Jon and Kate non bash post

[happygirl]

That is what I thought also. I did not really understand why they did it. And I really do not need to see that girls brother again. I can't believe they asked him to take them to her bedroom. I think that is just sick.

I wish him and Jodi and Kevin they would all take a long walk off a short plank

 

[jpaxton1118]

I wish him and Jodi and Kevin they would all take a long walk off a short plank

I agree. I saw him come on the tv and I just thought, they have nothing new. The guy is telling Jon is he is going to cheat to do it better so he does not get caught. That is just sad and what is sadder is that their kids are going to see this guy talking about their father for money(not that Jon is right or wrong in this situation I am not bashing him or Kate)

I really hope that they are going to work on their marriage for the kids. I am a child of divorce and a messy one at that and I can not imagine if all my friends could see what was going on in my home on tv.

 

[Dr_Finkelstein]

That is what I thought also. I did not really understand why they did it. And I really do not need to see that girls brother again. I can't believe they asked him to take them to her bedroom. I think that is just sick.

Eww! That's just icky! I wonder just how much of the strain in the marriage is caused by all the speculation - it must be so difficult if you were trying to work together to make your marriage work to have all these unsubstantiated rumours reported as if they were "fact".

Di x

 

[happygirl]

Eww! That's just icky! I wonder just how much of the strain in the marriage is caused by all the speculation - it must be so difficult if you were trying to work together to make your marriage work to have all these unsubstantiated rumours reported as if they were "fact".

Di x

I saw somewhere that they celebrated there anniversary together. They had family photos done. That seems weird to me for a couple that are supposed to be divoricing

 

[Buckalew11]

I think Jon needs to check back in.

I remember watching the renewal ceremony and how Kate's vows were a bit about being kinder to him etc. I think she did realize that she was rude and condescending to him and wanted to try to do better. Old habits are hard to break and he'd have to be on board with it and man up, so to speak. He'd just really need to decide he didn't want to be treated or talked to like that and call her on it.
I think, if she wants to save her marriage, she could honestly do it.

I think it allmay have started out as more playful--cut downs and quips and it was part of how they communicated and go a long. Then, of course, it grew nastier--not just Kate but Jon too. He could be equally ugly to her. They'd both need to do better.

I think seeing so much of the nastiness over and over (like on YouTube etc. and then The Soup and stuff done by SNL) PLUS people probably calling him on taking it from his shrew of a wife, probably just really got to him and suddenly he saw it for what it was and was feeling very small as a man--no outside job (which seems to be important for a man's self esteem/identity) and being somewhat henpecked and "brow-beaten"--all got to him and caused him to seek chnage in a bad way.

I think Jon handled it wrong and should have sat Kate down and and told her, then got individula and couples counseling (after all, they have access to probably anyone in the busineess and MHO is they should seek Christian counseling). instead, he rebeled. He has 8 children to love and raise. He needs to think about them and deal with this differently instead of totally checking out.
Unless Kate is finished with him and wants the marriage to end with no doubts that it could be saved, I think this type plan could have worked for them.

As Christians, they need to rethink their roles in this marriage, go back to the basics about how a marriage is supposed to be and work on it with all their might. Cutting one's DH down is NOT what is taught Biblically. Rebeling and stepping out (or looking like you are) is not what is taught Biblically for a DH either. I really wish they'd get with some very good christian counselor and work hard to save their marriage--but that is my wish for them and those sweet kids--it may not be thier wish...

People can change and as quickly as they think they did this change, they could change back and even change more than before. I have not seen the video of Kate being quite broken down but I think if true and sincere, she probably has had the rug pulled out from under her and if it was her heart's wish, could treat Jon better as long as he was on board also.
Marriage go through terrible times sometimes. 3 years into mine I was ready to walk out the door. No affairs and no disrespect, but other problems and I was not ever fully dedicated to my marriage from wedding until the night I almost left. That night, it all changed for me and while it took work, we have been together 22 years. People can change and grow up, thank God. I did a lot of growing up, for sure.

Anyway, that is my long and drawn out thoughts on JK8 today. I just really wish they could save their marriage.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

As Christians, they need to rethink their roles in this marriage, go back to the basics about how a marriage is supposed to be and work on it with all their might. Cutting one's DH down is NOT what is taught Biblically. Rebeling and stepping out (or looking like you are) is not what is taught Biblically for a DH either. I really wish they'd get with some very good christian counselor and work hard to save their marriage--but that is my wish for them and those sweet kids--it may not be thier wish...

That is my wish too.

Congratulations to you on 22 yrs. together.

 

[happygirl]

I think Jon needs to check back in.

I remember watching the renewal ceremony and how Kate's vows were a bit about being kinder to him etc. I think she did realize that she was rude and condescending to him and wanted to try to do better. Old habits are hard to break and he'd have to be on board with it and man up, so to speak. He'd just really need to decide he didn't want to be treated or talked to like that and call her on it.
I think, if she wants to save her marriage, she could honestly do it.

I think it allmay have started out as more playful--cut downs and quips and it was part of how they communicated and go a long. Then, of course, it grew nastier--not just Kate but Jon too. He could be equally ugly to her. They'd both need to do better.

I think seeing so much of the nastiness over and over (like on YouTube etc. and then The Soup and stuff done by SNL) PLUS people probably calling him on taking it from his shrew of a wife, probably just really got to him and suddenly he saw it for what it was and was feeling very small as a man--no outside job (which seems to be important for a man's self esteem/identity) and being somewhat henpecked and "brow-beaten"--all got to him and caused him to seek chnage in a bad way.

I think Jon handled it wrong and should have sat Kate down and and told her, then got individula and couples counseling (after all, they have access to probably anyone in the busineess and MHO is they should seek Christian counseling). instead, he rebeled. He has 8 children to love and raise. He needs to think about them and deal with this differently instead of totally checking out.
Unless Kate is finished with him and wants the marriage to end with no doubts that it could be saved, I think this type plan could have worked for them.

As Christians, they need to rethink their roles in this marriage, go back to the basics about how a marriage is supposed to be and work on it with all their might. Cutting one's DH down is NOT what is taught Biblically. Rebeling and stepping out (or looking like you are) is not what is taught Biblically for a DH either. I really wish they'd get with some very good christian counselor and work hard to save their marriage--but that is my wish for them and those sweet kids--it may not be thier wish...

People can change and as quickly as they think they did this change, they could change back and even change more than before. I have not seen the video of Kate being quite broken down but I think if true and sincere, she probably has had the rug pulled out from under her and if it was her heart's wish, could treat Jon better as long as he was on board also.
Marriage go through terrible times sometimes. 3 years into mine I was ready to walk out the door. No affairs and no disrespect, but other problems and I was not ever fully dedicated to my marriage from wedding until the night I almost left. That night, it all changed for me and while it took work, we have been together 22 years. People can change and grow up, thank God. I did a lot of growing up, for sure.

Anyway, that is my long and drawn out thoughts on JK8 today. I just really wish they could save their marriage.

Very nice post

 

[DMRick]

I think Jon needs to check back in.

I remember watching the renewal ceremony and how Kate's vows were a bit about being kinder to him etc. I think she did realize that she was rude and condescending to him and wanted to try to do better. Old habits are hard to break and he'd have to be on board with it and man up, so to speak. He'd just really need to decide he didn't want to be treated or talked to like that and call her on it.
I think, if she wants to save her marriage, she could honestly do it..

This is one of the nicest posts I've seen. It's nice to see the marriage discussed without capitals saying.."end the show". LIke that will cure all the ills. Of course if that would make a difference in their marriage then they would need to do what is best for all of them (talking about ending the show).
Thanks.
Doris

 

[happygirl]

This is one of the nicest posts I've seen. It's nice to see the marriage discussed without capitals saying.."end the show". LIke that will cure all the ills. Of course if that would make a difference in their marriage then they would need to do what is best for all of them (talking about ending the show).
Thanks.
Doris

I don't think ending the show is going to make the press hounds go away anytime soon. In fact I think it will make it worse people will want to know what is going on with them.

 

[Pooh93]

I have not been involved in the show since the beginning, but my 13 yr old dd watches it and I have been pulled into some of it by reading the posts on this board and other boards.

As in any marriage,it takes 2 to make it work and 2 to destroy it. I truly hope for their kids sake they have sense enough at this point to go to counseling and try to restore what they once had. If they don't, then I think they are both truly selfish. I think the general public is as much off the deep end as the 2 of them are. The different message boards I have read are just down right vicious and it blows my mind that we are a society that loves to destroy people we don't even know. People act as though she should be lynched and don't know the "real her." They act like she is the devil or something.

Yes, Kate is militant about the kids schedules, clothes etc. I know she has help, but if I had 6 small kids, I'd probably put bibs/cover ups on them when eating so I didn't have to get stains out of 6 outfits multiplied by 3 meals a day. As far as her being dressed up, hair fixed etc., if she didn't do it, people would be blasting her saying "she has all of that money and dresses like that?" It's a no win situation for her in that regard.

Jon seems like a nice guy, but needs to get his act together. He seems passive aggressive to me, like he's okay with being in the background, but when it comes time to getting down to business and get things done,he doesn't move and then she gets frustrated and the nastiness begins. From what little I have seen of the show, he gets his digs, snide looks into her also.

At the end of the day, their life doesn't affect mine one way or the other what they do. However, I would like to believe that if what they say is true and they want the paparazzi to go away and all of the other media attention, they won't announce a divorce television. I think that would be one of the tackiest things ever seen.

Buckalew's comments were much more eloquent than mine! I hope this does not sound like bashing because that is not my intent. Only throwing out my .02 and I'll go back to my cyber corner now!!

 

[happygirl]

I have not been involved in the show since the beginning, but my 13 yr old dd watches it and I have been pulled into some of it by reading the posts on this board and other boards.

As in any marriage,it takes 2 to make it work and 2 to destroy it. I truly hope for their kids sake they have sense enough at this point to go to counseling and try to restore what they once had. If they don't, then I think they are both truly selfish. I think the general public is as much off the deep end as the 2 of them are. The different message boards I have read are just down right vicious and it blows my mind that we are a society that loves to destroy people we don't even know. People act as though she should be lynched and don't know the "real her." They act like she is the devil or something.

Yes, Kate is militant about the kids schedules, clothes etc. I know she has help, but if I had 6 small kids, I'd probably put bibs/cover ups on them when eating so I didn't have to get stains out of 6 outfits multiplied by 3 meals a day. As far as her being dressed up, hair fixed etc., if she didn't do it, people would be blasting her saying "she has all of that money and dresses like that?" It's a no win situation for her in that regard.

Jon seems like a nice guy, but needs to get his act together. He seems passive aggressive to me, like he's okay with being in the background, but when it comes time to getting down to business and get things done,he doesn't move and then she gets frustrated and the nastiness begins. From what little I have seen of the show, he gets his digs, snide looks into her also.

At the end of the day, their life doesn't affect mine one way or the other what they do. However, I would like to believe that if what they say is true and they want the paparazzi to go away and all of the other media attention, they won't announce a divorce television. I think that would be one of the tackiest things ever seen.

Buckalew's comments were much more eloquent than mine! I hope this does not sound like bashing because that is not my intent. Only throwing out my .02 and I'll go back to my cyber corner now!!

 

[DMRick]

Another good one


I don't get the bashing and judging either. The funny thing to me is, a lot of those doing the most bashing don't think they are. They seem to think that they know all about the show and K & J, and that if K & J would just listen to them, none of this would have happened, or it could be fixed. They think they are helping. Of course J & K aren't reading these Dis boards in any case, so all any of us are doing, is just talking to each other LOL. Ah, if only all our lives were that easy..just have someone who doesn't even know us (and even some who may have had similar lives, divorce (their own or parents), family not speaking to them, kids that throw temper trantrums, pretty much all that is going on in J & K's lives right now, etc), tell us how to fix it so everything is good again.

I have not been involved in the show since the beginning, but my 13 yr old dd watches it and I have been pulled into some of it by reading the posts on this board and other boards.

As in any marriage,it takes 2 to make it work and 2 to destroy it. I truly hope for their kids sake they have sense enough at this point to go to counseling and try to restore what they once had. If they don't, then I think they are both truly selfish. I think the general public is as much off the deep end as the 2 of them are. The different message boards I have read are just down right vicious and it blows my mind that we are a society that loves to destroy people we don't even know. People act as though she should be lynched and don't know the "real her." They act like she is the devil or something.

Yes, Kate is militant about the kids schedules, clothes etc. I know she has help, but if I had 6 small kids, I'd probably put bibs/cover ups on them when eating so I didn't have to get stains out of 6 outfits multiplied by 3 meals a day. As far as her being dressed up, hair fixed etc., if she didn't do it, people would be blasting her saying "she has all of that money and dresses like that?" It's a no win situation for her in that regard.

Jon seems like a nice guy, but needs to get his act together. He seems passive aggressive to me, like he's okay with being in the background, but when it comes time to getting down to business and get things done,he doesn't move and then she gets frustrated and the nastiness begins. From what little I have seen of the show, he gets his digs, snide looks into her also.

At the end of the day, their life doesn't affect mine one way or the other what they do. However, I would like to believe that if what they say is true and they want the paparazzi to go away and all of the other media attention, they won't announce a divorce television. I think that would be one of the tackiest things ever seen.

Buckalew's comments were much more eloquent than mine! I hope this does not sound like bashing because that is not my intent. Only throwing out my .02 and I'll go back to my cyber corner now!!

 

[AlleyKat]

That is what I thought also. I did not really understand why they did it. And I really do not need to see that girls brother again. I can't believe they asked him to take them to her bedroom. I think that is just sick.

What is the above referring to?

 

[happygirl]

What is the above referring to?

the E special on Jon and Kate

 

[AlleyKat]

the E special on Jon and Kate

When was it on?

 

[happygirl]

When was it on?

I saw it yesterday I'm sure it will be on a hundred more times lol.

 

[AlleyKat]

I saw it yesterday I'm sure it will be on a hundred more times lol.

I'll settle for one!

 

[happygirl]

I'll settle for one!

If you don't see it you aren't missing anything lol. Esp if you saw the first show they did, It really a recap of that one

 

[Buckeye Gal]

...I remember watching the renewal ceremony and how Kate's vows were a bit about being kinder to him etc. I think she did realize that she was rude and condescending to him and wanted to try to do better. Old habits are hard to break and he'd have to be on board with it and man up, so to speak. He'd just really need to decide he didn't want to be treated or talked to like that and call her on it.
I think, if she wants to save her marriage, she could honestly do it.....

I have to agree with you about the vow renewal. When I saw the ceremony, I thought it was extremely odd that they were having a vow renewal on an "any ole calendar day", meaning not on a anniversary or moreover on a milestone anniversary. As we've seen them both state, in their own words, things have been challenging in their marriage for some time, I think that may be exactly why they had their vows renewed last year. I believe they wanted to recommit to their marriage.

Although there are some reports that Kate has seen a divorce attorney and there's speculation that this coming week (after Monday's show) they will be filing for divorce, I sincerely hope that they can and will continue working on their marriage. Perhaps a legal separation is the just cause of her seeing a lawyer. We can all speculate, but they know what's best for them and their family.

As someone previously stated, having the show cancelled isn't going to make the media have less interest; however, it would allow them to live their lives without a camera in their own home, which at this point would only be a good thing, imho. Regardless of what's going on, the family members need to heal. So if it's a divorce or separation, I still would like to see them somehow break their contract and call the show quits. Easier said than done on many levels, no doubt.

Whatever will be announced, I'm certain that this past week they've had to sit the kids down and prepare them for the life-altering decisions being made and soon publically announced. That makes me sad to think about.

 

[marivaid]

I really hope they're not divorcing. But, I could deal with not seeing Jon for a few months. He used to be my favorite of the two, but lately he's getting on my nerves big time. He's changed so much, physically and mentally. Between the attitude and the clothes, it's like he's going through his mid-life crisis 10 years early.