Island Tower at Polynesian Villas & Bungalows

[OKW Lover]

Only a small % of people go the 3X per year that makes an AP make sense.

A bit of an oversimplification. The calculation should be based on the number of park days in a year. It doesn't really matter how many "visits" those days are spread over.

 

[tjkraz]

We know there's interest. But after the disaster with the Cabins and the Trust, DVD may not trust its instincts or more likely may need to justify to higher-ups what actual interest is with some datapoints before announcing price points and incentives.

Apples and oranges. There was never any buzz about the cabins.

Besides there's no baseline to compare to. No meaningful way to measure if the response was good or not. The email did suggest calling one's guide, but the website linked says to check back "in the coming months" for details. And anyone who has read about it online knows there is no more info to be had right now.

 

[TinkAgainU]

We know there's interest. But after the disaster with the Cabins and the Trust, DVD may not trust its instincts or more likely may need to justify to higher-ups what actual interest is with some datapoints before announcing price points and incentives.

More like someone was trying to justify their job in email marketing lol. They could add a POLY BUTTON to their Add On Points Website if they really wanted to know interest levels at this point (like they have for the never available VGC). Having people call their Guide and be told there is no information is the opposite of good sales - you've just taught people calling their Guide is a waste of their time. That's not adding to FOMO, that's just irritating your customer base in an already unsteady market, plus makes your Guides look so out-of-the-loop, they hear about emails with their name on them from the clients. If there is a market study here it's cleverly disguised as poor marketing.

 

[Pluto777]

Probably been asked before and probably MANY guesses but when is YOUR best guess as to when the Tower at Polynesian is open to booking with DVC points?

 

[Mikey15]

Probably been asked before and probably MANY guesses but when is YOUR best guess as to when the Tower at Polynesian is open to booking with DVC points?

Sometime between August 25, 2024, and December 17, 2024!

 

[CastAStone]

Probably been asked before and probably MANY guesses but when is YOUR best guess as to when the Tower at Polynesian is open to booking with DVC points?

For new buyers maybe October 15?

For non-poly owners? November 15th?

 

[SugarSweetLee]

For new buyers maybe October 15?

For non-poly owners? November 15th?

Would it be open for bookings as soon as it's open for sale? Are those dates necessitated to be the same or could it go on sale for a period of time before bookings open?

 

[marmentrout85]

Someone mentioned the email wording about minimum investment has been stock terminology for a while, so might not be a sure thing to read too much into it. We love to interpret what they send out, but honestly, a lot of their correspondence and marketing has noticeable errors. They cut and paste like the rest of us lol.

Poly Direct was at $250 before they stopped direct sales a while ago. Someone might know better than me, but it seems they rarely go down on price, just add incentives?

My thought on that is the $250/pt was priced at a premium since it was a "sold out" resort. I'd have to imagine the pricing for for the same resort in "active sales" would be less than its "sold out" price, but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.

 

[CastAStone]

My thought on that is the $250/pt was priced at a premium since it was a "sold out" resort. I'd have to imagine the pricing for for the same resort in "active sales" would be less than its "sold out" price, but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.

That’s what they did with VGF. Price was much less when it moved from sold out sales to active sales.

 

[Brian Noble]

he calculation should be based on the number of park days in a year. It doesn't really matter how many "visits" those days are spread over.

But the cost-per-day can vary by a non-trivial amount. Ten one day visits cost a bit more than 2x what one ten day visit costs.

 

[aka Charles]

Would it be open for bookings as soon as it's open for sale? Are those dates necessitated to be the same or could it go on sale for a period of time before bookings open?

It will go on sale first to current DVC members.
Then it will go on sale to the public, aka non-members.
Then, after an amount of time, they will open it up for points booking for Poly owners (old and new), using modified 11 month home resort booking rules.
After another amount of time, it will open up points booking for non-Poly owners.
The "amount of time" may be as short as a week or possibly as long as a month, but that's totally up to DVD.

The reasoning for the wait before opening points booking for Poly owners is that, if they opened booking right when the tower sales started, all the current Poly owners would be able to book up all of the limited (so far) declared tower rooms before the new Tower owners would even be able to get their new Poly points loaded onto their DVC account.
How would that sound... "Congratulations, you just spent over $50,000 for your Island Tower contract, but you can't book that 2-bedroom villa you want until 2026."

They did do that wait before BPK opened for points bookings at the Grand Floridian.
I bought my BPK contract the first week is was on sale, but had to wait before I was able to book a BPK room there.

Also, the initial points bookings (11 month rules) had to be done by phone with DVC Customer Service.
It wasn't until after BPK was opened up for all of DVC to book (7 month rules) that booking was made available on the DVC website.
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[Sandisw]

Can they limit access to certain shared spaces declared into the association based on which room is booked?

Yes…it’s similar to the CL lounge that is part of condo association but has limits.

Sorry if this was answered….ive been on a cruise..head to WDW tomorrow!

 

[TinkAgainU]

But the cost-per-day can vary by a non-trivial amount. Ten one day visits cost a bit more than 2x what one ten day visit costs.

So like almost every variable related to buying DVC, the value of the Direct Buyers' AP discount (IF it continues, which sadly, is not guaranteed), depends on your individual situation.

 

[Brian Noble]

True, but visits probably dominate days because of the way Disney ticketing works. You pretty much can't make it pay off in one visit unless you are buying more than twelve park days total. You can more or less break even in two visits as long as each is more than a few days, and start saving money with two longer visits or three shorter ones.

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

Just in financials, the difference between a sorcerer's pass and an incredipass for a family of four is nearly $2k per year.

Not true for all families but if you spend enough days in the parks that an AP makes sense (let’s say 15?) and you eat one table service meal ($150 for 4) and buy at least $50 of merch on an average day, the 10% discount saves you about $300 a year (200 x.10 x 15). I think our family gets substantially more than this a year (closer to $1000)—but it’s not “saving” unless you would have spent it either way… and for those with the AP I think you get all of the discounts either way. Our first year as owner, being Y card pushed us to become APs which unlocked the discounts.

A bit of an oversimplification. The calculation should be based on the number of park days in a year. It doesn't really matter how many "visits" those days are spread over.

10 straight park days can cost about the same as 4 one day visits, I believe. For us, three short visits would cost more than Sorcerers Pass, but the same number of days in a straight shot would not.

But the cost-per-day can vary by a non-trivial amount. Ten one day visits cost a bit more than 2x what one ten day visit costs.

Exactly.

 

[NY Pirate Princess]

If we assume that the incentives are good like $180 after that will also hurt the resale prices. Maybe they will drop to like $130 ish or lower. Is it then really worth buying direct just because of blue card and FOMO at new resorts?

This is what I keep thinking about. I want to buy 150 direct at the poly, but my brain keeps saying "what if". I don't care for RIV or the cabins so the only real perk of direct is a shot at trading into Disneyland if I ever put a trip together.

Will I be dead before they build reflections, epcot gate, or mk villains dvc?

I love the idea of the softer perks, but am I willing to pay an extra $10k plus for the mk lounge?

Just go on sale already and price me out!

 

[MonkeyKnifeFight]

Will I be dead before they build reflections, epcot gate, or mk villains dvc?

I love the idea of the softer perks, but am I willing to pay an extra $10k plus for the mk lounge?

Just go on sale already and price me out!

For us it’s 150 or 200 depending on incentives . Sometimes the jump from 150 to 200 makes the savings worth it. When vgf2 went live it was close enough to resale to be a no brainer. We shall see with this one

 

[disneylandtour]

Not true for all families but if you spend enough days in the parks that an AP makes sense (let’s say 15?) and you eat one table service meal ($150 for 4) and buy at least $50 of merch on an average day, the 10% discount saves you about $300 a year (200 x.10 x 15). I think our family gets substantially more than this a year (closer to $1000)—but it’s not “saving” unless you would have spent it either way… and for those with the AP I think you get all of the discounts either way. Our first year as owner, being Y card pushed us to become APs which unlocked the discounts.

10 straight park days can cost about the same as 4 one day visits, I believe. For us, three short visits would cost more than Sorcerers Pass, but the same number of days in a straight shot would not.

Exactly.

I simply meant the cost of an incredipass for resale owners is nearly $500 more than the sorcerer’s pas open to blue card holders X 4.

 

[ShaneDJ]

I think $180pp is the current over/under number for 150/200 point expectations.

Based on what?

Where are you getting those numbers from?

 

[disneylandtour]

Based on what?

Where are you getting those numbers from?

Previous sales and expectations for incentives on this one.