Jodi Arias Trial Part 8 EXTREME CRUELTY: PROVEN

[Uncle Remus]

Per Beth Karas: The defense attorneys moved to withdraw from the case after the guilty verdict. The judge denied it. We do not know the basis for the defense motion. #jodiarias

Here's the motion:

Discussion held regarding media interviews with the Defendant.
IT
IS ORDERED there shall be no further media interviews with the Defendant pending
further order of the court.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office shall not approach
the Defendant with any media requests pending further order of the
court.
Discussion held regarding Defendant’s Request that Victim Impact Evidence be
Presented via Videotape.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Request for reasons stated on the record.
Discussion held regarding Defendant’s Motion for Discovery of Victim Impact
Evidence.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion.
Discussion is held on Counsel for the Defendant’s Motion to Withdraw.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/052013/m5770706.pdf

 

[Luv'sTink]

Maybe they asked to be removed so it would delay in hopes the jury's memories would fade/soften a bit towards JA.

Discussion is held on Counsel for the Defendants Motion to Withdraw.

They asked to be removed or JA asked that they be removed?

 

[Thumper_Man]

I agree. My only concern is that if she gets the DP she is isolated, but LWOP puts her with general population and more privileges. LWOP gives her more opportunities to spew her craziness and torment the Alexanders from jail.

I don't know how the prison systems work in Arizona, but in my state; murderers and violent offenders don't get as much privileges as non-violent offenders. I'll have DW come over and explain how the prisons work here since she used to work for them.

If Arizona is similar, then Jodi may not have as many privileges as you think she may have.

 

[Thumper_Man]

Yeah, that's what bothers me about life as well. I heard she gets 16 hours of her day out of her cell to socialize, take classes, and do whatever else. Being in prison won't bother her because she can adapt to her situation, we've all seen how traumatic it is with her videos of "Prison Idol" and the other interviews. Wait, I forgot that it's her faith that has helped her through.

Well lets not forget, right now she is only locked up in a county jail. Once she is sentenced, she will be moved to a prison where things aren't as laid back as in a county jail. IF she does get 16 hours, lets not forget that part of those 16 hours are spent at the court house. If the Arizona prison operate similar to ours, then life won't be as simple for Jodi as some of you may think.

I asked DW to come back and explain to you how our prison systems work here.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Maybe they asked to be removed so it would delay in hopes the jury's memories would fade/soften a bit towards JA.



They asked to be removed or JA asked that they be removed?

The Defense team asked to be removed.

Here's a picture of Jodi yesterday returning to the jail:

 

[Thumper_Man]

The Defense team asked to be removed.

Here's a picture of Jodi yesterday returning to the jail:

The zebra stripes suit her well.

 

[Thumper_Man's Wife]

Here in NM, there are 6 prisons. I am only familiar with the main penitentiary, as I worked there for a little while. But the way things work is:

There are 3 sections the prison is broken down into. Level II, Level V, and Level VI.

Level II is for your minimum security risk inmates. Those who will be getting out soon, those who have very little time, or those that pose no actual risk. Mainly general population inmates are housed here. They go to chow, just like you would at school, one dorm house at a time, and are allowed commissary, unless of course they get in trouble or something along those lines. But it's pretty lax.

Level V is for those who can't function in general pop. Those that aren't necessarily lifers, although some could be, but they do have quite a few years on their record, or are repeat offenders. Generally, these prisoners have a rec area that they can gather at, but are housed in individual cells, some have cellies, or cell mates because of over crowding, but they have the ability to get help. They take classes, they have access to a library, but it is strict in regards to what they can and can't check out, depending on the circumstances, books can be requested and taken to their cells if they are not allowed the time to go themselves. They have rec time outside for a certain amount of hours per week. Etc. Visitation is allowed, but it is by appointment only from an approved list of visitors. Depending on the circumstances, the visitation can be a contact visitation, but it has to be approved by the warden.

Level VI is for your murderers, lifers and mentally unstable prisoners. Those who can't function around others at all. They are housed in their own cells, 23 hours of the day. With 1 hour for rec, which is done in another cell outside. In other words, they are transported by an officer from their cell, to the caged in area outside that is specified for them to walk around, exercise, or whatever. They are cuffed, then taken to the cage, where they are locked in and then un-cuffed through a grate, to minimize the possible danger they are to the corrections officers or themselves. These inmates, while given the opportunity to read or correspond, are limited. They have hours for visitation, but it is by appointment only and is limited to immediate family only. They have to be approved on the list of visitors as well. They can only talk to each other via telephone and can see each other through bullet proof plexi glass. there is no contact with the visitors. Religious or academic services are done in a room, where each inmate is housed in their own cell, and an instructor or pastor is outside in the hall way. Again, no contact.

The thing is, those in Level VI will probably never see the light of day outside those walls. So they don't bother really to rehabilitate or educate them for the possible outside world because they will never be a chance for that.

Also, meals are delivered from Level II to Levels V and VI, and are delivered to each cell, by 3 officers. One to open the food grate, one to stand by with a shield in case the inmate tries anything, and the other to slide the tray in.

If an inmate does something that an officer deems inappropriate or causes trouble, the food rations for that day are delivered in what is called a food loaf. Basically, it's all the nutrients you would get for the days meals, but in a very unappetizing, meatloaf type thing...I've had to make those, I know what they are, and it's disgusting.

Bagged lunches are given for lunch, sandwich meat, bread, a piece of fruit and a carton of milk.

All utensils or food trays are very limited and are made in such a way so when they go to the maximum areas, the inmates do not have anything that can be later made into a weapon.

I hope I didn't confuse anyone...It's been a while since I worked there so I'm trying to remember everything off hand.

 

[SusieR]

I wonder if piglet girl had her baby??

 

[Thumper_Man]

I wonder if piglet girl had her baby??

She hadn't as of yesterday. Unless she had baby C overnight. I think I remember her saying she has a Dr.'s Appointment today.

 

[BearcatsFan]

Good morning, everyone. Gonna be a sad day today.

Thank you, T-Man's Wife, for the explanation. Very interesting. The all-in-one meal ration does not sound appetizing.

Thanks to you also, Remus, for posting the pic of JA in her prison gear.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Pigletgirl we hope you are ok. We are still on Charlotte watch.

It is pretty bad at the age of 32 and both of your attorney's want to walk away from you. I guess you can't blame them. Jodi seems to think she knows how the law works. I am sure that some of their conversations that Jodi has been very defiant and uncooperative at times.

Jodi gave her attorney's nothing left to work with when she made her last spew to the media. And making the statement of Nurmi saying she had no mitigating factors. Which also she threw the BBB lady under the bus before she even got to do her job.

No wonder it looked like both Nurmi and JW threw in the towel and did not care yesterday. Even Nurmi made the comment about her having BPD. I am not sure that made Jodi happy. I thought all 3 of them were pretty distant yesterday. Is it now the BBB ladies turn ? If so I am sure that will give the other 2 a feeling of relief. She will have to have to have a new attorney appointed for her appeal. I am going to watch for any animosity between the 3 of them today.

I doubt the jury is going to buy anything another inmate testifying on Jodi's behalf. But given Jodi's stories of her parents and family they can't testify either.

 

[crz4mm2]

It's going to be quite the show for the defense today it sounds like.

Jeez.

 

[usnuzuloose]

If you read the last sentence of the article you can read where it says she has changed her mind about dying and now prefers to a life sentence. Now that reverse psychology didn't work.


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20700733,00.html

 

[usnuzuloose]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial

In the courtroom hallway at the #JodiArias trial. Court is locked I guess an earlier closed door hearing has been pushed back.

 

[Thumper_Man]

Well the scheduled start time is 10:30, but we all know that starting on time never happens.

 

[Promomx2]

I'm wondering why Jodi's mother or aunt or siblings aren't speaking on her behave but a fellow jailmate is???

 

[Uncle Remus]

From the 15th of July 2008 police interrogation tapes

"Still Beat You...Brat!" [Enhanced Audio]

 

[Oreo Cookie]

Here in NM, there are 6 prisons. I am only familiar with the main penitentiary, as I worked there for a little while. But the way things work is:

There are 3 sections the prison is broken down into. Level II, Level V, and Level VI.

Level II is for your minimum security risk inmates. Those who will be getting out soon, those who have very little time, or those that pose no actual risk. Mainly general population inmates are housed here. They go to chow, just like you would at school, one dorm house at a time, and are allowed commissary, unless of course they get in trouble or something along those lines. But it's pretty lax.

Level V is for those who can't function in general pop. Those that aren't necessarily lifers, although some could be, but they do have quite a few years on their record, or are repeat offenders. Generally, these prisoners have a rec area that they can gather at, but are housed in individual cells, some have cellies, or cell mates because of over crowding, but they have the ability to get help. They take classes, they have access to a library, but it is strict in regards to what they can and can't check out, depending on the circumstances, books can be requested and taken to their cells if they are not allowed the time to go themselves. They have rec time outside for a certain amount of hours per week. Etc. Visitation is allowed, but it is by appointment only from an approved list of visitors. Depending on the circumstances, the visitation can be a contact visitation, but it has to be approved by the warden.

Level VI is for your murderers, lifers and mentally unstable prisoners. Those who can't function around others at all. They are housed in their own cells, 23 hours of the day. With 1 hour for rec, which is done in another cell outside. In other words, they are transported by an officer from their cell, to the caged in area outside that is specified for them to walk around, exercise, or whatever. They are cuffed, then taken to the cage, where they are locked in and then un-cuffed through a grate, to minimize the possible danger they are to the corrections officers or themselves. These inmates, while given the opportunity to read or correspond, are limited. They have hours for visitation, but it is by appointment only and is limited to immediate family only. They have to be approved on the list of visitors as well. They can only talk to each other via telephone and can see each other through bullet proof plexi glass. there is no contact with the visitors. Religious or academic services are done in a room, where each inmate is housed in their own cell, and an instructor or pastor is outside in the hall way. Again, no contact.

The thing is, those in Level VI will probably never see the light of day outside those walls. So they don't bother really to rehabilitate or educate them for the possible outside world because they will never be a chance for that.

Also, meals are delivered from Level II to Levels V and VI, and are delivered to each cell, by 3 officers. One to open the food grate, one to stand by with a shield in case the inmate tries anything, and the other to slide the tray in.

If an inmate does something that an officer deems inappropriate or causes trouble, the food rations for that day are delivered in what is called a food loaf. Basically, it's all the nutrients you would get for the days meals, but in a very unappetizing, meatloaf type thing...I've had to make those, I know what they are, and it's disgusting.

Bagged lunches are given for lunch, sandwich meat, bread, a piece of fruit and a carton of milk.

All utensils or food trays are very limited and are made in such a way so when they go to the maximum areas, the inmates do not have anything that can be later made into a weapon.

I hope I didn't confuse anyone...It's been a while since I worked there so I'm trying to remember everything off hand.

This is very informative, thanks for the information.

I hope that if Arias received LWOP she has what you have described. Her survival should be whatever is minimal, just the basics.

 

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[Thumper_Man]

This is very informative, thanks for the information.

I hope that if Arias received LWOP she has what you have described. Her survival should be whatever is minimal, just the basics.

We can only hope that the AZ prison system is similar to ours.