It's not just "PORK" anymore...Now it's your HEALTH CARE!

[auntie]

Since I have spent the majority of my career in the government healthcare system, I will give you an anecdote that illustrates why we do NOT want the government making our life and death decisions. In 1984, while stationed in California, I had a patient who suffered severe head injuries in a JEEP rollover accident. His was placed on life support despite no brain activity. The Medical Review Board for the Army hospital I was on staff at (I will not name the hospital), met at an emergency meeting and decided to keep him on life support until personnel could issue him a medical retirement from the service. After the retirement went through, the "plug was pulled" and the patient expired. The reason - the government saved large amounts of money by having him die as a retiree rather than on active duty in dependant benefits. When I heard what was going on, I contacted his wife and desperately tried to get her to contact her Congressman to stop this, but she was a Korean national and just wanted to go home.

Wow..what a truly sad commentary...and scary too. If this is what our government would do to the family of one who serves his country..they aren't gonna think twice about the rest of us..

You're a good guy Jim.

 

[des1954]

You want to clean up the system some more. Quit paying for illegal immigrant care. This will save billions.

Steve- being a fellow Floridian, and seeing first hand the overwhelming amount of care given to illegal's, I couldn't agree more. In Manatee County where I formerly lived, the illegal's treated EMS as their own personal taxi service to the hospital, and treated the hospital ER as if it were a medical clinic. The county EMS & the hospital ER's should be allowed to turn people away because their perceived illness is not severe enough to be considered a true emergency. Unfortunately, in our litigeous society, Juan Valdez would have "Morgan & Morgan" at his side in a New York minute filing a lawsuit if that's the way things were done.

Maybe that's the solution

- banish all the ambulance chasing lawyers from the country & pass a bill disallowing anyone with law degree from holding an elected position!!!

 

[ntsammy5]

because the death rate will go up exponentially, fewer people will qualify for benefits, because most people will be dead, and our costs will go down, hospitals will close, people will be unemployed, then the government will have to come up with another bailout program which will cause more heart attacks and more deaths, more hospitals will close more people will be unemployed, more government bailouts, more deaths, more unemployment, more bailouts -----


SOMEONE MAKE IT STOP

 

[ntsammy5]

I'm completely and totally screwed! Or I could go to the VA! Wait, I realy gotta think about this.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

Stick with the Tricare, Al.

 

[ntsammy5]

Hey Jim,how have you been? Still going in October? I'll probably be coming down then and staying with Debbie. She invited me this time. Probably the end of the month.

Did you know that the military ticket offer is for retired reserve too?

 

[Born 2 Fish]

You want to clean up the system some more. Quit paying for illegal immigrant care. This will save billions. You want to save billions more, get the gubbament out of healthcare. The red tape alone costs billions. The LAST thing anyone needs is the Gubbament chossing whether you get to live or die. We are heading down a slippery slope here people and some better wake up fast.

Too late,, they got a strangle hold and they ain't lett'n go.

At least not for 4 years.. this is ONLY the beginning my friends.

 

[ntsammy5]

What makes anyone think that the Democrats are any worse than the Republicans. When Bush left office he had already authored trillions in bailouts, left the economy in absolute ruins, had us in two wars (one unnecessary - we should have invaded Saudi Arabia), and left us with a record deficit. None of these guys is doing us any favors! They're all incompetent yahoos.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

Hey Jim,how have you been? Still going in October? I'll probably be coming down then and staying with Debbie. She invited me this time. Probably the end of the month.

Did you know that the military ticket offer is for retired reserve too?

Hoping to go in October, but probably staying offsite in one of the AFVC condos. No reservations yet.

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

Steve- being a fellow Floridian, and seeing first hand the overwhelming amount of care given to illegal's, I couldn't agree more. In Manatee County where I formerly lived, the illegal's treated EMS as their own personal taxi service to the hospital, and treated the hospital ER as if it were a medical clinic. The county EMS & the hospital ER's should be allowed to turn people away because their perceived illness is not severe enough to be considered a true emergency. Unfortunately, in our litigeous society, Juan Valdez would have "Morgan & Morgan" at his side in a New York minute filing a lawsuit if that's the way things were done.

Maybe that's the solution

- banish all the ambulance chasing lawyers from the country & pass a bill disallowing anyone with law degree from holding an elected position!!!

Abuse like you cited here is an epidemic in pre hospital care. I have literally had people tell me that they wanted to go by ambulance because they didn't want to spend the $15 for a cab, the bill for the ambulance was $500 but that was covered by medicaid.

 

[Born 2 Fish]

What makes anyone think that the Democrats are any worse than the Republicans. When Bush left office he had already authored trillions in bailouts, left the economy in absolute ruins, had us in two wars (one unnecessary - we should have invaded Saudi Arabia), and left us with a record deficit. None of these guys is doing us any favors! They're all incompetent yahoos.

Oh I agree that that the Repubs are as much to blame as the Dems,,,but I just can't see why anyone would want to take something that failed miserably and do it AGAIN.

 

[ntsammy5]

Oh I agree that that the Repubs are as much to blame as the Dems,,,but I just can't see why anyone would want to take something that failed miserably and do it AGAIN.

That's what politicians do! Why do we keep voting for them?

 

[Born 2 Fish]

Only possible explanation is we are, subconciously , gluttons for punishment.

 

[auntie]

Abuse like you cited here is an epidemic in pre hospital care. I have literally had people tell me that they wanted to go by ambulance because they didn't want to spend the $15 for a cab, the bill for the ambulance was $500 but that was covered by medicaid.

I have a friend who works for HIP, they have a center in our town. She's always complaining about the people who "work" the system. Like the guy who OWNS the 7/Eleven right next door to the center, but he's on Medicaid. Yet, we are stretched to the max paying for our health care. I'd like to say that he's the exception..only he's not. This kind of abuse is becoming more the norm than the exception.

 

[BRDof3]

Oh I agree that that the Repubs are as much to blame as the Dems,,,but I just can't see why anyone would want to take something that failed miserably and do it AGAIN.

Unfortunately, that's what WE keep doing every time we go to the polls. We keep putting these self-serving fools in power, and the 2-party system ensures that it will never change. Too many blind sheep for the thinking people to counter. Look around, how many people think we've elected change. We have a government made up of the people who have been in Washington for the past 3 presidents. Hardly my definition of change.

That we've managed to stay in business for over 200 years is testament to OUR work, not the self-love practiced daily in the halls of government.

 

[ntsammy5]

Politics, from the latin words Poli, meaning 'many' and tics, meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.

 

[DisneyBishops]

We all complain, but can someone tell me why we elect the same morons to the senate and congress every election.

Some have been there so long they have lost touch with reality.

I just don't understand why we keep these parasites in office.

I know for me I voted against every incumbant on my ballot.

 

[ntsammy5]

I know for me I voted against every incumbant on my ballot.

Me too, Dan, me too.

 

[RvUsa]

Ditto!

 

[Cindy F]

Politics, from the latin words Poli, meaning 'many' and tics, meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!!