I've only ever noticed one of these rude types of passengers.

In defense of “bratty kids” everywhere, they are children just learning how to behave in a civilized manner. I saw more bratty adults on my last cruise than kids. Adults, who should already know how act in society.
It could be inferred that bratty adults were covered in points 2-8. :)
 
Buffet gluttons, but they didn't eat hardly anything they took. This is how their table looked when they were "done":
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This reminded me of the time we sat in Cabanas and watched two little kids (maybe 5 and 10??) sitting ALONE at the buffet - never once saw a parent. We watched the younger child proceed to take food (mostly muffins - multiple ones) and crumble it up and throw it all over the chairs, the table and the floor. The older child did try to admonish him, but he was just a kid himself, so what good would that do? Finally they left. We then watched a DCL CM come up and do a perfunctory swipe with a towel over the table, completely ignoring the chairs and floor. We did warn the nice lady and her son that found that table a few minutes later that they were about to sit in a pile of mushed up food. So, I guess this one is an example of both #1 and #6! :P

We once witnessed two extremely intoxicated guys nearly come to blows by the atrium elevators of the Fantasy, had DCL security not intervened - shouting expletives including the F word with children all around.

We just got off the NCL Gem. While it was a fabulous cruise, at age 55 and 60 my husband and I were probably in the youngest 5% of the passengers. This wsn't necessarily a bad things and we met many lovely people and enjoyed hanging out with them. But boy were there a lot of cruise "experts" on board. It kind of got to be funny after a while, though. Most of the time they really were just trying to help.
 
Generally you can tell the difference between a child who is overtures and those who you know are bratty whether their at home or on the ship. One cries and the other runs around and throws things without intervention from parents. I tend to feel bad for the children who are overtired. The brats on the other hand...
 

one thing that I would like to see better handled by Disney is just entering the ship. After going through the Ears entrance from the terminal, if you want to wait for the welcome photo there should be one line and another express entry line for people who want to by-pass the photo. It always happens that a family is spread across the line and waiting for a photo and people behind them want to pass on the right and start a push to do so. Not necessarily a rude behavior but something that if was set up slightly different there would be no issue.
 
Some of this is definitely a matter of opinion, and I don't just mean cultural difference in U.S. vs other countries. Have you ever been on the New York or DC subways at rush hour? If you don't squeeze against your fellow passengers to let another person in before the doors close, that is considered the height of rudeness because you are hogging space and making people miss their train. Seems like more often on DCL, I seen an elevator with only 5 or six people (well under capacity), standing near the entrance and not moving back in to let more people.

Same thing with food waste. I don't think it's entirely fair to say people who try things from the buffet and don't finish them is food waste, given the food left behind on the buffet is just as much food waste as food left on a plate. As someone who once worked in a hotel restaurant, unlike an a la carte restaurant where the food is made to order, at a buffet the food is constantly being made and discarded once it sits too long under the heat lamps. Plus, not going to lie, there are some yicky things at the buffet especially when you happen to get something that is not too fresh anymore, and I have definitely gone back for a second plate after discovering much of what I put on my plate the first time is a "dud."
 
Some of this is definitely a matter of opinion, and I don't just mean cultural difference in U.S. vs other countries. Have you ever been on the New York or DC subways at rush hour? If you don't squeeze against your fellow passengers to let another person in before the doors close, that is considered the height of rudeness because you are hogging space and making people miss their train. Seems like more often on DCL, I seen an elevator with only 5 or six people (well under capacity), standing near the entrance and not moving back in to let more people.

Same thing with food waste. I don't think it's entirely fair to say people who try things from the buffet and don't finish them is food waste, given the food left behind on the buffet is just as much food waste as food left on a plate. As someone who once worked in a hotel restaurant, unlike an a la carte restaurant where the food is made to order, at a buffet the food is constantly being made and discarded once it sits too long under the heat lamps. Plus, not going to lie, there are some yicky things at the buffet especially when you happen to get something that is not too fresh anymore, and I have definitely gone back for a second plate after discovering much of what I put on my plate the first time is a "dud."
I'm glad you pointed that out. I don't know if people think they are going to freeze the leftovers and serve it to passengers on the next cruise. Uh no..... in the end it's all going in the trash.
 
Some of this is definitely a matter of opinion, and I don't just mean cultural difference in U.S. vs other countries. Have you ever been on the New York or DC subways at rush hour? If you don't squeeze against your fellow passengers to let another person in before the doors close, that is considered the height of rudeness because you are hogging space and making people miss their train. Seems like more often on DCL, I seen an elevator with only 5 or six people (well under capacity), standing near the entrance and not moving back in to let more people.

Same thing with food waste. I don't think it's entirely fair to say people who try things from the buffet and don't finish them is food waste, given the food left behind on the buffet is just as much food waste as food left on a plate. As someone who once worked in a hotel restaurant, unlike an a la carte restaurant where the food is made to order, at a buffet the food is constantly being made and discarded once it sits too long under the heat lamps. Plus, not going to lie, there are some yicky things at the buffet especially when you happen to get something that is not too fresh anymore, and I have definitely gone back for a second plate after discovering much of what I put on my plate the first time is a "dud."
I agree with you regarding subway etiquette as there are similarities to elevator etiquette. As much as we like our personal space, we should try to make room for as many as possible.

Yet, there are people that try to squeeze in a spot that can accommodate half a body, or try to jump in at the last second, as the doors are closing. Not a fan of those folk.

And the thing with elevators is that there is another one that will open up fairly quickly. If you’re on a cruise, there really isn’t a need to absolutely, positively get on the next one.
 
Darn it - I was really hoping Shmoo would call my bluff and instantly reply to my post with a picture of someone smoking on their balcony......
Sorry, just got up....
Not my picture, but I found one for you:
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I'm not sure why people complain about other people when we all do things that are going to annoy somebody. In fact people complaining about other people is extremely annoying. I just go with the flow...live and let live.

You see the irony here, don’t you?

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: While I surely get your point, cruiser21, it was pretty funny. Thanks for the chuckle! :thumbsup2
 
Some of this is definitely a matter of opinion, and I don't just mean cultural difference in U.S. vs other countries. Have you ever been on the New York or DC subways at rush hour? If you don't squeeze against your fellow passengers to let another person in before the doors close, that is considered the height of rudeness because you are hogging space and making people miss their train. Seems like more often on DCL, I seen an elevator with only 5 or six people (well under capacity), standing near the entrance and not moving back in to let more people.

Same thing with food waste. I don't think it's entirely fair to say people who try things from the buffet and don't finish them is food waste, given the food left behind on the buffet is just as much food waste as food left on a plate. As someone who once worked in a hotel restaurant, unlike an a la carte restaurant where the food is made to order, at a buffet the food is constantly being made and discarded once it sits too long under the heat lamps. Plus, not going to lie, there are some yicky things at the buffet especially when you happen to get something that is not too fresh anymore, and I have definitely gone back for a second plate after discovering much of what I put on my plate the first time is a "dud."

I agree with you regarding subway etiquette as there are similarities to elevator etiquette. As much as we like our personal space, we should try to make room for as many as possible.

Yet, there are people that try to squeeze in a spot that can accommodate half a body, or try to jump in at the last second, as the doors are closing. Not a fan of those folk.

And the thing with elevators is that there is another one that will open up fairly quickly. If you’re on a cruise, there really isn’t a need to absolutely, positively get on the next one.

So funny to read this as coming home I witnessed the ultimate in subway etiquette irony. A woman stood firmly in the subway doorway forcing people to squeeze between her and the door frame at 42nd St - one of the busiest stations where there is usually a sizable turnover in the subway occupants. Refused to move even when multiple people said "Excuse me please!" Then she wanted off two stations later where the door was on the opposite side from where she'd staked her claim and she wanted to pitch a fit that people were not moving quickly enough for her to clear her way.

And I agree with @MomOTwins on the food thing. There have been many times when I've gotten something because it looked amazing and it was gross and other times when I took a bite of something I wasn't sure I'd like (seriously...unless you're piling your plate with something you don't know if you'd like, a cruise isa great place to try things you would not otherwise if you were paying out of pocket for) and ended up loving. You cannot always tell if you'll like something just by looking at it - unless you're talking chicken fingers and such (and even then it's iffy - see also "time spent under lights" or "time in fryer").
 
We were on the Wonder recently and saw some kids with terrible manners. I don't have issue with the little ones crying, throwing tantrums etc. The ship can be overwhelming for some kids - sensory overload and messed up sleep and eating schedules. What amazed me was the older kids who were laying on the table at dinner. Really? I also once had to ask some older kids to stop playing tag in the hallway outside our cabin. It was after 11pm.

My favorite recently was the guy who had to run me over in line. He couldn't get to the check in line fast enough. He pushed his way through the line and past a whole bunch of people just to get to be one of the first ones to sit and wait to board the ship.
 
The worst for me was a chair saver in The walt Disney Theater.
We were sailing with our 2 grand kids and I was taking my granddaughter to see Tangled, it had only been playing a couple months at this point, so I knew we needed to get there earlier to get a seat so she could see.
When the door opens a woman probably my age just barrels in from behind us and grabs an entire row. We were directly behind her. She paced back and forth and saved the entire row. She kept saying "I'm saving this row for my family, I have a big family". I was waiting for a cast member to stop her, but they never did. She was the sharpest rudest person I have ever seen on a cruise. The kicker was she held the whole row until showtime and used about half of it.
I wanted someone to sit down in that row so bad while she was saving all the seats and tell her to go pounce, but nobody took her on.
I wouldn't have either with my 6 yr old grandchild, but if I was with my husband and no kids, I would have.
 
When my parents and I were on the Magic in Feb 2017, there was a large group (seemed to be 2 or 3 families...I'm still unclear if they were related or just friends) who would send 2 kids ahead to save seats in the theater. We were stuck a couple of rows behind them for Tangled - and I can confirm that they only used about 2/3 of the seats they saved. There was an older couple who sat near us and the man kept telling the kids that seat saving was not allowed, but that night about the time he was ready to move them into the "saved" area, more showed up.

The next night? He and his wife marched right into the middle of one of the two rows the kids were "saving" and sat right in the middle. One of the kids went to complain to a CM, and the CM came down and said "They are perfectly right to sit there. You cannot save seats."

So sometimes they'll enforce it.

But I do agree there is a HUGE difference in a family finding their seats and then someone going to the bathroom (I'd argue that you could get popcorn or snacks or whatever while waiting in line...but that issue is fuzzy) and one or two people being sent ahead to save a row or more.
 
The thing about the seat saving is that I’m ok with it if it’s for a reasonable amount of time. Say 5-10 minutes and well before curtain. But as you get closer to curtain time you need to be realistic and let people sit in the seats.
 
My husband and I were in The Buena Vista Theater once and a family was sitting a few rows in front of us and the dad and boy went somewhere.
A large group of adults come in and go to sit in their seats, the woman says "those are my husband and sons seats they went for soda.
This man who was so loud and so rude starts yelling at her "you can't save seats" she is calmly telling the man they just left, they have been seating here.
He just would not stop, all the other adults with him just stared and said nothing and sat down. It was so nasty to see, my blood was boiling. He was trying to intimidate that woman with his loud voice. He didn't move either, the woman changed her seat.
Every time I saw this group of people during the week, I was irked all over again.
They were sitting there and left, she wasn't seat saving, but like Dug720 says, its fuzzy.
 

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