Job vent!!!

[Myothername]

I am so mad right now and I really need to vent. I work for what I considered a really good company. They treated their employees right and the work itself was fulfilling. But lately I have been getting so discouraged. Part of my job is to make sure we make our budget. I get a bonus if we make our budget. But a lot of that budget I have no control over. I am trying but it is so frustrating to not get any cooperation from anyone. And as everyone can relate money is tight at home and I really need these bonuses. I have been praying for God to show me where he wants me and this morning I get to work and the first email I open is one that lists the salary increases for the office. I found out my assistants both got bigger raises than I did! One of them is very very good but the other I swear you have to hold her hand for her to go to the bathroom. I guess God is telling me at least where I don’t need to be. I did email my boss about this and she has read her emails but she has not responded to this. It better get better soon.

 

[bunkkinsmom]

DO YOU WORK FOR STARBUCKS TOO?


No really, do you?

Keep praying honey. God will show the way. It won't be easy,
(trust me, I know!) but you will get through it.

 

[usnuzuloose]

I prayed for my job as well and I am so glad that god did not open those doors. As I finally got to leave it. Becareful what you pray for. But I will pray for you. I've been there and done that. Smile.

 

[msmayor]

Bigger raises in terms of % or $$? Without knowing the salary structure of the company, its hard to know why. Perhaps you've hit the ceiling of the salary window for your position and the others haven't.

I'll be honest here though...if I was a supervisor and I had a subordinate email me to wonder why other people got a bigger raise than I did, I would not be too pleased. That, in my opinion, is the wrong approach.

Complaining about how others aren't worthy of their raise isn't how you go about improving your lot. A better approach would be to ask how YOU can improve your own salary increase without bringing the salaries of others in the mix.

 

[ols386]

bigger raises in terms of % or $$? Without knowing the salary structure of the company, its hard to know why. Perhaps you've hit the ceiling of the salary window for your position and the others haven't.

I'll be honest here though...if i was a supervisor and i had a subordinate email me to wonder why other people got a bigger raise than i did, i would not be too pleased. That, in my opinion, is the wrong approach.

Complaining about how others aren't worthy of their raise isn't how you go about improving your lot. a better approach would be to ask how you can improve your own salary increase without bringing the salaries of others in the mix.

ita.

 

[Jey12]

I'm a little floored that you know what your coworkers got as a raise and that it's a company memo! Any company I've ever worked for discussing salaries, unless you are directly involved in those decisions, is grounds for immediate termination. This is because it causes tension, resentment and anger with the company. I would have a hard time working for a company that not only allowed this but actually promoted it by sending out an office memo stating who is getting what. My approach has always been I don't care what anyone but myself is making salary wise. If I am unhappy then I need to personally address it with the powers that be. If a resolution can't be reached I need to rethink my job choice.

My suggestion is to make an appointment with your superior and do an impromtu review. Ask how you can increase your value to the company, and other ways you can help the company reach their goals. I sure wouldn't bring up so and so got a better raise because that will put your supervisor on the defensive from the start. If you approach it by saying you want to do all you can to help the company succeed you often will get more constructive advice.


I really am just amazed they do this. I have worked for many different kinds of companies and never ever have I heard of an office email showing who received what compensation wise. We aren't even allowed to discuss how much our bonuses are at my job. Others do but I don't participate and my stress level is lower because of it.

 

[Arielle22]

I read the OP's post to mean she is upset with the raises because it will affect her bonus (raises outside the budget).

She states the 2 employees are her assistants so it is appropriate to know their salaries.

OP, if you feel your raise was insufficient then you should speak to your manager. I would not bring in to the conversation the amounts your assistants receive. You should never use your staff's salary information when discussing your wages/

 

[Gigi22]

OP, I feel for you. I do. For the last 10 years of my career I administered a budget. A lot of the items on the budget were just beyond my control--for example, I had to cover the maintenance of our truck fleet. I was not in a position where I received a bonus for meeting the budget, I just had to make sure that the work was done somehow.
Perhaps you might want to do a budget analysis of the items you are required to cover, and see in terms of percentages, how much of the budget can be controlled? If you have for example only 5% leeway with your budget, then you need to be very proactive about getting management support with cost-cutting measures.

 

[Myothername]

I was upset not at the dollar amounts of the raises but at the percentage. Yes, mine was more dollar wise but their raises were more percentage wise. If I had gotten the same percentage they did I would have gotten a bigger dollar amount.

As for the budget it is so dependent on things I have no control over but yet I am responsible for it. Dollar wise I am making less than when I started because we are not getting bonuses much anymore. Been about a year when we used to get them every quarter.

As for emailing my boss about it, we have that kind of relationship. We email each other about everything. She did call me into her office to discuss it and she was not very helpful. Another thing I did not put in the original post is what kinda started off my being upset was she hung up on me yesterday when I was trying to discuss another item that affected the budget. She just got tired of hearing me talk and hung up on me. Big pet peeve of mine and hers too so I was totally shocked by it. I did not bring it up though.

Also another thing that I am upset about is some illegal things another employee is doing. I told my boss about it and she said basically if I make a big deal about it it will end up losing us business. But it is still against the law!!!! Her boss is supposed to call me later to discuss it all. Apparently she did tell him about the illegal stuff so if he brings it up I will talk to him about it. Our company has this big thing about always being honest. That just floored me when she did not want me to say anything about it.

 

[bumbershoot]

I'm a little floored that you know what your coworkers got as a raise and that it's a company memo! Any company I've ever worked for discussing salaries, unless you are directly involved in those decisions, is grounds for immediate termination. This is because it causes tension, resentment and anger with the company.

Yep.

 

[Myothername]

I'm a little floored that you know what your coworkers got as a raise and that it's a company memo! Any company I've ever worked for discussing salaries, unless you are directly involved in those decisions, is grounds for immediate termination. This is because it causes tension, resentment and anger with the company. I would have a hard time working for a company that not only allowed this but actually promoted it by sending out an office memo stating who is getting what. My approach has always been I don't care what anyone but myself is making salary wise. If I am unhappy then I need to personally address it with the powers that be. If a resolution can't be reached I need to rethink my job choice.

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Me too. I think that particular memo went out by mistake. But then I do payroll so I know what most everyone makes anyway.

 

[Allison]

Bigger raises in terms of % or $$? Without knowing the salary structure of the company, its hard to know why. Perhaps you've hit the ceiling of the salary window for your position and the others haven't.

I'll be honest here though...if I was a supervisor and I had a subordinate email me to wonder why other people got a bigger raise than I did, I would not be too pleased. That, in my opinion, is the wrong approach.

Complaining about how others aren't worthy of their raise isn't how you go about improving your lot. A better approach would be to ask how YOU can improve your own salary increase without bringing the salaries of others in the mix.

I agree. That would not set well with me.

 

[WDSearcher]

Me too. I think that particular memo went out by mistake. But then I do payroll so I know what most everyone makes anyway.

This is the thing with me. You know what everyone makes and you obviously use that information to complain about your own salary. Knowing what everyone makes because you do the budget is giving you information that is supposed to be confidential. And you should treat it that way. Using it to complain about your own salary or raise is the absolute wrong way to show that you can be responsible with that type of information.

As for emailing my boss about it, we have that kind of relationship. We email each other about everything. She did call me into her office to discuss it and she was not very helpful. Another thing I did not put in the original post is what kinda started off my being upset was she hung up on me yesterday when I was trying to discuss another item that affected the budget. She just got tired of hearing me talk and hung up on me. Big pet peeve of mine and hers too so I was totally shocked by it. I did not bring it up though.

Another huge problem, IMO. It's great that you have "that kind of relationship." But clearly it's not working well if she's getting "tired of hearing you talk." Maybe you're pushing that line a little too much and she's trying to give you a hint that a little less "running to the boss" might be better?

 

[RitaE]

ummm, if your boss is hanging up on you when you call her to gripe about things....


I think that just might be a clue as to why your raise wasn't as big.

 

[bored]

ummm, if your boss is hanging up on you when you call her to gripe about things....


I think that just might be a clue as to why your raise wasn't as big.

 

[Myothername]

ummm, if your boss is hanging up on you when you call her to gripe about things....


I think that just might be a clue as to why your raise wasn't as big.

Actually I got the maximum, 3%. But the way that particular memo was worded it said my assistant bot 4.65%. Between the time she got hers and I got mine they changed something slightly with the raises. Yes, she makes less than me and it did not add up to much but it is the principle of the thing. She got a larger percentage. My assistant is a sweet woman and I love her to death. But you have to hold her hand on everything. It gets old. Then when I see she gets a bigger percentage of a raise...it just did not sit well.

I did talk it out with my boss and with her boss and it is okay for now. But I am still going to be looking for something else. I love my job but I need to make more money. That is the bottom line. Similar positions in our area make twice what I do.

As for her hanging up on me I know it was because she was tired of hearing about it but I thought it very immature on her part. She hates for people to do that. I am trying to keep something illegal from happening and I get hung up on. As for the illegal thing, she is aware of it now and so is her boss so if we get called on it I can say i reported it as I was supposed to do.

 

[msmayor]

The fact of the matter is that giving everyone the same percentage raise just isn't fair.

EVERYONE wants to make more $$, and you still got more in terms of dollars to spend than your subordinate.

Always giving the same percentage increase actually widens the gap between what a supervisor makes and what a subordinate makes...you get a bigger dollar amount raise than the subordinate, thereby your salary grows faster than his/hers. Many companies will alter the % raise based on position to help keep the gap from getting too big.

I get that you want more $$...everyone does. But don't always equate a higher percentage raise with a better one. Its not always the case, especially since in yours you do say you end up with more 'spendable cash' than those who got a higher percentage.

 

[C.Ann]

I'll be honest here though...if I was a supervisor and I had a subordinate email me to wonder why other people got a bigger raise than I did, I would not be too pleased. That, in my opinion, is the wrong approach.

Complaining about how others aren't worthy of their raise isn't how you go about improving your lot. A better approach would be to ask how YOU can improve your own salary increase without bringing the salaries of others in the mix.

I'm a little floored that you know what your coworkers got as a raise and that it's a company memo! Any company I've ever worked for discussing salaries, unless you are directly involved in those decisions, is grounds for immediate termination. This is because it causes tension, resentment and anger with the company. I would have a hard time working for a company that not only allowed this but actually promoted it by sending out an office memo stating who is getting what. My approach has always been I don't care what anyone but myself is making salary wise. If I am unhappy then I need to personally address it with the powers that be. If a resolution can't be reached I need to rethink my job choice.
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As for her hanging up on me I know it was because she was tired of hearing about it but I thought it very immature on her part. She hates for people to do that. I am trying to keep something illegal from happening and I get hung up on. As for the illegal thing, she is aware of it now and so is her boss so if we get called on it I can say i reported it as I was supposed to do.

Maybe she views you as being a "tattletale" - and since they're not interested in doing anything about the situation, she doesn't want to hear it..

Are you comfortable working for a company that you are aware is engaging in illegal activities? Even though you have reported it, doesn't that make you an accessory - or at the very least, "guilt by association"?

That would not fly well with me at all.. I would be finding another job ASAP!