Is star wars finally coming?

[DanBoris]

And USF will be losing the. Marvel characters down the road.

I've been a Star Wars fan since 1977 and I also love Harry Potter (I've read the books 3 times and will read them again). A Sta Wars Land would never shut down the WWoHP. Anyone who thinks so is delusional. I badly want to go to USF just because of HP, but my next trip will be Disney only once again.

One of these days I'll make it to WWoHP and I also look forward to seeing a Star Wars Land.

No reason you can't love both.

The Uni contract for Marvel does not have an end date, so as long as Uni doesn't do something really stupid to violate it they will never "lose" it. It will end when Uni decides they want to end it.

 

[Yellowstonetim]

The Uni contract for Marvel does not have an end date, so as long as Uni doesn't do something really stupid to violate it they will never "lose" it. It will end when Uni decides they want to end it.

Money could change things. If Disney offers enough and if Uni accepts it. But the chances of that are slim to none. There is no incentive for Disney to spend Billions now that they own Marvel and make money from Universal. Universal takes the risk and the more successful they are with Marvel, the more money they pay to Disney!

And Universal NEEDS Marvel, anyway, and would not sell the license except for a h-u-g-e sum that Disney would certainly never be willing to pay.

It is a conundrum that is unlikely to change unless Uni dies, or decades from now Marvel has been replaced by a new Universal property of some kind.

 

[seascapemvy]

Money could change things. If Disney offers enough and if Uni accepts it. But the chances of that are slim to none. There is no incentive for Disney to spend Billions now that they own Marvel and make money from Universal. Universal takes the risk and the more successful they are with Marvel, the more money they pay to Disney!

And Universal NEEDS Marvel, anyway, and would not sell the license except for a h-u-g-e sum that Disney would certainly never be willing to pay.

It is a conundrum that is unlikely to change unless Uni dies, or decades from now Marvel has been replaced by a new Universal property of some kind.

Universal will eventually decide it's not worth it to have the marvel characters in only one universal park while Disney has the Marvel all over the rest of the world.

 

[rteetz]

Universal will eventually decide it's not worth it to have the marvel characters in only one universal park while Disney has the Marvel all over the rest of the world.

Disney doesn't have marvel all over the rest of the world yet tho. Disneyland has some meet and greets, Hong Kong is getting a ride that opens in 2016, and that's pretty much it. It will cost both companies a lot of money for marvel to go to WDW. Universal will have to retheme or build something completely brand new in their marvel land. It will also cost disney a lot to get those rights from universal I don't see it happening for a very long time if ever.

 

[DanBoris]

Universal will eventually decide it's not worth it to have the marvel characters in only one universal park while Disney has the Marvel all over the rest of the world.

Disney has owned Marvel for almost 5 years now, how is that Marvel in parks all over the world thing working out?

 

[Travellerman]

Asking this cause there is so much written about it that it can get a bit confusing (at least for me), is a Star Wars expansion at DHS (Star Wars Land) an almost certain thing? Or possibly put it in a Disney park elsewhere and not in Orlando? Is anything known for sure about this or is all still up in the air? Thanks.

 

[DanBoris]

Asking this cause there is so much written about it that it can get a bit confusing (at least for me), is a Star Wars expansion at DHS (Star Wars Land) an almost certain thing? Or possibly put it in a Disney park elsewhere and not in Orlando? Is anything known for sure about this or is all still up in the air? Thanks.

Although nothing official has been announced (other then the tease at D23 that they are working on new Star Wars attractions), it seems pretty safe to say that DHS will get something new for Star Wars, the big question is, what will that be.

 

[dwheaton]

Although nothing official has been announced (other then the tease at D23 that they are working on new Star Wars attractions), it seems pretty safe to say that DHS will get something new for Star Wars, the big question is, what will that be.

And the other question is when. Disney's construction timeframe has been very slow lately, judging by the SWMT and even Avatar. That's what worries me. We're probably at least three years from having the land once the announcement is made.

 

[ExBellhop]

Asking this cause there is so much written about it that it can get a bit confusing (at least for me), is a Star Wars expansion at DHS (Star Wars Land) an almost certain thing? Or possibly put it in a Disney park elsewhere and not in Orlando? Is anything known for sure about this or is all still up in the air? Thanks.

Since we are on the rumors board after all, this is what I've been most interested to see the result of. As posted somewhere else on Ye Olde Internet, Imagineering (allegedly? aren't all rumors alleged?) submitted 3 different Star Wars projects:
(1) Star Wars retrofit/inclusion in MK as part of Tomorrowland
(2) Star Wars "land" addition to DHS
(3) Star Wars "5th Gate"

Now, no one knows which of these, if any really, will get the green light. These were just the 3 projects that are supposedly submitted.

Not sure how Blue Sky any of it was, but they all seem like they'd have merit.

 

[rteetz]

Although nothing official has been announced (other then the tease at D23 that they are working on new Star Wars attractions), it seems pretty safe to say that DHS will get something new for Star Wars, the big question is, what will that be.

correct I think DHS is the best fit park for Star Wars. Star Wars will eventually come to WDW but its just when not really if. Walt Disney Imagineering now has a section just dedicated to star wars I think that shows big things are coming. Several "insiders" or whatever you want to call them say it will be at both WDW and DLR in the US not much mentioned about other parks around the world. MiceChat for example says Tomorrowland at Disneyland is getting star wars. MiceChat also has said it was supposed to happen already but because the big over budget mymagic+ has halted some projects for the time being. Most seem to say it will be here around 2020.

 

[rteetz]

Since we are on the rumors board after all, this is what I've been most interested to see the result of. As posted somewhere else on Ye Olde Internet, Imagineering (allegedly? aren't all rumors alleged?) submitted 3 different Star Wars projects:
(1) Star Wars retrofit/inclusion in MK as part of Tomorrowland
(2) Star Wars "land" addition to DHS
(3) Star Wars "5th Gate"

Now, no one knows which of these, if any really, will get the green light. These were just the 3 projects that are supposedly submitted.

Not sure how Blue Sky any of it was, but they all seem like they'd have merit.

I think the tomorrowland rumor is because that is where disneylands version is supposed to go. I don't see that happening in WDW though. Star Wars is DHS makes the most sense. A 5th gate on one franchise I just don't see feasible. Rumors right now are that some executives are worried that mommys and little princesses aren't going to go to star wars attractions like disney would like them too. So if that is true I definitely don't see a 5th gate on star wars. To me that just doesn't make much sense since no disney park is based on one franchise nor is any theme park really.

 

[Figmentforever24]

I think the tomorrowland rumor is because that is where disneylands version is supposed to go. I don't see that happening in WDW though. Star Wars is DHS makes the most sense. A 5th gate on one franchise I just don't see feasible. Rumors right now are that some executives are worried that mommys and little princesses aren't going to go to star wars attractions like disney would like them too. So if that is true I definitely don't see a 5th gate on star wars. To me that just doesn't make much sense since no disney park is based on one franchise nor is any theme park really.

I don't think they are concerned about Star Wars being to boyish. I just don't buy it,

 

[rteetz]

I don't think they are concerned about Star Wars being to boyish. I just don't buy it,

I actually unfortunatley do buy it. I find Disney's executives to worried about making the most money. I think they feel if mommys and princesses aren't interested they won't make as much money from the star wars land as they would like too. Will this derail star wars from happening I don't think so it will happen eventually spirit said that too.

 

[MuddyTires]

Some people reading message board rumors from so-called insiders are a bit way too willing to take them as gospel truth.

We should all remember the Whisper Down the Lane game. Even if the info is coming from someone who actually is inside Disney, that info is coming, at least, second hand and each step of the way it passes through someone with a particular perception and agenda.

We know that Disney wants to exploit Star Wars - it wouldn't have paid a boat load of money for the property, set up an annual film schedule, create a tie-in with Phineas and Ferb, etc. They've already added a Star Tours attraction and do the Star Wars weekends. In fact, didn't we just hear that Disney was concerned they were becoming too little girl focused on princesses and fairies, and cut back on a fairy land in MK?

What is more likely to have happened? Maybe Disney was strongly considering adding Cars Land to DHS after DCA. But then they bought Star Wars and started coming up with ideas on adding more Star Wars to the parks, again, probably DHS.

But doing both would obviously be a massive investment and a huge change to the existing park. Naturally, they had to carefully consider whether both of those investments in the same park were the best use of their $, or whether they should just go with Star Wars and drop Cars Land. Also, any type of new land development requires long-term consideration of what they want to do with the park. Those decisions take time to consider and make.

Certainly, you could see someone expressing an opinion that one of many reasons Star Wars and Cars Land at the same time at the same park might not be the best idea is that traditionally Star Wars and cars tend to be more attractive to boys, and DHS is lighter on attractions maybe more traditionally geared toward girls.

And so even though a hole host of things are being considered because any massive investment, particularly coming out of this economy, requires careful consideration, you can see somebody complain about one opinion, blowing it out of proportion.

Happens all the time with just about anything. Everyone has their own perceptions and agendas. Taking any single piece of information, coming second, third, or more hands away, as gospel truth is a bit short sighted, particularly when it's inconsistent with actual conduct.

 

[fivebyfive]

I was speaking to a CM at American Idol yesterday. He claims that the venue is going to be turned into an ice rink of some kind. If true, I can only think it will be Frozen related.

 

[rteetz]

Some people reading message board rumors from so-called insiders are a bit way too willing to take them as gospel truth.

We should all remember the Whisper Down the Lane game. Even if the info is coming from someone who actually is inside Disney, that info is coming, at least, second hand and each step of the way it passes through someone with a particular perception and agenda.

We know that Disney wants to exploit Star Wars - it wouldn't have paid a boat load of money for the property, set up an annual film schedule, create a tie-in with Phineas and Ferb, etc. They've already added a Star Tours attraction and do the Star Wars weekends. In fact, didn't we just hear that Disney was concerned they were becoming too little girl focused on princesses and fairies, and cut back on a fairy land in MK?

What is more likely to have happened? Maybe Disney was strongly considering adding Cars Land to DHS after DCA. But then they bought Star Wars and started coming up with ideas on adding more Star Wars to the parks, again, probably DHS.

But doing both would obviously be a massive investment and a huge change to the existing park. Naturally, they had to carefully consider whether both of those investments in the same park were the best use of their $, or whether they should just go with Star Wars and drop Cars Land. Also, any type of new land development requires long-term consideration of what they want to do with the park. Those decisions take time to consider and make.

Certainly, you could see someone expressing an opinion that one of many reasons Star Wars and Cars Land at the same time at the same park might not be the best idea is that traditionally Star Wars and cars tend to be more attractive to boys, and DHS is lighter on attractions maybe more traditionally geared toward girls.

And so even though a hole host of things are being considered because any massive investment, particularly coming out of this economy, requires careful consideration, you can see somebody complain about one opinion, blowing it out of proportion.

Happens all the time with just about anything. Everyone has their own perceptions and agendas. Taking any single piece of information, coming second, third, or more hands away, as gospel truth is a bit short sighted, particularly when it's inconsistent with actual conduct.

I'd just like to point out that the insiders I have been reading from got potter 2.0 right and these new frozen events as of late. MyMagic+ was also one thing that they got a head start on as well.

Star tours has been around for a long time it just got an update in like 2011ish but it has been around for a while. Star wars weekends has also been going on for a long time. Disney and Lucasfilms have had a long time partnership.

Yes Disney was concerned about being too girly with the FLE and thats why the mine train was added at the last minute. But that doesn't mean disney can think oppositely as well with being too boyish.

Carsland supposedly was on the table like ready to be announced set to go but then Disney purchased LucasFilm. I don't see both coming to DHS it will most likely be Star Wars. They have set ups division in imagineering strictly for stars wars related things.

You are correct lots of thought process goes into these things. Now with MM+ being most likely over budget it is hurting projects that are on the table.

I strongly believe Star wars additions will come to WDW specifically DHS within the next 5-7 years depending on when they announce it. Disney is too smart to not do anything with this massive franchise.

 

[rteetz]

I was speaking to a CM at American Idol yesterday. He claims that the venue is going to be turned into an ice rink of some kind. If true, I can only think it will be Frozen related.

Is he a part time bus driver too?

I don't think that will happen nor do I want it too. Yes frozen is great but an ice rink really? thats something you put in DTD. Frozen should really get its own stage show like beauty and the beast.

 

[fannatic]

Is he a part time bus driver too?

I don't think that will happen nor do I want it too. Yes frozen is great but an ice rink really? thats something you put in DTD. Frozen should really get its own stage show like beauty and the beast.

The ice rink has been officially announced for the Frozen summer event at DHS. I retweeted the announcement. I think it's going in Sound Stage 1. You should be able to Google the official announcement.

 

[rteetz]

The ice rink has been officially announced for the Frozen summer event at DHS. I retweeted the announcement. I think it's going in Sound Stage 1. You should be able to Google the official announcement.

Yes thats a temporary things i know about but I can't see a permanent one going at American Idol once it closes that is what the PP is talking about. Sound Stage 1 isn't used for anything anyways.

 

[k5jm]

It would be nice to see Star Wars Expansion in 2015/16!