Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 3

[DWGal210]

I think the only good that can come out of this is that it's cautionary tale of how fame and money can alter people and their relationships.

Also, do all of you think they would they still have had problems even if they had never done the show?? Very possible - raising 8 young children would certainly be a challenge in any relationship.

In regards to the photos of her and the bodyguard - two things that came to mind right away:

1) If she is wanting to dodge rumors about her and this guy, why is she still being filmed with him all over the place???!! I KNOW she is doing a book tour, etc, but to me, if she was really serious about people leaving them alone during this difficult time and letting them come to grips with what's going on, she would retreat home and lay low for a while, not traipse about the airport and give People magazine exclusive interviews.

2) Dressing in a cute skirt, bright top and large white sunglasses does not seem to me the attire of a woman who claims to want people to leave her alone. That outfit screams "take my picture!". You can't have it both ways, Kate....either you want the $$$ and fame and all that comes with it or you don't and you want to live your life as quietly as you can with your family. Make a decision.

As an aside - I think I know now why Mady appears to be such a brat. If these are the types of shenanigans that have been going on at her house, no wonder she acts out on camera - that little girl is dying for attention AND seeing her parents bicker on national TV and in this current media blitz. So sad.

 

[Epcot luvr]

I just posted recently on this thread and am not a troll, just to clear any questions regarding trollips,lol.
Aunt Jodie on Radar online well there you have it case closed for me. Aunt Jodie looks beautiful, IMOP . I would love to hear Nancy Grace's thoughts on all of this bet she would have a few choice words.

 

[MM27]

With all of these things coming out every day, I am very curious what the kids know and how they are coping. The first one I thought about was Hannah. Here's a girl that was always on mommy's hip and now mommy is suddenly missing. How do you explain that to a 5 year old?

I can't wait to get my People magazine this week with the big Kate interview.

 

[DWGal210]

Oh and one more thought: Below is a quote from People magazine online:

"Kate does have hope, however, that her marriage can be saved. "I will never give up hope that every member of our family can be absolutely happy again," she says."

If you REALLY have hope that your family can be happy and your marriage can be saved, why on GOD's GREEN EARTH would do you an interview with a national magazine where you tell them your marriage is falling apart??!!

Makes zero sense to me.

 

[amid chaos]

Is the bodyguard married? I believe I heard somewhere that he was. Now, if I were HIS wife, I'd say quit your job and get your butt home.

 

[Tikitoi]

Another marriage killed by the greed of reality tv. This is really sad if that is what's happening. Especially, too if kate is jumping in on things, as far as dating outside the marriage. I mean, how do you make time for all that with 8kids? It is coming to light the greed and selfishness of both these parents and neither putting the kids interest first.

 

[talulabelle]

Oh and one more thought: Below is a quote from People magazine online:

"Kate does have hope, however, that her marriage can be saved. "I will never give up hope that every member of our family can be absolutely happy again," she says."

If you REALLY have hope that your family can be happy and your marriage can be saved, why on GOD's GREEN EARTH would do you an interview with a national magazine where you tell them your marriage is falling apart??!!

Makes zero sense to me.

I think that is just symantics again. Like when she said "I choose happiness" in the other interview, she didn't say "I choose to fight to save my marriage" who knows what her happiness is she is talking about choosing? Could be her bodyguard, could be being single, could be money. I doubt she meant Jon.

THis time THE MAGAZINE and not Kate said she has hope her marriage can be saved. Kate didn't say that. Kate said "I will never give up hope that every member of our family can be absolutely happy again" Sure they could all be happy again. With Kate with Mr. Grey, and Jon dirty dancing with floozies in bars, and the kids in thereapy and going home to nannies. Sure they can all be happy again.

Again sound an awlful lot to me like "I did not have sexual relations with that woman....."

 

[talulabelle]

Is the bodyguard married? I believe I heard somewhere that he was. Now, if I were HIS wife, I'd say quit your job and get your butt home.

Oh my goodness! I think the same thing. I would be like Hello??!!! Time to show where your loyalties lie!!!!!!!

 

[lacrosse_lady72]

I think the only good that can come out of this is that it's cautionary tale of how fame and money can alter people and their relationships.

Also, do all of you think they would they still have had problems even if they had never done the show?? Very possible - raising 8 young children would certainly be a challenge in any relationship.

In regards to the photos of her and the bodyguard - two things that came to mind right away:

1) If she is wanting to dodge rumors about her and this guy, why is she still being filmed with him all over the place???!! I KNOW she is doing a book tour, etc, but to me, if she was really serious about people leaving them alone during this difficult time and letting them come to grips with what's going on, she would retreat home and lay low for a while, not traipse about the airport and give People magazine exclusive interviews.

2) Dressing in a cute skirt, bright top and large white sunglasses does not seem to me the attire of a woman who claims to want people to leave her alone. That outfit screams "take my picture!". You can't have it both ways, Kate....either you want the $$$ and fame and all that comes with it or you don't and you want to live your life as quietly as you can with your family. Make a decision.

As an aside - I think I know now why Mady appears to be such a brat. If these are the types of shenanigans that have been going on at her house, no wonder she acts out on camera - that little girl is dying for attention AND seeing her parents bicker on national TV and in this current media blitz. So sad.

That's kind of like asking why your gardner is in the garden. Bodyguards are paid to be around all the time in public and protect you. It's ashame though, she really should have hired a prettier body guard... if affair rumors are true, I definitely think Jon won in that department.

 

[lacrosse_lady72]

I really wish they would just quit all of this. Finish out their 5th season, live off book profits and show cindication, move on, get a therapist, work things out, take care of those children and bring them back to a more stable situation.

For 5 & 8 year olds they have already done a lot in life and I am sure there will be more to come.




At least the kids have each other, that's all that matters at this point.

 

[Epcot luvr]

I tend to disagree. Ever since Jodi's sister Julie came out with her blog (which has been updated with some of her older posts. Very enlightening to re-read them all these months later), there has been pressure/expectation/hope that Kevin and Jodi would tell their story. And now they have.

Jon gave an interview in Utah and mentioned he still talks to Kevin and Bob. Sounds like that could very well be true. IMO, this is beginning to sound more and more like Kate vs. everyone else. I also think there's still more information to come.



Kevin and Jodi may have had the rest of the family's blessing. If Kate cut them off all these months ago, then what do they have to lose?

Madge, ITA, Aunt Jodie did so much for them and she always remained quiet. I think Jon going to her house six months ago saying his wife is cheating and her keeping quiet for so long speaks volumes. Can you imagine how desperate he must have felt to go to his wife's estranged brother for help. From what Aunt Jodie said kate wants her own talk show, sounds like her ego is just out of control and someone somehow needed to stop it all. guess I should have said kate "wanted" a talkshow.

 

[talulabelle]

Madge, ITA, Aunt Jodie did so much for them and she always remained quiet. I think Jon going to her house six months ago saying his wife is cheating and her keeping quiet for so long speaks volumes. Can you imagine how desperate he must have felt to go to his wife's estranged brother for help. From what Aunt Jodie said kate wants her own talk show, sounds like her ego is just out of control and someone somehow needed to stop it all.

Well, um, you know, um, (mouth agape, vacant look) I don't think we um, you know, have to worry about um um, her you know, getting a talk show, um of all you know , things.

Yeah, this needs to all end so she can do an ego check. With the marriage falling apart, and all of us knowing it is just impossible to force these kids to do this show much longer, Maddy and Cara will soon realize that all they have to do is say "mommy makes us do it" and it will be over (however it is ironic that that has not worked for Jon) - she has been envisioning what her next "career" would be, and it is not staying home with 8 kids that need to be driven places and have attitudes.

 

[Epcot luvr]

Well, um, you know, um, (mouth agape, vacant look) I don't think we um, you know, have to worry about um um, her you know, getting a talk show, um of all you know , things.

Yeah, this needs to all end so she can do an ego check. With the marriage falling apart, and all of us knowing it is just impossible to force these kids to do this show much longer, Maddy and Cara will soon realize that all they have to do is say "mommy makes us do it" and it will be over (however it is ironic that that has not worked for Jon) - she has been envisioning what her next "career" would be, and it is not staying home with 8 kids that need to be driven places and have attitudes.

Talulabelle you made me laugh. I guess that talk show is scratched, maybe an appearance on VH1's The Surreal life is more likely in the cards for Kate.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

1) If she is wanting to dodge rumors about her and this guy, why is she still being filmed with him all over the place???!! I KNOW she is doing a book tour, etc, but to me, if she was really serious about people leaving them alone during this difficult time and letting them come to grips with what's going on, she would retreat home and lay low for a while, not traipse about the airport and give People magazine exclusive interviews.

The flip side to that is: if Kate suddenly didn't have bodyguard with her then people would say that his suddenly not being around proves that they had an affair. Sometimes either way you go...you are doomed.

 

[katieam1]

Kevin and Jodi video. Man this is so sad.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...-shocker-her-brother-says-their-marriage-over

I wondered why all the old crew left, I guess now we know. I think a lot of them went to the Duggar show.

Wow! That is interesting! I just think the whole situation is sad! I am suprised that some out there have not started a team Jon or team Kate items yet...like T-shirts!

I watched the video and it looked like it bothered them to talk about this. maybe they did it because they can not talk to Kate other wise. If Kate follows the media storm maybe they figured that she would hear them this way. If Jon still talks to them then that kind of speaks volumes. Maybe they are really that worried about the whole situation and want to get to Kate some way since it seems like she wrote them off. Very sad! I really liked this family, I stopped watching most of the time since season 3 but i never thought it would be like this.

I hope they do have those kids interest in heart and (even if they do not make it) they will work it out for those kids and at least be better towards each other for them. Very sad situation all around. It is never easy when a family breaks up and it probably will be even worse for them because they are so much in the public eye. Very sad!

 

[Nik's Mom]

First, I'm not a troll, but I have read this and the previous Jon and Kate thread. I just think this entire mess is very sad. I stopped watching last season because I felt like I was witnessing a train wreck. Kate was often verbally abusive to Jon and he allowed himself to be a door-mat. I felt they were setting bad examples for their children.

Now we have this whole infidelity mess. I really feel for those poor kids. This just goes to show that you can have the money, dream house, trips, fancy clothes, and the list goes on and on. But NONE of those things will give you true happiness. I really hope that this show ends now and that the couple can divorce, move on with their lives and bring the focus back to the welfare of the children. I also think that Jon needs therapy because he must have low self-esteem to allow someone to talk to him that way. And Kate needs therapy for what I think are obvious reasons.

 

[DMRick]

Oh my goodness! I think the same thing. I would be like Hello??!!! Time to show where your loyalties lie!!!!!!!

His wife has spoken out. She said it is not true, that both she and her husband are friends with Kate and Jon.

I don't know what to think of Jodi and Kate's brother speaking out at this time. Maybe the money was good, maybe they are still mad because they couldn't get paid, maybe they are thinking of the kids, maybe they didn't want to miss an opportunity. After all, once the show is dead, anything they have to say won't be worth much. I just don't know. They did seem to hesitate a lot during the interview..maybe because they were embellishing? Or maybe because they knew in their hearts this wasn't up to them to say...something told to them in confidence. I also don't know if they have friends that aren't involved with the show, or if they still see their families but choose to keep them out of the show.
I really don't know what has happened between Kate and her family, just like I don't know why some on the dis no longer speak totheir family's. Maybe there is good reason. Maybe there is jealousy over the wealth they are accumulating. So much guessing, so little known.
One thing I do find interesting, is Jodi and Kevin talking about how much they fought. Not Kate, but the two of them. Maybe Jon wasn't so mealy mouth. Maybe he is like some abusive husbands, where they know when to show their hand. If Jon keeps quiet on the show, we'll all think he's abused and she's the bad person. She's already being blamed because he supposedly cheated.

 

[jpaxton1118]

I have posted a few times, but mostly just read everything because people were already said what I wanted to say, but I think I want to put my 2 cents in now.

How do we not know that Jon was in on the whole Jodi and Kevin thing. They kept saying that they know he was not doing what is right but... It could have been a way that all three of them were trying to get Kate's attention.

And Jon as a silent abuser, please. She married someone that was a few years younger then her that had no life experience and she was able to dominate him and now that maybe changing. Maybe he is getting older and standing up for himself. I don't think him having an affair was right, but an abuser. I dont think so.

And just so I can say it, the hair has to go!!!

And please excuse my spelling and if I messed words up, I have been up with sick kids for six days now and I am a little tired

 

[katieam1]

I have posted a few times, but mostly just read everything because people were already said what I wanted to say, but I think I want to put my 2 cents in now.

How do we not know that Jon was in on the whole Jodi and Kevin thing. They kept saying that they know he was not doing what is right but... It could have been a way that all three of them were trying to get Kate's attention.

And Jon as a silent abuser, please. She married someone that was a few years younger then her that had no life experience and she was able to dominate him and now that maybe changing. Maybe he is getting older and standing up for himself. I don't think him having an affair was right, but an abuser. I dont think so.

And just so I can say it, the hair has to go!!!

I totally agree with you! I also wondered if maybe Jon was in on the Jodi and Kevin thing as well. Maybe he wants to have his side out with out saying it himself, maybe he feels because people already think of him as a cheater and anything he may say may make him look worse. Maybe he enlisted some friends to speak out to give both sides? I am sure more will come out!! But I am sure no one will ever know.

As far as the wife of the body guard....maybe she doesn't know or doesn't believe it. I have to give a personal story! My husband's parents are divorced now after 25 years of marriage. Both sides cheated! But my husband's mother was great friends with her now boyfriends wife. The wife did not think her husband would ever do that and did not believe it until she caught them herself. So sometimes people just don't know!

Not that I am saying Kate cheated but we don't really know it is not true either!!

 

[jpaxton1118]

Also, I don't think anyone is blaming her for his affair. They are blaming her for being a bad wife and mom. I would never talk to my husband like that on tv and he would not do that to me either. We have to much respect for each other.
Like it has been said, they need to stop the show and work on their marriage, if that is what they want. If not then go file the divorce papers. They are both at fault. IMO