Seeing as DH just came home this morning with a letter from his employer asking for anyone who would like to take a voluntary permanent layoff, to get with HR by 9/21, I would have to say NO!!!!!!.
The letter outlines what all the company is willing to do for you, if you choose to voluntarily take a permanent layoff. You would get paid any of your unused vacation time, earned no fault day pay and any pay incentive for being on time. They also stated that they will pay for the Cobra insurance for the rest of 2009. Then in 2010, they would pay for 65% of the Cobra insurance, leaving you to cover the other 35%.
During the meeting, it was asked, how many is the company looking to permanently layoff, either by a voluntary choice or forced permanent layoff. They don't know yet. Asked if the company got to or close to the number of permanent layoff numbers, would the short term layoffs would go away. The HR rep didn't know if they would or not. The only adament answer the company would give, if they have to go to forced permanent layoffs, they will not be done based on the time you have with the company. It will be based on each persons ability to run all the different equipment that they use to run production. Which for some of those that have been there for a long time is not a good thing. They have thought themselves to good to do some of the messier jobs. There is one guy that has been there for 20+ years and he can only run part of 1 line.
So now DH and I have to figure out, where does he stand within the company. He can run all but 2 things - the tow motors and this one section of one of the lines. Everything else he has done at one time or another in his 13+ years with the company. He personally knows of at least 32 people who can only run/work on 2 or 3 of the lines. He is one of 10 people on 3rd shift, who gets to come in early on Sundays to restart the lines, because he knows what needs to be done and can do it without a supervisor there making sure its being done.
So for us....NO, it's not over by a long shot.
And.....what a great time to talk about a permanent layoff. The company is holding it Family Fun Fest this weekend. Makes me what to go be around a bunch of people who are worried about their job futures, as the company spends about 20grand on a fun time.