Is this considered to be "keeping up with the Joneses"?

Wait 'till Christmas. Personally, I find the "what did you buy for your kids" threads highly entertaining. Folks who think nothing of dropping $1000+ per kid on presents because (1) "I like Christmas" and/or (2) "The tree looks pathetic without lots of presents". Oh, and the folks desperately trying to get *the most popular toy of the year*, not because little Suzy or Bobby really, really wants it but because every other kid is going to have it under their tree. Now, that is "keeping up with the Joneses"!

Loved your post, but I especially agree with this part. The mother is the kind of person who seems like she wants her daughter to have the things she never had; I was thinking the other day about the daughter's 16th birthday. I have no doubt that Mom won't hesitate to throw her a "Super Sweet 16"; perhaps not a party like on that MTV show, but a blowout nonetheless, and Dad will feel pressed/guilted into paying half or more for it (it's happened before with other expenses; daughter is in dance, Brownies, swimming AND Catechism classes, son is in Scouts, swimming and Catechism. She puts the kids in all these activities, and THEN asks Dad for the money, even though I know he gives them a VERY reasonable amount of child support every month. He is NOT a "deadbeat dad"; she is VERY irresponsible with money), because Mom has a TON of student loan and other debt because of her irresponsible spending habits...Christmas should be VERY interesting!

*Thanks for "letting" me vent; I really needed to get this out today!
 
My kids don't really cross compare with their friends on what they get.


My thoughts--I wouldn't have asked, I would have just said something simple. It really wasn't your business why they give that much. ;)

His response is keeping up with the Joneses, but only they truly know if that is what they are doing.


We have paid $3-$10 per tooth (inconsistent tooth fairy) and it depends on what is going on at the time. One time, we didn't have smaller bills, we were on vacation--I was pregnant and wasn't schlepping downstairs to exchange cash--so that's how the oldest got a bunch of money for her first teeth. My only consideration was that we were in Hawaii at the time and she'd want to spend the money and she wasn't going to get much if we gave her so little.

She also lost 2 teeth at the time, so it may have been $5 for each tooth. I really don't remember. I just remember we didn't have a small enough bill. So she got what we had.

People think we are crazy sometimes, but it isn't their kids or their money. So they can go ahead and think that. I didn't ask them to front me the cash for the tooth fairy.:laughing:

I already know my kids will be mildly unhappy to not get some battery operated hamster pet thing that apparently is in short supply. They don't know about it--but we've never done fad stuff (well--that the "Tickle Me Elmo" toy of the year fad stuff).
 
My kids get a $1. When my neighbor heard that he said "your tooth fairy is cheap, what about inflation" I said that is inflation, I got a nickle or a quarter! :rotfl:

$5-$10 a tooth is insane.
 
kids lose what, 20 teeth? times that by 2, and that's 40. 10.00 x 40 = 400.00 total.
:scared1:
that is A LOT of tooth fairy money!
 

It's silly IMO to base what you give your children on what "other" children are receiving - just so they won't feel "different" or "left out"... What if "other" children were getting $100 a tooth? Who parents like that? :confused3
 
My kids get $5. It all started when a tooth fell out and the only money was a $5. That started the tradition and we stay with it.
 
wow, I feel cheap..my kids got 1.00 for the first tooth and that was the only time the tooth fairy showed up. Oh well, they all managed to survive without the tooth fairy making regular visits.
 
I know on some parenting boards I'm on, I'm probably the cheap tooth fairy BUT it works.

My kids have never once complained about it. They get $1.00 plus a pack of gum (or candy for the one that doesn't like gum) for the very first tooth. After that they get 50 cents. Two quarters. I have one kid that likes the state quarters, so I try to make sure his are state ones.

I really have no idea if the kids compare prices or not to others. They have never said anything -- then again when you have a 15 year old who still has a baby tooth....they don't really complain when they get money of any sort.
 
My son gets $1 per tooth unless it's a "silver tooth". DS9 was born w/ no enamel on his teeth so his baby teeth have cavities in every one of them. We tried to fix some of them in the office but we can't numb his teeth. So...we waited until they got really bad and put him under to fix everything at once. He had 4 extractions, 4 space maintainers, 8 root canals and 8 stainless stell crowns. $$$:scared1: Holy money batman...and this is baby teeth. :eek:Anyway when he loses a "silver tooth" we do give him $5 because he went through a lot to get those and he was very proud of them.
 
Well I for one wish my parents/tooth fairy would have kept up with the Jones'. My friend got one hundred dollars per tooth lost. Yes, $100.00. And she and her sisters didn't think it was that big of a deal. I'll trade in my one dollar for theirs. Heck, when I got my wisdom teeth out, I informed my parents that those 4 deserved at least 20 dollars. I got nothing. Why don't adults have fun fairies to leave us money under our pillows?
 
Why does htis parent think life is fair? No need to pay what others pay. We actually curbed this early on. Our toot fairy does not usually give cash. She leaves presents instead. The presents are things the kids would probaly have gotten anyway. A new game, video, small toy, basically somethign they had been asking for that I bought and put away for a special occasion.
 
Well, I will admit that dd got $20 for her first tooth. :scared1: She got her teeth later than most and started losing them later than most. She was so excited when she finally lost it.

I truly was not expecting it to fall out so soon. :scared1: The toothfairy :wizard: only had a $20 bill on her the night dd lost her tooth. So dd got the $20 along with a nice note from the toothfairy:wizard: explaining that this was extra special since dd had waited so long but in the future it would only be $1/tooth. :laughing::rotfl::rotfl:

This got me into trouble with a lot of my friends but luckily thier kids had already lost many teeth. :lovestruc

As far as giving dd more than $1 because other kids are getting more... not gonna happen. I tell dd if she wants what other kids have in terms of keeping up with them then she has to earn it!

This is exactly what happened with my oldest, who lost her first tooth in the second grade - 10 pm, only had a $20, so I wrote the same letter! Unfortunately, she was kind enough to inform her younger siblings that the tooth fairy gives $20 for the first tooth! :lmao:
 
kids lose what, 20 teeth? times that by 2, and that's 40. 10.00 x 40 = 400.00 total.
:scared1:
that is A LOT of tooth fairy money!

Over a 5-6 year period, it isn't all that much. (yes--going to take that long for my kids teeth to fall out.)

With all the money spent on kids, not sure why the hangups on the tooth fairy.
 
This is a bit of a running joke/issue in our house. DH contacted the tooth fairy and arranged for her to drop $20 for DS. The tooth fairy's more stingy sister-in-law gave DH the hairy eyeball for a while over that one, and yes the tooth fairy has been keeping up the tradition. The sister-in-law just rolls her eyes and grits her teeth at DH. Although, given that DS puts his toothfairy money in his treasure chest which the sister-in-law has been known to pilfer when she is lacking morning coffee money, she conceeds perhaps all is fair in love and teeth. :rolleyes1
 
This is exactly what happened with my oldest, who lost her first tooth in the second grade - 10 pm, only had a $20, so I wrote the same letter! Unfortunately, she was kind enough to inform her younger siblings that the tooth fairy gives $20 for the first tooth! :lmao:

:rotfl:

Luckily I only have one!
 
I don't think it is keeping up - my DD has gotten $10, $20, sometimes it is all I have had on hand but since she is not receiving any type of weekly allowance at this point, this and reoprt card, bday money are all she has to save for what purchases she wants to make.
 
The mother is the kind of person who seems like she wants her daughter to have the things she never had; I was thinking the other day about the daughter's 16th birthday. I have no doubt that Mom won't hesitate to throw her a "Super Sweet 16"; perhaps not a party like on that MTV show, but a blowout nonetheless, and Dad will feel pressed/guilted into paying half or more for it (it's happened before with other expenses; daughter is in dance, Brownies, swimming AND Catechism classes, son is in Scouts, swimming and Catechism. She puts the kids in all these activities, and THEN asks Dad for the money, even though I know he gives them a VERY reasonable amount of child support every month. He is NOT a "deadbeat dad"; she is VERY irresponsible with money)

Obviously you are very close to the dad. It's admirable that he'd want to be there for there for his kids and willingly support their needs and activities. :thumbsup2

Just wanted to point out that Catechism is not an extra. It's religious education and preparation for the sacraments - something many people consider just as important - if not more so - than any other schooling. I don't think Catechism could be excessive - unless you think maybe God is excessive? :confused3

And if you think it's a fun extra-curricular type of "all these activities" you are more than welcome to see for yourself by coming over to get DD8 - or any of her third grade classmates - ready early on Sunday mornings and dropping her off there. Believe me, it's certainly no party...:rolleyes1

FTR - My kids each get $5 a tooth unless it's an extraction by the dentist which pays $10. It's pretty much the norm in our area, they don't have an endless supply of teeth to abuse the privelege, and as long as the kids still believe in the tooth fairy I will help perpetuate the myth by adjusting the Tooth Fairy's Cost of Living Index as required. I don't count scouts or Catechism as extra activities but more of an extension of their education. By my reasoning, that leaves dance & swimming for the girl and just swimming for the boy. In the grand scheme of things around here, that would in no way qualify them as over-indulged...
 
Just wanted to point out that Catechism is not an extra. It's religious education and preparation for the sacraments - something many people consider just as important - if not more so - than any other schooling. I don't think Catechism could be excessive - unless you think maybe God is excessive? :confused3

Oh no, I understand that Catechism is a very important part of religious education for those who practice the Catholic faith. I really have no idea what's involved, as neither I nor their father is religious in the least, so he can't explain it to me.


FTR - My kids each get $5 a tooth unless it's an extraction by the dentist which pays $10. It's pretty much the norm in our area, they don't have an endless supply of teeth to abuse the privilege, and as long as the kids still believe in the tooth fairy I will help perpetuate the myth by adjusting the Tooth Fairy's Cost of Living Index as required. I don't count scouts or Catechism as extra activities but more of an extension of their education. By my reasoning, that leaves dance & swimming for the girl and just swimming for the boy. In the grand scheme of things around here, that would in no way qualify them as over-indulged...

You've got a lot of good points, and I thank you for posting; there are lots of things I really didn't think about. I guess the issue is that this particular woman appears as though she's running herself ragged; she works full-time as a 3rd grade teacher, she drives the kids herself to all these activities, and she's a Brownie leader and a catechism teacher. I'm just afraid that she's taken on too much, but you know what...it's none of my business! I really despise those "well-meaning" people who give "advice" on everything, and I don't want to be one of them.

I think I've got to realize that not every couple operates and has the same mindset like my parents had. As well, my mother was a SAHM and my father was an accountant (now retired) with an excellent handle on his finances. We never wanted for anything; we went on trips to Disney, we were signed up for whatever we wanted to do, and I can never remember being told "no" when I asked for $10 or $20 for "whatever". While we didn't get nearly $5/tooth, we did get many, MANY other things that a lot of my friends didn't get. Gee, maybe my brothers and I were the over-indulged ones...

The kids in this situation will likely not get to go to Disney until they can pay for it themselves, they don't have a summer home, and the mom is putting the house on the market and moving into an apartment because she can't keep up with the household bills any more. The more I think about it, the more that $5/tooth sounds pretty darn reasonable, especially when the money goes right into their bank accounts. It just baffles me, especially after the environment I grew up in, how people like the mom can be so irresponsible with their finances. Mom and Dad are both great parents, though, and I know they care about the kids very much. I'm sure they have both learned from their own mistakes and will each bring up the kids to learn how to handle their money better than they did.

p.s.- The thing that really bothers me is that Dad pays a very reasonable amount of child support to Mom each month, imo (I think it's $500/mo per child; does this seem right?). Yet because of her continued poor spending habits, she has to keep asking for money to pay for this and that activity, while the money he gives her should be more than enough to care for the kids' needs. Oh, and Dad pays the mortgage on their house ($1000/mo), even though he doesn't live there any more, because Mom can't afford to. I can understand him wanting to shell out the money "for the kids", but how will this teach Mom to spend her money more responsibly???
 
Oh no, I understand that Catechism is a very important part of religious education for those who practice the Catholic faith. I really have no idea what's involved, as neither I nor their father is religious in the least, so he can't explain it to me.

Put more simply, Catechism IS religious education class. When I was a child in the sixties it was called Catechism but in our area these days you rarely hear that term unless in a private Catholic school. Instead it's now "Religious Education" classes or, in our case, simply "Sunday School" - just as the religious education "sunday school" classes of my daughter's friends who are Methodists, Baptists, Lutherans, ect are. The difference is more in the sacraments they prepare the students for and age at which they are celebrated.
 
Yes, that's a case of "keeping up with the Joneses". Some of DS8's friends get waaay more than $10 a tooth (videogames, for instance). Our tooth fairy gives $5 a tooth, which is a bit high, but in my defense I couldn't find any locations where I could get $2 bills (I tried). And we can afford $5 a tooth, so whatever...

Wait 'till Christmas. Personally, I find the "what did you buy for your kids" threads highly entertaining. Folks who think nothing of dropping $1000+ per kid on presents because (1) "I like Christmas" and/or (2) "The tree looks pathetic without lots of presents". Oh, and the folks desperately trying to get *the most popular toy of the year*, not because little Suzy or Bobby really, really wants it but because every other kid is going to have it under their tree. Now, that is "keeping up with the Joneses"!


Yes, even more so on the budget board... they play CVS games, coupons like crazy all over to get things *free* make their own soap, etc., etc., etc.,...

Then Christmas comes and BAM! It's all AG Dolls, Netbooks, iPod's... hundreds of dollars per child...plastered all over the budget boards...

Jan thru Oct I feel like I spendtrhrift over there... Nov & Dec I feel like Scrooge!
 












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