Is Positive Thinking Negative?

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I love to see people happy and having a good time. Don't get me wrong about that. Yet I have seen family and corporate events where the amout of forced merriment was stressful and even sad. I am sure that others here have as well. Yet when we are around someone who is in a genuinely good mood, we are all very attracted to that person. I am wondering if we are just refreshed and relieved to witness some real happiness in our world of "Have a nice day!" cheer.

Does anyone else suspect that a leading cause of depression or surliness might be due to how much pressure we are under to be happy?
 
I love to see people happy and having a good time. Don't get me wrong about that. Yet I have seen family and corporate events where the amout of forced merriment was stressful and even sad. I am sure that others here have as well. Yet when we are around someone who is in a genuinely good mood, we are all very attracted to that person. I am wondering if we are just refreshed and relieved to witness some real happiness in our world of "Have a nice day!" cheer.

Does anyone else suspect that a leading cause of depression or surliness might be due to how much pressure we are under to be happy?
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I agree - that there is a lot of pressure to "be" happy when one "isn't" happy.. And I do think it can be stressful.. However, when it comes to depression, if you have not already sunk into a deep, clinical depression, I think it's helpful to "Fake it till you can make it.." :goodvibes
 
Thank you C. Ann. I had serious doubts whether anyone would touch this topic because it is a rather painful one, and I usually do try to keep the topics lighter here by asking people things like what their favorite toy was growing up or something of that nature.

Yet sometimes I do sense that the most charitable thing that I can do is just let an angry or sad person be honesst. I wonder how much telling someone to count their blessings when they are in distress adds to their distress. I can force them to tell me how much they have got it made to convenience myself, but people who change their minds against their will hold the same opinion still. If I just agree with them that whatever they are going through really sucks without adding any "but" contradictions, they seem to get over it faster.
 
There is a difference between true positive energy and someone whose faking it. For many, many months I would greet others with a smile and never say a harsh word. Everyone thought I was so positive, but deep inside I was in great pain. I finally decided to look within and work on treating myself better. Now I feel that I am a truly positive person.
 

Yet sometimes I do sense that the most charitable thing that I can do is just let an angry or sad person be honesst. I wonder how much telling someone to count their blessings when they are in distress adds to their distress.

I can tell you as absolutely as I can that if I had let others tell me how to feel, I would likely not be here today, after something that was incredibly stressful and awful for me. So many people wanted me to be grateful for other things, to tell me it wasn't a big deal, to blah blah blah. But I was NOT grateful, the other outcome was always going to be that outcome, it WAS a big deal, and so on.

So I cut those people out for a time, surrounded myself by people who would let me talk and talk and talk some more, and I got through it.

And while I will never be "over" it, I now don't need to talk about it all the time (this whole process also worked after my dear mother died suddenly thanks to her doctors, so I had, unfortunately, had practice). So that when I DO need to talk, I can choose who I want to talk to, or where I want to share it, so I won't be slapped in the face.


I think that telling people to "be happy", being weirded out when someone is in a bad mood and shows it, etc, cause many more problems than if we just let people be who they are. I'm not saying that a customer service person gets to be nasty to customers b/c she broke up with her boyfriend, but I'm saying that her co-workers shouldn't expect her to be sweetness and light while on break. That sort of thing.


But part and parcel of it all is that you need to go towards working things through. I'll tell you, the idea of trying to be "over" my mom's death made me even sadder. But working THROUGH it, so that I could have some times off from the grief, that was OK to think about. Then again, sometimes it did feel like I was never going to get through it all, and I"m sure to my friends who would hear me, they thought they would never get me on another subject. But here we are, almost 9 years after my mom died, and there are long stretches of time when I don't get sad about it all (right now is hard b/c it was her b'day and then my b'day inside the last month, and I saw my stepdad and his new wife recently), so even with the longest processes, you do come through it all.

It just might not feel like it to those kind enough to hear the grieving speak. (yay for those who listen when people grieve!)
 
Yet sometimes I do sense that the most charitable thing that I can do is just let an angry or sad person be honesst. I wonder how much telling someone to count their blessings when they are in distress adds to their distress.

Very well said!
 
I love to see people happy and having a good time. Don't get me wrong about that. Yet I have seen family and corporate events where the amout of forced merriment was stressful and even sad. I am sure that others here have as well. Yet when we are around someone who is in a genuinely good mood, we are all very attracted to that person. I am wondering if we are just refreshed and relieved to witness some real happiness in our world of "Have a nice day!" cheer.

Does anyone else suspect that a leading cause of depression or surliness might be due to how much pressure we are under to be happy?


:thumbsup2 Ya got a point. It is very sad to witness FORCED Happiness.

What leads to TRUE Happiness is being true to one self! So If you are a miserable loaf, and happy being that...SO BE IT!:goodvibes

I also think 'positive thinking' in many ways lets peoples 'guard' down. This may cause more pain then they would normally have if they were a bit more skeptical thinking.
 
Yet sometimes I do sense that the most charitable thing that I can do is just let an angry or sad person be honesst. I wonder how much telling someone to count their blessings when they are in distress adds to their distress..
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I wish more people could grasp this concept.. Telling someone to "count their blessings" when they are in a deep, dark hole is definitely not the right thing to do.. It only serves to increase and magnify the feelings of sadness (or anger) ten fold.. It also adds the "guilt" factor.. The very best thing that anyone can do is simply listen.. No one expects you to "fix" their problem - or make it disappear.. They just need someone to listen and understand that they are in pain..

It's kind of like the whole grief process - and the way "society" treats it and puts unreasonable "time frames" on how long one should grieve.. (Or "how" they should grieve..) It's not a broken leg.. It won't heal in "six to eight weeks".. People tend to be in and out of the grief process for a long, long time.. It's an extremely individual experience.. No two people will ever do it in exactly the same way or exactly the same time frame.. However, "grief" makes other people uncomfortable - so they place unrealistic expectations on the griever..

If you really want to help someone, "listening" is the way to go.. Don't offer advice if the person isn't open to it.. Don't bombard them with platitudes.. Don't tell them they'll "get over it".. Don't tell them "so and so has it a hundred times worse"..

Simply listen and say, "I understand.."

They really don't expect (or want) anything more..;)
 
I don't think there's anything wrong with being sad or unhappy when that's how you feel. You shouldn't be forced to act happy just for the sake of those around you. Feel your feelings KWIM? We all have bad days, times, etc.

But at the same time there are people who are mad, sad, unhappy, depressed or just very negative in general and are very vocal about how they feel all the time. Those kinds of constant attitudes are not only harmful to the individual but they're harmful to everyone around them.

I generally try to be a positive person (and sometimes I really have to work at it). When I'm feeling down, I do try to remember the postive things in my life and I've found that it really DOES help. I think our attitudes about things have a lot to do with our potential for happiness. And I am one of those people that will give everyone a smile and tell them to have a nice day and I do sincerely mean it when I say it. :flower3:
 


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