Is it safe for non potty trained children to swim?

Lanshark

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My question is whether it is safe for non potty trained children to swim in a community or resort pool even with a swimming diaper on?

I live very close to White Water Park where a child died a few years ago. We had season passes and were there the day of the exposure. Community pools and places like White Water, Typhoon Lagoon, and hotel pools are very closely monitored now. We were at White Water a few weeks ago and the section where little ones play is all zero depth. Lots of cool water stuff but no water to sit down in.

I love seeing babies enjoy the water. I took my children in my own pool when they were little.

I am not seeking a debate but would really like to know how effective the swim diapers are. My kids are older and I've never used them.
 
As long as they wear a swim diaper and if they do have an accident tell the lifeguard, they can check the water.
 
As long as the parents of the water-diapered child are observant and get the child out of the pool when it looks like they might be having or just had a bowel movement, I'd say that the swim diaper should be enough to keep anything harmful from entering the pool water. If the child continues to swim for a long time afterwards, then there could be possible problems, IMO.
 
A child died because of contaminated water?? Yikes!:eek: I wonder how many accidents it takes for water to be contaminated enough to affect a child this way? I really never had any idea that this could be such a hazard!:eek::(
 

It is safe as long as you remove them from the pool if they have gone to the bathroom. In addition they need to be in a swim diaper and not a regular diaper. Regular diapers absorb to much water and reek havoc with pools.
 
This was a few years ago. Much has changed since then.

Date: 07/17/98
Georgia public health officials have confirmed two more cases of E. coli O157:H7 in children who attended White Water Recreation Park. One child from Texas and one from Georgia (Cherokee County) were at the park on June 18, 1998. Neither child is hospitalized.

The two new cases were being followed by Public Health, but laboratory tests were not final until this week. A case previously reported from Forsyth County has now been removed from the list following further lab testing that did not confirm E. coli. Seventeen cases have been confirmed in Georgia and nine from out of state, bringing the total number to 26.

Cases are tied to exposure at White Water during June 11, 12, 17 and 18th. Possible explanations for the multiple days of exposure include four fecal accidents at the park and/or two fecal accidents with high concentrations of bacteria at the park on the 11th and 17th with some residual contamination on the following days, June 12 and 18th.

Though Public Health is continuing to investigate a few more potential cases, none are children who were at the park after June 18th. "We have no evidence of any exposures other than the ones we've been tracking from June 11-18," says Paul Blake, M.D., epidemiologist for the Georgia Department of Human Resources (DHR). If your child was at White Water during that time and has not shown symptoms, there is no cause for concern. The incubation period of one to nine days is over."

DHR Public Health Director Kathleen E. Toomey, M.D., M.P.H., reminds parents not to take a sick child to a public pool. "Although proper chlorination greatly reduces the risk of infection, even the best chlorination system cannot totally protect against a high concentration of bacteria," she says.

Dirty Public Pool Spreads Deadly E.coli
To Six Small Children
By June Preston (Reuters)
A contaminated paddling pool at a suburban Atlanta water park was blamed Tuesday for an outbreak of E.coli infection that has hospitalized at least eight young children in three states. `It appears it was transmitted through contaminated water,'' Georgia Public Health Director Kathleen Toomey told a news conference. A child may have been infected and had an accident in the pool.''

Toomey said the outbreak was traced to a recreation park in Marietta, Georgia, 15 miles (24 km) north of Atlanta. Four of the hospitalized children suffered kidney failure, and two remained in critical condition Tuesday. Toomey said five children hospitalized in Georgia were at the park on June 11 or 12, 1998 as were two children from Tennessee and one from South Carolina also diagnosed with E.coli infection. A sixth Georgia case appeared unrelated. She said all of the E.coli cases tied to the park were among children 6 years old or younger.

One of the children who suffered kidney failure was 3-year-old Brody Weiss, the son of Atlanta Braves shortstop Walt Weiss. He was in serious condition Tuesday at Scottish Rite Children's Hospital and was being treated with dialysis, a respirator and blood transfusions.

Weiss said his son initially appeared to have some kind of bug ``but blood started showing up in his bowel movements and by Thursday he was just passing pure blood from his bowels.'' E.coli bacteria are killed by chlorine, and Toomey said experts believed the pool may not have received adequate chlorine treatment.

She said an incontinent youngster could have spread E.coli bacteria in the pool. ``It is important to tell your child not to go to the bathroom in a pool,'' Toomey said. ``And more important, if your child has a diarrheal condition, do not take them to a water park.''

A confirmed fatality
A little girl named Michele died as a result of exposure to E. coli at the recreation park in Marietta, Georgia. In response, the Georgia legislature is considering a bill to be called "Michele's Law" strengthening the regulations pertaining to public pools, spas and waterparks.
 
Swim diapers are for solid containment only. They are not waterproof or watertight. They do not absorb water or hold in urine. If the child has a very loose bowel movement, it may not all stay inside the diaper. I wonder what the difference is between a fecal incident that stays inside the swimming diaper, and a fecal incident that comes out. It's in the water, so it doesn't seem like there would be much difference.... Sorry to be so graphic....:crazy2:
 
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``And more important, if your child has a diarrheal condition, do not take them to a water park.''

This is the statement I hope people take into consideration.
 
Hi Marcie! I live in Vinings and remember the Water Water tragedy. In fact, I am still uneasy about taking my kids to water parks (they are 6 and 8). We took them to WW once last summer because they had been begging for several years to go. I couldn't wait to get out of there.

Our community pool now requires swim diapers plus plastic pants over the swim diaper because the lifeguards have found in testing the water that the swim diapers alone aren't enough.
Pamela
 
Hey Pamela! We're almost neighbors. I'm in Roswell.

What do Disney resorts and water parks require?
 
and it completely freaked me out. I have never let dd go in a kiddie pool. I think at Disney resorts kids can wear the swim diapers, on the disney cruise I'm not sure but I think you need to be potty trained. We go to Disney quite often and it seems as though resort pools are closed due to "accidents" very frequently. Also on the cruise ship last year, the kiddy pool was completely emptied out at one point. Disney does not take accidents lightly, even if it means inconveniencing many. Haven't been to the water parks.
I would guess that the swim diapers don't work too well, because of the amount of pool closures at disney. Any parent that lets kids with diarreah swim are completely ignorant and inconsiderate. Its very disappointing to pay big bucks at a deluxe Disney resort only to find out you have to go to another resort pool if you want to swim. Or last year, we were at BWV, and I couldn't believe the crowds, there was no gettoing a chair. Turns out SAB was closed due to an accident, and they sent everyone to boardwalk. Or when we were on the cruise ship, well those pools are tiny to begin with, so when one closes down you wouldn't even want to be a sardine in the other one.
Good question!
 
this is something my DH and I were discussing recently. I've never taken the baby to a public pool and don't see us doing so anytime in the near future. But we do take him into our private pool daily.

Swim diapers to me seem to be less absorbant than the regular diaper and I'm not sure the leg fitting are any tighter. It seems that rubber pants with no diaper would be just as effective.

I can pretty much predict my babies schedule to be one very dirty diaper during his nap. He has never had an accident in our pool. If he did - I would certainly kick all the neighborhood kids out for the afternoon and do a major shock treatment, whether he had a swim diaper on or not.
 
What are the swim diapers hoping to accomplish? I assumed they would be fairly tight around the legs and waist and also plastic or rubber?
 
Thank you Toby'sfriend if more parents were like you and did not put their unpotty trained kids in public kiddie pools those who's are trained could enjoy. I was always mean according to my children because I would never let them in a public kiddie pool.
 
I don't know if I'm so much as mean to my kids -- we just don't have much of a reason to go to public pools since we have our own pool.

Swim diapers to me appear to be regular diapers without the absorbant material in the crotch. The waistband and leg openings are elasticized. I imagine that if you knew your baby had pooped and removed him from the pool right away, there wouldn't be much danger. I think that the fact that solid waste will dissolve in water after a sufficient period probably contributes to the danger considerably.

There are also non-disposable swim diapers you can buy in some stores. I've never tried them but I have seen them in magazines. They are probably a good idea because compared to regular diapers, these swim things seem very expensive.
 
Originally posted by Lanshark
What are the swim diapers hoping to accomplish? I assumed they would be fairly tight around the legs and waist and also plastic or rubber?

I think they originally invented swim diapers because they don't "blow up" like regular diapers when they get all wet. So they are more comfortable for the kids.

My 3 yr old niece wears a swim diaper when she swims (she's not yet potty trained) and we've never had a problem. She would tell us though if she went. Of course, babies can't do that, so parents would need to check.
 














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