

 

[I'mAlittleBitGoofy]

That would be the last thing I would wish on those kids.

OT I just wanted to say I LOVE the pic in your siggy of your pup!! Too cute!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

In regard to the bold above...uh.. take sarcasm literally much?

Actually I come from a long line of sarcastic family members so yes, I am quite familiar with it. I'm sure you know that someone's tone can be hard to determine online like here on the disboards. I thought you were serious hence my response. Honestly some of your comments have been a tad negative which is why I assumed that you were serious. Sorry if I misunderstood you though.

 

[Buckalew11]

I was re-reading the People Mag. article that Kate did in May regarding Jon's partying ways, etc. Then I read the article Jon did and boy is it interesting...



How irresponsible does he sound? He liked the show in the beginning because he was having fun but then it became work so he was unhappy. Hello! Did you think that you could cruise through life and not work, only have fun? He feels he never got to experience his 20's since he got married at 22. Clearly he is experiencing it now. Again, what married man of 8 young kids goes out partying at a bar till 2 am with a 23 year old girl? A stupid one, IMO. I'm tired of his argument that he married young, had kids young, didn't get to experience his 20's. The reality is that life is work. People (unless you're Paris Hilton!) can't party all the time or shirk their responsibility. He's married with children. Goodness, if my DH acted that way I'd freak. Talk about a mid-life crisis. For all those advocates out there concerned for the kids' welfare and think they are being exploited, Jon clearly said he doesn't feel the kids are. So you (general you) can't pin that one on Kate. And Jon is apartment hunting in NY city? That doesn't really sound like he wants to be close (geographically) to his kids. When my parents divorced we were still only 20 min. from my Dad's new house and that was important. How often is Jon planning to see them then? I know I'm speculating here but it just chaps my hide that he'd consider somewhere far like that after stressing how he's 'here for his kids'. Doesn't add up.

He definitely needed to sow those wild oats, I guess. My dad married at 19. Thank God he never acted like this. Parents need their own interests and time away but geez, he always says it like "poor me" and makes the kids sound like burdens to "his" time. Moving to NYC, so far away, speaks volumes. Even if they divorce and he just comes to the house 2 weeks a month or whatever--in an ememrgency, he is so far away.

Well that would be ridiculous. It's not like J&K are abusing their kids and need to have them taken away. How would you feel if people criticized the way you raised your kids and further suggested that your sister-in-law get custody of them? I'd be pretty ticked if it were me.

I can't imagine giving those kids to Aunt Jodi, of all people! No way, no how.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

OT I just wanted to say I LOVE the pic in your siggy of your pup!! Too cute!

Thank you, he is our baby. He just got his summer cut and looks like half the dog but he is much cooler.

 

[I'mAlittleBitGoofy]

Thank you, he is our baby. He just got his summer cut and looks like half the dog but he is much cooler.

Well he's adorable!

 

[Buckalew11]

True, but Kate doesn't whine about it nearly as much as Jon and Kate never said she wanted to stop doing the show because of all the attention or that she hated it and wanted to just be Kate. Jon on the other hand has complained about the attention alot and has said and that he just wants to be Jon, not Jon & Kate Plus 8. And yet, he doesn't mind when he is getting the motorcycle or the condo in Utah or when he voluntarily goes out in front of his house to sign autographs and is answering questions or goes to the grocery store and again answers "reporter" questions. You really don't see Kate doing any of that, notice we haven't seen any pictures of her out in the past few days and I don't think I have ever seen her stop and talk to the press, let alone stand in front of her house doing it.

And kinda funny...Jon tells the "P" people at the grocery store that he has been taking care of the kids all by himself for the last 4 days, yet, there is he is at the grocery store by himself. What did he do? Leave the kids at home all by themselves?

I wonder who filed for divorce today? Jon or Kate? Jon was at home alone for 4 days while Kate was ''somewhere"--could it have been her? Or did he file when he was out to the grocery store (alone, without his kids)? That will be interesting to know. I bet TLC is hopping mad that whoever it is did not wait until tomorrow. if it was Jon, I think it was probably on purpose as he seems to be rebellious these days.

That would be the last thing I would wish on those kids.

looks like we weren't the only ones who didn't pick up on the sarcasm!!! Someone else agree with her so they did not either. I thought it went with a lot of other posts so I just didn't get it.

 

[GOOFY4DONALD]

I'm not sure why I spelled it that way. I wanted to name her Chloe, but I had a dog named Cody at the time and for a day I called them both, Clody...so I went with second choice Kacie.

I liked it with a K for some reason....and it seemed to me that since she was a girl I should use ie instead of Kasey.

I was just wondering...that is how my name is spelled and whenever I see the name spelled that way I always take notice.

 

[Grumpy's Gal]

I wonder if Jon will father any more children....... (with someone other than Kate)

anyone? have an opinion?

 

[*NikkiBell*]

What is your take on Aunt Jodi's sister's blog? I just got up to speed with this mess and Aunt Jodi and Kevin's CBS interview. I have mixed feelings.