It's Bush's fault!

[malificentsman]

Nah, that was Bush too. You know how he tries to shove his hokey religion down our necks all the time. Like the abortion issue. I mean, come on...like brain waves in a fetus prove life. Give me a break.

If we required brain waves to prove life and vote, Bush would have won 2004 by a landslide!

 

[dennis99ss]

Master Gracie, I take your silence on the issue as an acknowledgement that the U.S. policies effecting the region do play a part in the dynamics of the region, and, that the current policies have provided a window for the already present disagreement between Israel and its neighbors to surface.

 

[jenfur]

I wonder if this is really the case. The middle east has been in a power struggle, with two of the main players being Iraq and Iran. Granted, a majority of the middle east is against Israel, but, even before talking about Israel, one must first recognize that Iraq and Iran provided a stabilizing force to the region, very similar to the stabilizing force the US and USSR provided, through the use of weapons, for fear of those weapons being used. In this instance, IRAQ has been reduced to not being a stabilizing force at all. As a result, Iran has the ability to pursue its interests, which, by the way, were against those of Iraq. Iran's religious interests were not shared by Iraq, and as a result, the religious undertones of the current Hezbollah action may not have taken place, as a result of the pressure Iran would have felt from Iraq, in that Iraq would not have wanted Iran to attempt to control the area as they are currently doing.

Further, the Iraq action has showen the Middle East that the all powerful US cannot step into the region, exert control, and do so without problem. This serves to empower the region, in taking actions against the US, or US allies, as they kniow that the US will not take an active participation in the conflict. If the US was going to take action, the Iranian Nuke Proogram would already be in rubble.

You raise some valid points. I am not sure that Iraq would have kept Iran from becoming so vocal since Mahmoud Ahmadinejad seems to be a pot stirrer

 

[jenfur]

Master Gracie, I take your silence on the issue as an acknowledgement that the U.S. policies effecting the region do play a part in the dynamics of the region, and, that the current policies have provided a window for the already present disagreement between Israel and its neighbors to surface.

Yeah, because before W. Bush they all pretty much got along!

 

[GeorgeG]

Everthing will be better when I'm King!

 

[Master Gracie]

Master Gracie, I take your silence on the issue as an acknowledgement that the U.S. policies effecting the region do play a part in the dynamics of the region, and, that the current policies have provided a window for the already present disagreement between Israel and its neighbors to surface.

Dude, I'm on your side. Silence??? Like I have been screaming from the rooftops.

It's ALL Bush's fault.

 

[Master Gracie]

Everthing will be better when I'm King!

Are you trying to usurp Elvis, or Richard Petty, or Billie Jean, or Chicken a La? (I wonder if Chicken a La is related to our own LaLa?

Speaking of Elvis, just where was W on August 16th, 1977? Memphis, I'll bet.

 

[Jimbo]

You know what...I'll be he was behind that NEW Coke fiasco too....

Not to mention Coke Blak. I'm sure that crap's Bush's fault too, because Kanye West told me Bush hates Blak people.

 

[dennis99ss]

yes, he is a Pot Stirrer. But, he came to power in 2005, and has since been vocal. However, one must wonder if, the dynamics of the region had not changed, allowing Iran to take a hard line, conservative approach, if the moderatea would not have come to power, over fear that a hard line government would bring the wrath of Iraq on them.

 

[transparant]

Not to mention Coke Blak. I'm sure that crap's Bush's fault too, because Kanye West told me Bush hates Blak people.

 

[Master Gracie]

would bring the wrath of Iraq on them.

You know it. But I'll bet they would have had to worry about the Wrath of Khan more. He has those ear wormy things. *shudder* That's just nasty. I mean look at them. They slink around in all that slimy stuff, which I think is petroleum based (Six degrees of George Bush, no?)

Speaking of Trek, I just now realized who was behind all the crappy odd numbered movies....George W. Bush.

I'll bet he was the brainchild (and I use that term loosely) behind Jar Jar Binks.

 

[ZZUB]

And another thing: W. was behind Mel's Trip Report get closed. Or re-opened again depending on your view of which was the more distasteful action. We all know how much Republicans live for the politics of personal destruction.

Also, in 8th grade, I was absent the day we voted for student council officers and so I was disenfranchised. It is a well established fact that the Bushies regularly rig elections, steal votes and rob people of their constitutional right to vote in free elections.

Master G: you are definitely onto something with the W./Elvis connection. As we all know, Bush was a drug addict and drunk. What did Elvis die from? Drug abuse. And who gave him the drugs? The CIA, man. Under the direction of who????? Say it with me: George Herbert Walker Bush! Man when will the mainstream media wake up to the neo-con cabal running this country into a theorcratic dictatorship?

And don't you dare try to stiffle my dissent! Dissent is more patriotic than assent.

 

[dennis99ss]

Never said before W everything was fine. Just said before W's policies, mainly being in Iraq and lessening support for Israel, that a window may have opened which created something to surface that may not have surfaced, i.e. the current attacks. It is clear Iran would like Syria to be attacked, or even themselves to be attacked by Israel, so they can turn the region into a jihad against Israel.

With regards silence, silence as to the fact that Bush's policies have contributed to the situation......Do you really believe that, regardless of what W has done, or did not do, the events in the middle east would have occurred exactly as they have. I think that is a shortsighted view. Likelwise, if George I had gone into Baghdad in 91, this issue would likely have surfaced at that time. If Clinton had taken custody of OBL, the WTC may not have happened, etc. But, would that have allowed someone with the same or similar plans to rise up, or would it have made a difference? We don't know, but we do know that George I's actions played a part in today's makeup of the middle east as did Clinton's as do W's.

To exclude W from the picture, and lay no blame on him, is not, in my mind, realistic.

 

[Master Gracie]

which created something to surface

It was submarines. They were filled with illegal mexicans that Bush was trying to sneak into the country. Everybody knows that. The story was on CNN...I'll try to find it for ya.

If Clinton had taken custody of OBL, the WTC may not have happened

Hey dude, raggin' on Clinton is NOT cool. Everybody knows "Nobody died when Clinton lied." So lay off the humidor master, man!

 

[dennis99ss]

You responses are so telling

 

[ZZUB]

You[sic] responses are so telling

And yours aren't?

Dude, you missed the point of this thread.

 

[Master Gracie]

You responses are so telling

Yours too. Thanks man. Solidarity my brother.

Let's keep this thread on the serious track...not all silly like those other "poser" threads.

 

[offwegotoneverland]

jeepers I go looking for a way to get my hands on that candy and it gets all serious around here...what's up with that? Is it an election year?

 

[Master Gracie]

jeepers I go looking for a way to get my hands on that candy and it gets all serious around here...what's up with that? Is it an election year?

Who's serious?!? Let me know and I'll kick em off the thread. Probably Bush plants anyway. Get it, Bush...Plants...I kill me.

Me and dennis are keepin' it real here, so don't come in spouting any of your Pro-Bush/Chocolate tripe again.

Power to the people baby.

 

[malificentsman]

I heard Bush got three people banned from the DIS, personal call to the mods and boom their gone!