Is this acceptable or considered cutting in line?

[patpaxton]

If me and the kids jump in line for The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and send DH to get Fastpasses for Peter Pan - on his way back, would he be able to get back in line with us? Or is this frowned upon or considered 'cutting'?

Two ways to look at this. First is whether or not you feel it's "cutting". Trust your instinct. Second is to consider what people actually do. We just left Disney today after 8 days. What you're describing happens all the time. And, I mean all the time, all parks, all rides. it bothered me at first, but I got used to it.
Do what you feel is right.

 

[2infinityandbeyond]

my son has Vitiligo. If you do not know what that is it is the condition Micheal Jackson has. No, not obsessive nose jobs condition. A quick idea of what it is is a condition that for some unknow reason his body will attack the pigment of his skin leaving white patches on his body. These white patches have ZERO pigment to them so they will burn VERY easily. Now if we are in line for something that has a long wait and is outdoors in the sun (like lion king) I will 100% have my husband take him/them for a walk to keep him from standing in the sun for 40 minutes. He will bring him to shaded places or in shops, whatever just to cut down the amount of sun time he has. Now do I think that b/c he has this condition that we are "special"? NO!!

Yest you suggest that you'd ask a CM to intervene if someone didn't let you cut in line. That is asking for "special" treatment.

 

[CANDYTLEW]

Honestly, it would not bother me at all. I have always let a family member catch up to the rest of the family ahead. Oh, you say, what if everbody did it - that would mean lots of people hopping in front of you...but everyone's not doing it all at once. I hope DH never has a sudden bathroom attack while we're in line - he might be ambushed when he tries to get back to us!

I feel the same way. As long as it is 1 family member catching up, I don't mind. Now I have been in line and had 1 person in front of me holding a place for the REST of the family. That is not cool in my book. But sometimes you have to let things go. If someone has to go to the restroom, does the whole family have to get out of line for that? I would hate that.

 

[ZiPaD3doDAH]

It won't bother me.

As long as it's not more than two-three people who are comming back and they don't come back right when it's their turn to get inside the ride.

Some people do need to step aside to go to the restroom or sorts. It dosen't bother me as long as you wait in line for a bit and just cut in when its your turn.

 

[inkkognito]

Disney ain't got nothing on Southwest Airlines when they used to do the old cattle call line. People would use their luggage as a placeholder and go off to sit in comfy seats. Other people would stay in line for an hour and push the luggage out of the way...no body, no right to that spot in the line. I am one of those people who never minded sitting on the floor for an hour in line in order to snag an exit row. One day some guy came up behind me, plopped down his luggage, and said, "Watch that for me." Uh, no! I said, "I'm not going to be responsible for a stranger's unattended bags." He ignored me and walked away...when he returned an hour later, the bags had been shoved away by others who lined up behind me. As people came up and asked, "Are those your bags?" I simply said, "Nope." I often held a spot for people who needed to quickly run to the restroom, but I sure won't hold it for an hour so some stranger can go off and eat lunch or sit in the chairs. Now, with the new numbered line-up, the old cattle call is irrelevant. For a while, Six Flags in IL issued numbers as people got into line...maybe Disney should do that too.

 

[Tara922c]

Same here! I travel alone several times a year to WDW, so have no one to run get fast passes for me or to hold my place in line if I decide I need to go sit somewhere to cool off or go potty. If I need to do any of those things, I leave the line, then come back to the end of the line and wait all over again, like everyone should.

As far as kids go, that's a bunch of bull. Having kids does not make you special. I travel alone frequently with my grand daughter and have since she was four y/o. She's always been my little travel buddy. She knew even at that age that we must wait in lines and that if she had to get out of line for some reason then we must start over at the back of the line. It was never a problem. Sorry, but the OP's scenario is line cutting plain and simple.

I may be considered a witch for it, but I for one do not put up with line cutters. More than once I've had people say they are trying to catch up with their friends or family. I say fine, let me help you, what are their names. I will then yell "Hey John, your friend wants you to meet him back here. Come on back." If someone tries to push past me, I have no problem giving them the evil eye and telling them that if they try it, I'll be yelling for a CM so fast their head will spin. It ain't happening. If more people would do this, there would not be as much line cutting going on. I got into a conversation one time with a CM about it and was told by both him and also a couple of other CMs that joined us, that line cutting was definitely against the rules, but because other visitors don't raise a stink about it, most CMs don't bother to enforce it, because they don't like confronting guests. If other people would say something, then the CMs would always force the line cutter back.

That is kind of funny. I have never met up with my family while waiting in line. If I was alone, and meeting up with my family a few people in front of you, I would push my way through you. Try, and stop me. If I saw someone not allowing a mom, dad, or what not through to meet up with the rest of their family, and they called a CM, I would defend the person trying to meet their family. No having a child doesn't make you special. I am glad that you feel that if your grandchild has to pee, after waiting in line for an hour, that you should HAVE to wait at the back of the line, but that is you. What I would do, is contact the first CM I see, and explain the situation, and I bet they would be able to help us out. As a parent, I would make my child use the restroom frequently so hopefully this wouldn't happen. As a human, I know that sometimes you do number 1, and 30 minutes later you need to do number 2. Right, not right, whatever it may be, it is allowed. What one person allows their child to do, another person would not. I am not saying that line joining should be a free for all. I agree with you, everyone should wait in line together if the ride together. There is just so many senerios that could happen that either Disney makes a no catching up policy, or everyone hopefully uses their best judgemnt. Say a group is walking towards an attraction to get in line. One of the kids (say 10) stops to tie his shoe, and the rest of the group doesn't hear them, and enters the line. The kid runs up to the line, screams, "mom", and mom is about 20 people deep in the line. Would you let the kid go to his mom, or would you insist the whole group get to the end of the line?

 

[nealsmith]

This is an interesting thread. Obviously strikes a chord with more than a few people.
Have to throw in my 2 cents about the large groups cutting line. If it's so important to be with your group of friends, then they can get out of line and join you at the end of the line! Otherwise everyone can stay where they are.

 

[HolliePoppins]

That is kind of funny. I have never met up with my family while waiting in line. If I was alone, and meeting up with my family a few people in front of you, I would push my way through you. Try, and stop me. If I saw someone not allowing a mom, dad, or what not through to meet up with the rest of their family, and they called a CM, I would defend the person trying to meet their family. No having a child doesn't make you special. I am glad that you feel that if your grandchild has to pee, after waiting in line for an hour, that you should HAVE to wait at the back of the line, but that is you. What I would do, is contact the first CM I see, and explain the situation, and I bet they would be able to help us out. As a parent, I would make my child use the restroom frequently so hopefully this wouldn't happen. As a human, I know that sometimes you do number 1, and 30 minutes later you need to do number 2. Right, not right, whatever it may be, it is allowed. What one person allows their child to do, another person would not. I am not saying that line joining should be a free for all. I agree with you, everyone should wait in line together if the ride together. There is just so many senerios that could happen that either Disney makes a no catching up policy, or everyone hopefully uses their best judgemnt. Say a group is walking towards an attraction to get in line. One of the kids (say 10) stops to tie his shoe, and the rest of the group doesn't hear them, and enters the line. The kid runs up to the line, screams, "mom", and mom is about 20 people deep in the line. Would you let the kid go to his mom, or would you insist the whole group get to the end of the line?

I would strongly suggest you do not do that, unless you want to end up in court like the two women from the teacups did a couple of years ago.

Not that I think Aubriee would do anything but someone else might.

 

[lovemyguys]

Yest you suggest that you'd ask a CM to intervene if someone didn't let you cut in line. That is asking for "special" treatment.

Are you kidding me???? First off, I would NOT let someone keep me from catching up with my family b/c I needed to get DS out of the sun. PERIOD!! And for you to think in any twisted way that seeing my son lose his pigment and see him sad about it makes me feel special?? Actually it makes me mad, it makes me sad, it confuses me, it makes me cry. Special?. NO!! I do not think that it is "special treatment." I think that it is life. Not everyone needs the same "treatment" as everyone else in the world. Not everyone needs to get a GAC card. Not everyone needs to have a chef come to their table to tell them what is safe to eat. Not everyone needs a wheelchair and has to be the first one to get on the bus while people that had been waiting much longer for the bus have to stand there and wait. But do I think ANY of those situations makes any of those people feel special? NO!!! Do I think that they look at it like "wow, when we go to disney we get special treatment." I bet they don't. They look at it as they are getting what is needed for them to be able to function SAFELY in the world.
So you know what. I will continue to do what is right (doctor recommended) for my son to keep him safe. And I will NOT let anyone keep me from my family. I also did not say that I would ask a CM to intervene. I would already be back in my spot with my family. The poster said that she would tell a CM. I said that after she made a big scene and had a CM come over I would explain to them why we were doing what we were doing. So you know what.....if you want to call it "special treatment" that the GAC card kids get, the allergy kids, the wheelchair bound or whatever condition that would need something different then others then I guess my familiy does require "special treatment." And for anyone that needs to leave the line or come and join their family I would 100% move over so they could get through. But I also give away FP's that we do not end up using, my husband stands(no matter how much longer we had been waiting) on the bus and gives his seat to a woman,a child,an elderly person,a father holding a sleeping child, someone limping b/c they have blisters so bad and we also rent the stroller for $31 and on our way out if we see a family that would like to take it we give it to them. But that's just us.

 

[ChocoKat]

I would strongly suggest you do not do that, unless you want to end up in court like the two women from the teacups did a couple of years ago.

Not that I think Aubriee would do anything but someone else might.

This reminds me of something that happened a couple of trips ago. TSM was about a month or so old, we had never ridden it and we had gotten in late at DHS so all FP's were gone. The line was about 70 min long, we decided to brave it and go right in. We made friends with the families in front and behind us, we were talking, they were first timers and we were sharing tips etc and their kids were telling us all about what they had done so far, it was keeping us all entertained. So after 40 minutes of peaceful line waiting we see this lady with two girls in tow literally pushing and shoving her way up front, when someone asked to please don't push she would say: "Oh, we are meeting up with people up front" and kept going. She got a group or so behind us all and a group of adults that were from the DIS (They had DIS stuff on their lanyards that's how I figured it), asked her what she needed.

She went on this pity party thing about how the cousin of her little girl was up to the front and she sooooo wanted to ride with her cousin so they HAD to get to the front that instant. One of the DISers pretty nicely told her: "Ma'am I didn't see you leave the queue for the last 40 minutes, so I am sorry but that's line cutting". Everybody around them sorta looked up, and the families around us actually commented that they were glad they said something.

Well the lady flew off the handle from then on. There was a lot of "how could you's" "Adults ought to be ashamed!" "Disney is ALL about the kids so adults should move over" blah blah blah. She berated the group for another good 10 minutes as we slooowly moved forward. Everybody looked at her like she had just grown a second head, she was loud, obnoxious and wouldn't let up. The Disers didn't engage her at all anymore.

Finally we made it to one of the spring loaded sections of the queue, she smugly pushed it and moved onto another section that was further up queue, then loudly commented something about "That ought to teach them a lesson, telling me what I can or I can't do!". So she kept on pushing and shoving talking about this cousin. Just 5 minutes after she stopped in the line, close to where you pick up the 3D glasses and just stayed on that one spot in line . We all just stared confused, and someone up ahead commented: "I guess the cousin was imaginary" the families around us said: "I guess her kids are special and deserve a spot up front but not ours, let alone adults!"

Their kids asked if that was allowed. The parents explained no it wasn't, and the kids were confused as to why nobody was doing anything. Then the parents had to explain the whole: "Well, we obey the rules, some people bend them, and this is how we make it in our home", etc etc.

We have also had people walkie-talking to their party outside when they were nearly through the line: "Hello, I am nearly to the front, you guys might want to start making your way up here!" If someone looks at them funny they just say: "What? Everybody does it and no one says anything, so more power to me!" That there is not only class, but good planning AND coordinating!

It really gets annoying when a few use their kids as an excuse to act like toddlers and have a tantrum to get whatever they want, if enough of them do it when someone actually has an emergency or does things the right way people loose all sympathy. DH and I go to WDW alone, not by choice mind you, we have never been so incredibly lucky to be able to have kids, it is something that really saddens me, so when a few people act like we ought to be second class citizens in Main street USA because we don't have kids with us it really makes me sad.

My point is:
1) Getting to the parks early guarantees short waits, if you travel with younger kids this is the best time to go and doesn't lend itself to potty break madness. (We travel with friends that bring their 3 year old DS with autistic and ADHD symptoms and really is the best time!)

2) The fastpass machines are really not that far from the entrance of the attractions, waiting to the side while your runner gets some won't delay you that much, unless you sent your runner all the way across the park, in which case I would recommend you ride first, then join them outside, if it is still early, odds are you can ride yet again with them when you get out.

3) I don't have a problem if there is an emergency and need to get out, do seek assistance from a CM as you leave so they can lend you a hand getting back.

4) To those that abuse people's good intentions and sympathy, please STOP IT! You are making it harder and harder for some of us to really care when it counts.

 

[kaytieeldr]

You can call a CM and make some really big scene about the father and the sons going to join their mother and I will pull that CM to the side and explain to him/her the situation. Do you really think that they are going to have me go to the end of the line????

Are you aware Disney offers something called a Guest Assistance Pass? You would go to Guest Services and explain your son's needs (not his condition) to the CM, and they will give you a card that will enable your son and up to five members of his party to wait in a - in his case - shaded area? It does not allow anyone to 'cut' the line; it simply responds to various special needs in an effort to make every Guest's visit equally enjoyable. You present it to the Greeter at each attraction and follow their instructions. And then, nobody has to get out of line, separate from the rest of the family, or try to squeeze past dozens or hundreds of Guests who've been waiting in line all that time.

Ah, I see now you are aware of the GAC.

Not everyone needs to get a GAC card.

Your son - and by extension, up to five members of his party - is a perfect example of someone who, in Florida's hot summer sun, absolutely WOULD benefit from a GAC. Go check out the FAQ on the disABILITIES forum. It's not "special" treatment - certainly not anything like expecting to be able to come and go through a long, often winding, often narrow line of other Guests who've been waiting patiently.

It doesn't get you ahead of the line; it certainly doesn't get you to the front of the line (please don't confuse a GAC with Make A Wish or Give Kids The World visitors). It simply allows the Guest to wait in a more suitable area - in your son's case, that would be somewhere shady.

 

[kaytieeldr]

This has gotton old. Bottom line, I will let A family member catch up, I will myself catch up to my family if it happens to me.

I feel the same way. As long as it is 1 family member catching up, I don't mind.

It won't bother me.

I have a question for the numerous posters (quoting only the three most recent) who've stated they'd let one person go ahead of them to catch up with family/party members somewhere ahead:

How many times per attraction?*

How many times / how long are you willing to be delayed by other parties who get in line while one member goes off and does something else, then bypasses all the people who've gotten in line between the two factions of their group?

Why is all those other parties' vacation time more important than your and your family's vacation time?

*See one of WillCAD's earlier posts, where he counted almost enough line-bypassers to fill another ride vehicle, while he and the others around him waited in line. Really, it does happen.

 

[lovemyguys]

Are you aware Disney offers something called a Guest Assistance Pass? You would go to Guest Services and explain your son's needs (not his condition) to the CM, and they will give you a card that will enable your son and up to five members of his party to wait in a - in his case - shaded area? It does not allow anyone to 'cut' the line; it simply responds to various special needs in an effort to make every Guest's visit equally enjoyable. You present it to the Greeter at each attraction and follow their instructions. And then, nobody has to get out of line, separate from the rest of the family, or try to squeeze past dozens or hundreds of Guests who've been waiting in line all that time.

Ah, I see now you are aware of the GAC. Your son - and by extension, up to five members of his party - is a perfect example of someone who, in Florida's hot summer sun, absolutely WOULD benefit from a GAC. Go check out the FAQ on the disABILITIES forum. It's not "special" treatment - certainly not anything like expecting to be able to come and go through a long, often winding, often narrow line of other Guests who've been waiting patiently.

It doesn't get you ahead of the line; it certainly doesn't get you to the front of the line (please don't confuse a GAC with Make A Wish or Give Kids The World visitors). It simply allows the Guest to wait in a more suitable area - in your son's case, that would be somewhere shady.

THank you!!! I had no idea that we would ~for lack of a better word~ qualify for a GAC card. I am not 100% understanding of what a GAC card does b/c I have never thought it was something that would pertain to us. So how do they do it? If you are not in the "regular" line do look at who was before and after you and then have you go when those people get to the front? I have no problem waiting in line and like I said in a previous post if we are in a covered area and waited 45 minutes and my kids start complaining about waiting then they can either zip it and wait until we are next or we can leave the line and they can not ride.

So my final answer on this is. I would not mind and I do not consider it cutting if someone has to leave the line for whatever reason or someone comes after their family had entered and needed to meet up with them. I have 3 kids that can make me upset while on vacation. The last thing that is going to bother me is the poor father who has to run out of the line and get to the bathroom b/c the meal they had in Mexico isn't sitting right with him and would like to go back in the line to rejoin his family.

 

[aubriee]

Out of the mouth of babes

My neighbors 12 y/o son just came over. (He asked me a few weeks ago if he could mow my yard for the summer. He just got through and came over to get his money.) Anyway, out of curiosity I asked him to come in a minute, then showed him just the OP's question. I didn't say another word to him, just let him read only the first post.

He gave me a disgusted look and said, "no way, that's cutting. It's not fair to the other people that's been standing in line. They should all get in line together. What if every family did that?" His little 7 y/o brother was with him and said, "Gosh, even I know that and I'm just a kid".

Something I did not say in my previous post and should have, is that while we choose to get out of line if my GD has to go to the restroom, then get back in at the back, because we feel that is the right thing to do, I do not have a problem with a parent taking a little one to the restroom and returning to their spot. They were already there. That is not cutting and not what the OP was suggesting. I do have a problem with someone who was never in line, cutting in front of everyone. There is a big difference.

 

[aimeeg]

I only read the beginning and the end of the thread. Threads like these tend to get a little heated. If the original poster is still reading here is my advice.

We have a 2 year old and a 5 year old. We have been to WDW 4 times as a family and 1 time with myself and DD5. My DH and have pretty good fastpass systems in place. LOL He does not mind being the gopher for fastpasses. For example a great thing to do (if the line is not crazy) is go meet Pooh and Tigger while your DH picks up FP's for Pooh Bear. If the line is super crazy a few minutes on the Pooh Bear park would be great. The kids run and play. They burn off a little steam. You can ride Pooh Bear together as a family and then hop over to Peter Pan.

In 2007 when DD2 was only 11 months we were in the Princess line. The wait was 2 hours. About an hour into the wait DD spazzed. She had enough. She was not walking yet, hungry and had a nasty diaper. I excused myself and my DH waited with DD3. About 25 minutes I came back into line. OMG I could have been killed with those looks. On the way out I said I am sorry, excuse me, I have to change the baby etc . .. But truth be told no one cared. Everyone had kids, everyone was hot, everyone was tired and everyone did not care if my baby had a dirty diaper. I just shrugged my shoulders and met up with my family.

This past year we were waiting for FL to open. We were at the rope at the castle. We quickly made our way to drop off the stroller and hop right on Dumbo. We were on the second flight. My kids were so excited. We were actually in the corral when a woman pushed past everyone in line and got into the corral. As she pushed past my family she said I could not keep up. I had the stroller. My DH just said . . . we have a stroller too.

So, there are two examples of cutting. In both situations the people who were "cut" on for lack of better words were irritated.

 

[2infinityandbeyond]

Are you kidding me???? First off, I would NOT let someone keep me from catching up with my family b/c I needed to get DS out of the sun. PERIOD!! And for you to think in any twisted way that seeing my son lose his pigment and see him sad about it makes me feel special??

Of course not, but asking a CM to help you cut in line, regardless of the reason, is looking for special treatment.

 

[kaytieeldr]

THank you!!! I had no idea that we would ~for lack of a better word~ qualify for a GAC card. I am not 100% understanding of what a GAC card does b/c I have never thought it was something that would pertain to us. So how do they do it?

Oh, wow - I didn't realize you honestly didn't consider your son eligible!

It absolutely pertains to him - but to keep this thread more or less on topic - see this http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=595713 post for specific GAC information; and visit the disABILITIES forum http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=595713 for more general assistance.

It's difficult to say how the Cast Members determine attraction-loading for GAC Guests, but the consensus on that forum is that it balances out - sometimes the waits are longer than Guests in the regular queue (example: there are dozens of safari trucks, but only one or two operating at a time that are wheelchair accessible; especially if two Guests waiting at that boarding area can't transfer, one would have a much longer wait. On the other hand, the safari waiting area is entirely tree-shaded, covered, and cooled by fan - your son would be able to wait in the mainstream, faster queue). Sometimes they're shorter, and sometimes they're about the same.

 

[BayouMickey]

I have a question for the numerous posters (quoting only the three most recent) who've stated they'd let one person go ahead of them to catch up with family/party members somewhere ahead:

How many times per attraction?*

How many times / how long are you willing to be delayed by other parties who get in line while one member goes off and does something else, then bypasses all the people who've gotten in line between the two factions of their group?

Why is all those other parties' vacation time more important than your and your family's vacation time?

*See one of WillCAD's earlier posts, where he counted almost enough line-bypassers to fill another ride vehicle, while he and the others around him waited in line. Really, it does happen.

I'm just replying because you quoted me to answer. I said what I had to say I told you what I would do, any more discussion is just senseless dribble at this point. I'll wave when i pass by catching up to my daughters after getting PP FP's. Have a magical trip!

 

[jewelmicky]

I think the WHY makes all the difference!

If you have to get OUT of the line to deal with an emergency...then you should be allowed BACK in. If, like the OP you are doing something else WHILE the rest of your party gets in line, and you want to be together...they should let people pass THEM until you catch up. The Special needs cards are a whole different story altogether....they are like a get out of jail free card, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars...and are perfectly legit, if given out by the park. Not, just because I say so....but because of a legit Dr. excuse.

If I don't SEE you get out of line ahead of me....you are not CUTTING in front of me!

I went to COSTCO a few weeks ago....I got in line behind a man with what looked like one item....waited for the 3 people in front of him to be checked...when he was next. I started to put my stuff on the conveyor....all of sudden here comes his wife with a WHOLE buggy of stuff! He demanded I remove my things so his wife could put his stuff there. I would not remove my stuff, so he piled his stuff in front of mine. My DD6 asked why he cut in front of us? I told her, very loudly, so all could hear. How some adults didn't learn that lesson on Kindergarten like she did. He never looked back or said anything....IO kept talking the whole time. The cashier told me when I got up there, that i should have said something...she WOULD have taken care of it. So, from now on that is what I will do.

Inform a CM and let them take care of it! that is what they are there for.

 

[Mysteria]

I have not read the entire thread. Just on the original question. It's bad form. Don't do it. If every person in line had 1 person cut in it would change the wait times greatly.

I have one form of acceptable jumping that isn't really jumping. If a family gets in line together and then a child has to use the bathroom. I'm fine with that. I'm no further back if I let them back in as I was to begin with.

eta: Even an adult for that matter. Some of those lines can be long at certain times of year.