Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 3

[madge]

Who knows what season 5 will bring.

more editing and manipulation for ratings.

more of Kate, less of Jon.

continued trips and outings...

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I hear woman talk to their husbands all the time like that. I know I occasionally catch myself treating DH like one of my kids. Just the other day he was going to take the dogs outside and I HATE when he does because I don't think he watches them well enough. So I said, "don't take them out front!" he said, "why?" then I realized how bossy I was being and I said, "you can take them out front if you want.....you are a grown man and you can do what you want".

I have caught myself treating my DH like that at times. I hear myself after I say something snippy or bossy and I realize it sounds pretty rude! I love my DH and respect him and he does the same for me. We aren't perfect and have our share of fights but we work hard to keep our marriage pleasant and happy or as close to that as possible . I just wonder if J&K are giving their own marriage the kind of attention it deserves, you know? Marriage takes work, you both have to be invested in it to make it work. Maybe J&K can do that, maybe not. I just know from experience that divorce is difficult for the kids.

 

[DMRick]

I do wonder if that is what TLC wants us to see. I would prob have said to my husband, they are wearing the red dresses, please put in the red bows. I used to wonder, did Kate tell or ask him to put certain bows on, and he just didn't listen, and all TLC showed us was the shrew part? If she had already told him, and he did it how she wanted, would the show not have been as interesting, or more "Father know's Best" and how boring would that be in these times? Or, had they discussed that she will clean up the kitchen mess, while he feeds them, but all we saw was him wandering, and her telling him to feed them, by the third time, not so nicely? I know that after I would ask politely something of my husband, by the third or fourth time, I might not have been so nice (and with three kids, sometimes I just wasn't so polite). I used to wonder..does the man even hear me. After 40 years of marriage I can honestly say nope, back then, he really didn't LOL. I just wonder, what would we see, if there was no cutting room. That I would like to see for sure.

Even the promo's. Are we seeing just some of it, the parts that will make us tune in? I can't wait for Monday to see just what they are letting us in to see.

I've always thought that Kate treated Jon like a 9th child...."Jon, not those hair ribbons", "Jon feed them", "Jon put their play clothes", "Jon, HELLOOOO!" etc. He does mutter under his breath rather than confront her for treating him that way. I think the only time I recall is the Toys R Us episode where she was screaming for him in the check-out lane and he was mortified. After he told her how embarassed he was and she was surprised.

I will say that I don't think Jon had to be led to do anything. Kate wants things done a certain way and expects Jon to do it that exact way. I'm not saying that's right or wrong but it's always a good idea to ask nicely rather than snap rudely. Honestly, they did use to fight back and forth...Kate snipping at Jon and then Jon snipping right back at her. That all changed on season 4, at least in my opinion. He looked tired and depressed like the fight was just gone in him. And Kate just looked irritated. Who knows what season 5 will bring.

 

[emer95]

Totally off-topic- DMRick: all this time I thought you were a guy!! Sorry!

 

[DMRick]

Totally off-topic- DMRick: all this time I thought you were a guy!! Sorry!

I know, the Rick throws people. I can't imagine too many men interested in J & K. My husband won't even watch it. He says it's too noisy, he likes to watch TV to relax LOL. Before I lost my FTP, people recognized me by my grandson enjoying a Kitchen Sink at Disney and my NY fireman postcard.

 

[JennaTX]

Why does everyone assume that if they divorce that Jon would not have himself and the kids in the media and that it would only be Kate?

How would either of them at this point support the kids and two households without some type of media? Not saying this is right, but it seems to be where it has gotten...neither has held down a "normal" job for a few years.

 

[Goobergal99]

Been readng the thread and watching the show for a long while now and I could never, ever stand Kate... no involvement with the parents, alienates people in her life, treats John as if he is one of her 8 kids. I can't say I feel sorry for her, I'm not saying it was right for him to cheat but she is pretty darn millitant.

I feel sorry for the poor kids, they have a control freak of a mother and a wuss of a father (sorry but the way he allows her to treat him is pathetic) it's no wonder she has no repect for him. Oh and that Maddy with her fresh mouth.... hmmmm I can only wonder how crazy Kate handles that one behind the scenes

 

[Goobergal99]

My favorite line:

Jon: "We took the kids to a pool party last weekend."
Kate: "NO JON! It was a pool and then other kids came and we had fun together. It wasn't a pool par-tee. Men!"

Yea.... I want to go through the TV at her when she starts correcting him in front of the camera... classic

 

[1stluvispooh]

I hear woman talk to their husbands all the time like that. I know I occasionally catch myself treating DH like one of my kids. Just the other day he was going to take the dogs outside and I HATE when he does because I don't think he watches them well enough. So I said, "don't take them out front!" he said, "why?" then I realized how bossy I was being and I said, "you can take them out front if you want.....you are a grown man and you can do what you want".

I think we can all relate to something DH does that we don't agree with. In my house it's the whole I don't think DH sees what this means down the road. Like the infamous teaching the 1 year old to throw pebbles onto the pool cover Yes he did and yes DS threw rocks in the pool until the day we moved from that house!

 

[1stluvispooh]

I do wonder if that is what TLC wants us to see. I would prob have said to my husband, they are wearing the red dresses, please put in the red bows. I used to wonder, did Kate tell or ask him to put certain bows on, and he just didn't listen, and all TLC showed us was the shrew part? If she had already told him, and he did it how she wanted, would the show not have been as interesting, or more "Father know's Best" and how boring would that be in these times? Or, had they discussed that she will clean up the kitchen mess, while he feeds them, but all we saw was him wandering, and her telling him to feed them, by the third time, not so nicely? I know that after I would ask politely something of my husband, by the third or fourth time, I might not have been so nice (and with three kids, sometimes I just wasn't so polite). I used to wonder..does the man even hear me. After 40 years of marriage I can honestly say nope, back then, he really didn't LOL. I just wonder, what would we see, if there was no cutting room. That I would like to see for sure.

Even the promo's. Are we seeing just some of it, the parts that will make us tune in? I can't wait for Monday to see just what they are letting us in to see.

You know I use to think that but the more the reports from "other sources" mention that in your words a shrew. (good word by the way)

 

[newtodis]

GMA talked about J&K+8 again this morning. Nothing new really, just the promo for the show and talking to another family with sexuplets.

http://abcnews.go.com/gma

Currently it's the third story on the right side of the screen. Click on the title (Jon and Kate Marriage Questions) and the video will play from this morning's show.

 

[talulabelle]

Has anyone ever seen Kate smile? Or look at all happy? Except for the photo shoot pictures taken by TLC (where Kate and Jon are beeming and the kids all look downtrodden and sad and bewildered and tired) I have never seen a smile on her face. On the show, if she is not being a beast she usually just looks extremely focused, but not happy. I have never seen her climb into one of their beds and read with them or snuggle. Sometimes it shows her pass a child and say hi to them and keep going, and the camera focuses in on what the kids is dong nad it is the cutest thing...but Kate doesn't seems to notice and just keeps going. It seems she never stops to enjoy them. It is so sad. Like when Hannah ws tiny and folding a basket of towels for the folding neighbor (not Kate mind you, but the volunteer neighbor that came to fold and Kate would just drag the baskets of laundry in for her and not help and just act like the lady owed her something) and she was sitting there so cute. I couldn't have walked past that. I would have stopped and taken picutes and gobbled her up.

 

[madge]

Why does everyone assume that if they divorce that Jon would not have himself and the kids in the media and that it would only be Kate?

since Jon has been quoted (more or less) saying he doesn't really enjoy doing the show, or doesn't like what's happened as a result of the show ... and Kate has repeatedly insisted she has no intention of giving up what's she's doing, that she LOVES what she's doing ... I think that it's a pretty safe assumption to make.

How would either of them at this point support the kids and two households without some type of media? Not saying this is right, but it seems to be where it has gotten...neither has held down a "normal" job for a few years.

1. they have earned a substantial amount of money in the last two years. hopefully, they haven't spent it all .. and could live off that while they get their acts together. Of course, It wouldn't be the same standard of living they've become accustomed to now.

2. many large families get by without a TV show, book deals, public speaking, etc.

3. just because Jon & Kate have been on television for a couple of years, that doesn't mean they're not exempt from getting "normal jobs". That's not to say that it wouldn't be difficult. I've never believed that they could drop the show and Kate could walk back into a hospital the next day and be a nurse again.

 

[talulabelle]

I wanted to post yesterday to something I read here, but I didn't have time...but someone said, "why is Kate such a hero? lots of mothers have or have had more than 8 kids and so fine without all the free stuff." and then someone else argued that the big difference was they were all the same age, and that made a huge difference.

I just wanted to say that yes, it makes a huge difference. It is HUGELY easier!!! (Not when they were infants, when they were infants, that would just be nuts, and you would need a team of help) but once they are potty trained, I'm sorry, but is is so much easier! I have a friend with multiples, and she admits it. She has quads and she has 1/4 the birthday parties, 1/4 the amount of class parties, band concerts at school, 1/4 the SPORTS ACTIVITIES (they are all on the same team) then other mothers with 4 kids of different ages. She has so much more time now! All her kids are in one school, so she doesn't have the 3 different school calendars running that I have. It is easier! All the kids are at the same place at the same time. Once she ptty trained, she was done, no need to revist that every couple of years. And as far as meals- once you are cooking setting a few more places ,really doean't make a difference. And who are they kiddingat this point anyway? Kate is never at home anyway....she is not the beleagered stay home mom that is doing everything. I just can't believe that there is anyone left in America, that beleives this farse.

 

[MichelleVW]

Has anyone ever seen Kate smile? Or look at all happy? Except for the photo shoot pictures taken by TLC (where Kate and Jon are beeming and the kids all look downtrodden and sad and bewildered and tired) I have never seen a smile on her face. On the show, if she is not being a beast she usually just looks extremely focused, but not happy. I have never seen her climb into one of their beds and read with them or snuggle. Sometimes it shows her pass a child and say hi to them and keep going, and the camera focuses in on what the kids is dong nad it is the cutest thing...but Kate doesn't seems to notice and just keeps going. It seems she never stops to enjoy them. It is so sad. Like when Hannah ws tiny and folding a basket of towels for the folding neighbor (not Kate mind you, but the volunteer neighbor that came to fold and Kate would just drag the baskets of laundry in for her and not help and just act like the lady owed her something) and she was sitting there so cute. I couldn't have walked past that. I would have stopped and taken picutes and gobbled her up.

Yep...I think it was in Hawaii and one of the little girls, (I think it was Leah) was swimming and Kate was so excited and happy for her. I'm sure there are more moments like that but the shrew like behavior gets more ratings.


I would have too...but I only have 2 kids to take care of, not 8. Plus, it was on film already she didn't need to take a picture!

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

Off-topic...

MICKEY4EVER your DS is soooo cute. I'm checking out your trip report and he is just darling.

THANK YOU!!!!! That is so sweet of you to say!

I hope you enjoy the TR. I was ready to snatch my hair out by the end of the trip, LOL!

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

sorry we fooled ya, but we never meant to hurt anyone's feelings!

No harm done on my end. I can take a joke.

 

[1stluvispooh]

since Jon has been quoted (more or less) saying he doesn't really enjoy doing the show, or doesn't like what's happened as a result of the show ... and Kate has repeatedly insisted she has no intention of giving up what's she's doing, that she LOVES what she's doing ... I think that it's a pretty safe assumption to make.



1. they have earned a substantial amount of money in the last two years. hopefully, they haven't spent it all .. and could live off that while they get their acts together. Of course, It wouldn't be the same standard of living they've become accustomed to now.

2. many large families get by without a TV show, book deals, public speaking, etc.

3. just because Jon & Kate have been on television for a couple of years, that doesn't mean they're not exempt from getting "normal jobs". That's not to say that it wouldn't be difficult. I've never believed that they could drop the show and Kate could walk back into a hospital the next day and be a nurse again.

I agree with you on the job thing. They are always looking for nurses and if memory serves me right Becky Dilly is a nurse and she went back to work and her hubby was the stay at home parent. ( Oh wait sorry Kate doesn't talk about other families with multiples) Also what happened to Jon's job with Bob??? I get the feeling Jon quit but why??? Was he pressured by Kate to quit because she could then travel more on book deals and speaking engagements. It wouldn't surprise me if she didn't pressure him into quitting.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

I have seen Kate smile or laugh with her children many times. Although, it seems with each "season" that is shown less and less. They both seemed happier in the beginning.

 

[tyedye]

Does anyone know when the first episode for the new season was filmed? I guess they could edit stuff in if they wanted to at the last minute.

I saw the GMA segment on them this morning and the preview they showed to me was alot like the last show of last season. It seemed like they might make some announcement at the end of last season but then it didn't happen, it's all in the editing.