Isn't Anyone Allowed to Complain / Vent / Be Annoyed Anymore

[NikitaZee]

But there are some posters who "have" posted every tiny trivial detail of their lives. So when they vent, is it wrong that posters remember things theyve posted?

To throw old posts about different subjects back at them? I would think that would fall under the category of 'off topic'.

Sometimes it seems that the same people antagonize the same people over and over again.

 

[denisem]

Well said. We aren't required to use the yardstick 'someone has it worse than you' to have a valid point. Someone may always have it worse than me - so what? Doesn't mean my pain, annoyance, irritation, etc. is any less important.

Ahhh...but I'm an older broad. On a public message board made up of a myriad of ages/economic levels/etc. ones pain/annoyance/irritations CAN be less important to those who have been through more tragic circumstances.

I don't think it's all bad for people to be reminded of how "it could be so much worse".

 

[NikitaZee]

Ahhh...but I'm an older broad. On a public message board made up of a myriad of ages/economic levels/etc. ones pain/annoyance/irritations CAN be less important to those who have been through more tragic circumstances.

I don't think it's all bad for people to be reminded of how "it could be so much worse".

I can't totally disagree. Although - to the person experiencing the problem/issue, it is important. At least, for the moment that they need to vent about it. That's what makes an issue less of an issue - the ability to get it off your chest.

I have led a pretty much charmed life, while my husband had a lifetime of pain by the time he was 14. He reminds me how bad things can be - and I remind him how good we have it right now. I guess it all evens itself out.

 

[denisem]

Ditto! And for goodness sake, if you're going to post anything at all on here don't forget to include EVERY detail of your life - from your SS# to your doctor's name and phone# - to what color underwear you have on..

As for working on Christmas Day - I wouldn't be happy about it either - regardless of who does or doesn't have a job right now.. I'd like to see one person who currently has a job (and a family at home) jumping up and down with "glee" because they're working on Christmas Day rather than being able to spend that morning with their family.. I would be EXTREMELY surprised - unless they don't "do" Christmas..

No one is expecting that person to jump up & down with "glee". It's just that, having suffering the losses I have in life, working Christmas would be wayyyy down the list in my disappointments.

 

[C.Ann]

But there are some posters who "have" posted every tiny trivial detail of their lives. So when they vent, is it wrong that posters remember things theyve posted?

Nope - nothing wrong with remembering..

It's demanding "additional" information that isn't necessary - especially when it really has nothing to do with the original topic.. Big difference.. Anyone can "ask" any question they want - but that doesn't mean that answering it is a requirement..

 

[C.Ann]

No one is expecting that person to jump up & down with "glee". It's just that, having suffering the losses I have in life, working Christmas would be wayyyy down the list in my disappointments.

And that's fine - for you.. However there are many people who consider Christmas "the" most important day of the year - for various reasons.. So - just as you are entitled to feel the way you do (and I'm very sorry that your losses have made you feel this way), they are entitled to feel the way they do..

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

To throw old posts about different subjects back at them? I would think that would fall under the category of 'off topic'.

Sometimes it seems that the same people antagonize the same people over and over again.

It's only off topic if unrelated.

It isn't off topic if there is a...trend or pattern in that posters issues.

I.e. the poster who had a facebook affair and her DH was having issues and then a post came across as she had the hots for teacher.

As a stand alone--weird post, but nothing too bad. The fact that she was having marital issues and was crushing on her kids teacher--well, her prior posts were completely relevant when she asked the DIS if her thoughts were weird or whatever her inquiry was.

I use that as one example, I'm sure there are others.

Yes, it's rude to bring up irrelevant stuff, but sometimes--calling someone out is the right thing to do when someone is pulling the sympathy card one moment and yanking our chain the next.

I remember years ago a big ol' controversy with a DISers faked death.

Let's just say--I think that is when the DIS changed and folks are skeptical of folks who want undeserved sympathy.

 

[denisem]

I can't totally disagree. Although - to the person experiencing the problem/issue, it is important. At least, for the moment that they need to vent about it. That's what makes an issue less of an issue - the ability to get it off your chest.

I have led a pretty much charmed life, while my husband had a lifetime of pain by the time he was 14. He reminds me how bad things can be - and I remind him how good we have it right now. I guess it all evens itself out.

Truly, I'm not discounting ANYONE'S pain. Pain is pain, whatever the level.

But...the internet is open to EVERYONE. Just because we all have internet access doesn't mean everyone is "equal". We have people on the DIS with multi-million $ homes vs. mobile homes. We have professionals vs. blue-collar or jobless in this current economy. So, you're bound to get various responses.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

And that's fine - for you.. However there are many people who consider Christmas "the" most important day of the year - for various reasons.. So - just as you are entitled to feel the way you do (and I'm very sorry that your losses have made you feel this way), they are entitled to feel the way they do..

Yes, we are entitled to feelings.

But are we really entitled to assume we get special treatment that is contrary to company policy.

I would be upset if I was promised a day off and it was yanked unfairly.

I was upset that I couldn't trade a Thanksgiving shift just b/c it was sweeps even though I had willing and able folks to take my turn at running teleprompter (which seriously would not have impacted our ratings ). It was a bummer, but sometimes you have got to make the best of things.

I won't belittle someone for being bummed. However, I'm not going to go rah rah if rationally, there was no wrongdoing in them being scheduled and they are lowest on the totem pole. It seemed that person unfairly expected a result he was not entitled to count on.

We are entitled to our feelings, but we're not entitled to have things our way just b/c we want them that way and I had no problems with most of the posts on that thread (except the "be glad you have a job".)

 

[ginna74]

Truly, I'm not discounting ANYONE'S pain. Pain is pain, whatever the level.

But...the internet is open to EVERYONE. Just because we all have internet access doesn't mean everyone is "equal". We have people on the DIS with multi-million $ homes vs. mobile homes. We have professionals vs. blue-collar or jobless in this current economy. So, you're bound to get various responses.

While I do agree that EVERYONE is on the internet and people will do what they will, I to a certain degree have always thought people are generally good and decent so I don't always expect the worse but I should and I think if people (including myself) prepare for that, then it wont be such a "omg" moment when they tell you this and that...

 

[disneyfav4ever]

But noone should ever be belittled their feelings and told "it could be worse". One can disagree without resorting to that. Though there are some poster who are gifted and saying those things with grace and it doesn't come across as belittling but just trying to help an OP to see the brighter side of the situation.

I agree, and there I see posters get so flamed sometimes over nothing. It is truly sad how some treat others.

Something else I've always wondered about is why people will tell the OP it is no big deal, but will then continue to argue about it. Why do that is it isn't a big deal?

Nope - nothing wrong with remembering..

It's demanding "additional" information that isn't necessary - especially when it really has nothing to do with the original topic.. Big difference.. Anyone can "ask" any question they want - but that doesn't mean that answering it is a requirement..

I agree. I don't like how people gang up for answers that are really none of their business. And then will get really mad when they aren't answered.

 

[C.Ann]

Yes, we are entitled to feelings.

But are we really entitled to assume we get special treatment that is contrary to company policy.

I wasn't referring to any "one" particular person and/or their job.. Just that I can understand how anyone who feels that Christmas is "the" most important day of the year (whether it's due to family; religion; whatever) would be upset..

I didn't read that other thread (at least I don't think I did - LOL) - just responded here that I would not be happy if I had to work on Christmas and I can see how others might feel that way as well.. So I don't know anything about the "special treatment contrary to company policy"..

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I wasn't referring to any "one" particular person and/or their job.. Just that I can understand how anyone who feels that Christmas is "the" most important day of the year (whether it's due to family; religion; whatever) would be upset..

I didn't read that other thread (at least I don't think I did - LOL) - just responded here that I would not be happy if I had to work on Christmas and I can see how others might feel that way as well.. So I don't know anything about the "special treatment contrary to company policy"..

I understand, I was just adding based on the other thread which was one of the inspirations for the OP.

Lots of companies have seniority rules and this person was only in their 2nd year and felt that since they had no other request for days off during the year, they felt that their 2 requests for Thanksgiving Day and Christmas day be honored.

They also have other issues with the company (something about being underpaid (like less than PA minimum wage), so I think the issue of their days off was just salt in the wound they cannot fix.

So I feel bad, but most folks on the thread were explaining how they'd BTDT and while it was a bummer, he did get Thanksgiving off per his request.

 

[C.Ann]

I understand, I was just adding based on the other thread which was one of the inspirations for the OP.

Lots of companies have seniority rules and this person was only in their 2nd year and felt that since they had no other request for days off during the year, they felt that their 2 requests for Thanksgiving Day and Christmas day be honored.

They also have other issues with the company (something about being underpaid (like less than PA minimum wage), so I think the issue of their days off was just salt in the wound they cannot fix.

So I feel bad, but most folks on the thread were explaining how they'd BTDT and while it was a bummer, he did get Thanksgiving off per his request.

My DD worked in a residential facility for 13 years or so (group home for troubled teenage girls) so there was technically no such thing as a "holiday" off.. The workers worked it out among themselves.. DGD was always able to get C'mas Eve off (for our party) by switching with someone who wanted NYE (she and DH are not partiers).. C'mas Day was interesting - they would all take 2 hour shifts - and those without children would volunteer (actually VOLUNTEER) to take the hours up till noon time or so.. Then the rest of the staff (who had children) would start arriving for their 2 hour shifts.. Worked out great - everyone cooperated - no grumbling - no hurt feelings - and completely approved by management..

Sometimes people have to "give a little" to "get a little"..

 

[ogreenlee]

When you post on a board like this, you are going to get every side of the story thrown back at you and you should expect that to be the case.

Yes, I know the OP was upset because she has to work on Christmas Day, but at our house Christmas has been cancelled due to my losing my job in February, so it is hard to be too upset that the OP has to work on Christmas Day.

This is basically a board about Disney and most Cast Members at Disney World and Disneyland will have to work on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and a lot of other holidays. The members of our Armed Services also have to work on those days; I am sorry that the OP works someplace that needs to be covered on holidays and I am sorry that she has to work, but life could be worse. Sorry.

You're losing your job this coming February or last February? Are you still going on the cruise with your granddaughters? Do you think you should be taking the time to go on a cruise if you're having to "cancel Christmas?"

or...

Yeah? Well you lost your job. I lost my mom last Dec. 15, and my DH lost his dad Dec 30 the year before. How's that for Christmas? My little girl has spent the last two holidays visiting her grandparents in their dying days and she is only six. You can get another job. It's hard to feel too upset at your situation. ***





**see where this is going? it's really none of my business, and i really don't care one way or the other as it has nothing to do with me. personally, i like well-wishes and hope that you have a delightful trip with your family. take it from me, i know how important it is to spend quality time with your family, especially your grandkids. by the way.. i do feel bad that you lost your job... along with everyone else that has lost theirs with our current economy. it really stinks. i also think it stinks that the girl has to work on christmas and she's bummed. it's just not fair to pull the "i have it worse" card.




fwiw.. i'm leaving on Dec 15 for Disney. They stripped my ticker away from me last night over what I believe to be a misunderstanding, but whatever. the mod doesn't know that the ticker was not only for my disney trip, but for the first anniversary of my mom's passing. now i have to look at the calander to see how many days until.


SIG: ONE WEEK AND 4 DAYS!!!

 

[C.Ann]

fwiw.. i'm leaving on Dec 15 for Disney. They stripped my ticker away from me last night over what I believe to be a misunderstanding, but whatever. the mod doesn't know that the ticker was not only for my disney trip, but for the first anniversary of my mom's passing. now i have to look at the calander to see how many days until.


SIG: ONE WEEK AND 4 DAYS!!!

Sorry about your mom..

Have a great trip - you deserve it!

 

[ogreenlee]

Sorry about your mom..

Have a great trip - you deserve it!

Thanks! We are so excited!! I'm not holding my breath, though, b/c we've had to use our trip insurance three out of the last 4 times I've bought it. I'm hoping that the "everything in three" rule applies to us. The last time we had to cancel, was when I made plans for this trip. So if we had gone, I may not have done so. I'm glad I did. We need a fun holiday. My little girl definitely needs one. We've had her in therapy since my mom died because she was fascinated with death, and wanted to die, too, so she could go see my mom. She was behaving badly and acting irrationally at times. She also has issues with nervous tics (the first time was just before we went to disney the first time; age 3). They were pretty bad after mom died. She's doing so much better now, though. We look forward to an uneventful holiday. My MIL, whom I can't give a lot of credit to for much of nothin'... actually said that if she found out any bad news about herself in the meantime that she wouldn't tell us until we got back.

We're just thankful for what we have.

 

[Planogirl]

I think that the point that what matters little to one person might be a big deal to someone else is a good one. I just found out that a dear friend died from cancer which seems like a very big deal to me but I can still sympathize with someone who is disappointed that they have to work on Christmas Day. Their sadness is real to them and that's what matters.

 

[Scurvy]

I'm sorry for your loss, Planogirl.

And ogreenlee, I hope you are able to go on your trip and that you all have a great time!

 

[disykat]

I understand, I was just adding based on the other thread which was one of the inspirations for the OP.

Lots of companies have seniority rules and this person was only in their 2nd year and felt that since they had no other request for days off during the year, they felt that their 2 requests for Thanksgiving Day and Christmas day be honored.

They also have other issues with the company (something about being underpaid (like less than PA minimum wage), so I think the issue of their days off was just salt in the wound they cannot fix.

So I feel bad, but most folks on the thread were explaining how they'd BTDT and while it was a bummer, he did get Thanksgiving off per his request.

I agree with this post totally. I have no problems with people venting. However, when the vents are just plain unreasonable (like saying people without families should always work Christmas and two years seniority should be enough for Christmas off) I feel the need to say something.

If the OP on that thread had said "man, I just found out I have to work Christmas when I thought I had been approved for the day off" he would have lots of sympathy IMO.