Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[Karin1984]

I especially find the comments here about Megan disclosing suicidal thoughts and seeking therapy very troubling.

I am a survivor of suicide, what it does to the family, the people left behind is devestating. I hope no one ever has to understand the pain of being a family survivor. We need to treat mental health with the respect it deserves. If someone discloses information about their mental health we owe them the benefit of the doubt and to take them seriously.

How DARE anyone make light of someone's mental health struggles... and accusing people of lying or being diisingenuous is exactly that.

So what exactly does someone who is struggling look like? Are they always obvious? Always poor...
No one expected Robin Williams to kill himself... Kate Spade... Anthony Bourdain.

I think the consensus here is that you should seek help when having suicidal thougts. Her claim that she is denied help is the issue. Especially with their mental health charity and Harry being in therapy for years.

And for me it adds to my doubts about her miscarriage, because miscarriage and suicide are things no one wants to question about a person. With rape, it's the three things you never want to think of things of being lied about.

 

[mom2rtk]

may have been a little near the knuckle,

Ooh, points for use of the phrase "near the knuckle"!

 

[mousefan73]

I especially find the comments here about Megan disclosing suicidal thoughts and seeking therapy very troubling.

I am a survivor of suicide, what it does to the family, the people left behind is devestating. I hope no one ever has to understand the pain of being a family survivor. We need to treat mental health with the respect it deserves. If someone discloses information about their mental health we owe them the benefit of the doubt and to take them seriously.

How DARE anyone make light of someone's mental health struggles... and accusing people of lying or being diisingenuous is exactly that.

So what exactly does someone who is struggling look like? Are they always obvious? Always poor...
No one expected Robin Williams to kill himself... Kate Spade... Anthony Bourdain.

Nobody is making light of the fact that she had mental issues. Or suicidal thoughts. How much of the question and criticism is the fact that it’s highly unbelievable that she looked for help and was refused. Simply based on the fact that her he himself was open that he had therapy And that mental health was one of their main platforms for many Royals

 

[mom2rtk]

Had Oprah been a neutral interviewer she would have asked Harry about the Nazi Halloween costume when the issue of racism came up.

Or even a single question about Meghan's family.

 

[Disneylover99]

I found Meghan to be intelligent, self-possessed, well-spoken, and sincere. But then, I am more partial to American society than British and am very independent and would hate being told what to do all the time by a stuffy conglomerate. I imagine that she thought that Harry being the "spare" would allow them a little more freedom or partial anonymity. I think that there is no way to understand ahead of time how ruthless the British tabloids can be, either. I definitely believe her race, nationality, and occupation have a lot to do with the way those rags wrote about her. In contrast, Kate is fully white, British, from an upper class tradition, and didn't have a noticeable career before her marriage. No wonder they were treated so differently. And I would absolutely expect Meghan's new extended family would stick up for her against the press.

Yes. Agree with the bolded.

And that’s why I don’t buy that she didn’t know what she was getting herself into. I don’t think she had any intention of sticking around the UK for too long. She’s an actress. She knows the press. The tabloids were her ticket out. An excuse to leave. She got what she wanted.

At least that was the impression I got after watching the interview. She doesn’t come across as sincere. Maybe I’m wrong, but it felt like an act.

I hope the move is what Harry truly wants. He’s given up a lot for her. I hope they’ll be happy together, but I wonder if Harry will wake up one day and realize he made a huge mistake. Hope not.

 

[mom2rtk]

Re the two wedding business. They said the big wedding was for everyone else; that just the two of them were married several days before the big wedding by the Archbishop of Canterbury, and that was for “them”.

I actually have no issue with that and think it's kind of sweet. And wasn't the least big shocked.

 

[schumigirl]

I especially find the comments here about Megan disclosing suicidal thoughts and seeking therapy very troubling.

I am a survivor of suicide, what it does to the family, the people left behind is devestating. I hope no one ever has to understand the pain of being a family survivor. We need to treat mental health with the respect it deserves. If someone discloses information about their mental health we owe them the benefit of the doubt and to take them seriously.

How DARE anyone make light of someone's mental health struggles... and accusing people of lying or being diisingenuous is exactly that.

So what exactly does someone who is struggling look like? Are they always obvious? Always poor...
No one expected Robin Williams to kill himself... Kate Spade... Anthony Bourdain.

No one is denigrating her wish for therapy......no one. It was stated she could have found help easily, if she wished. No one need have known. I do believe she was lying when she claims she was told she couldn’t have help or therapy....not believing that for one second. What did Harry have to say to that......oh yes, ok dear we’ll just not get you help because the establishment said no......nonsense.

I think most people on this forum have experienced a suicide in the family, and I’ve seen no one make light of it. And of course no one ”looks“ suicidal.

Some people do lie. I know someone who has Munchausen by Proxy and that person made up numerous illnesses and also claimed to have attempted suicide. All lies.

I struggle to believe a word she says as someone who has been in the UK and seen the lack of hounding and racial abuse she claims to have experienced.

I don’t have Twitter or any social media, there were nasty comments on there I have no doubt.....there are morons everywhere.......but she can’t claim to not read those media’s while also claiming to know everything that’s been written about them.

Not much adds up with this pair.

As soon as there was any criticism of their hypocrisy, they started complaining they were being abused and harassed........

But, please don’t assume anyone is dismissing her need for therapy......I actually think she is in serious need of therapy.

 

[Pink Partridge]

I especially find the comments here about Megan disclosing suicidal thoughts and seeking therapy very troubling.

I am a survivor of suicide, what it does to the family, the people left behind is devestating. I hope no one ever has to understand the pain of being a family survivor. We need to treat mental health with the respect it deserves. If someone discloses information about their mental health we owe them the benefit of the doubt and to take them seriously.

How DARE anyone make light of someone's mental health struggles... and accusing people of lying or being diisingenuous is exactly that.

So what exactly does someone who is struggling look like? Are they always obvious? Always poor...
No one expected Robin Williams to kill himself... Kate Spade... Anthony Bourdain.

I am sorry for your struggles, but I can't be shamed for my feelings. And I feel Megs is a big liar and a massive manipulator. I also feel Oprah was a pathetic interviewer.

 

[Disneylover99]

Nobody is making light of the fact that she had mental issues. Or suicidal thoughts. How much of the question and criticism is the fact that it’s highly unbelievable that she looked for help and was refused. Simply based on the fact that her he himself was open that he had therapy And that mental health was one of their main platforms for many Royals

I’m wondering about her issues. Are they resolved? Was it just from feeling suffocated and alone in the UK? Did she ever get help eventually? I watched the entire interview but I’m not sure if any of this was addressed.

 

[TLSnell1981]

The way MM plays the victim is cringeworthy. How she tries to mimic Diana is more than a little strange.... makeup, mannerisms, Valentine's Day baby announcement, suicidal pregnancy, etc. seems too coincidental. I'm really shocked Harry buys what she is selling. Guess only time will tell how this sad story ends. Wonder if she will continue staging scenes from Princess Diana's playbook? What's next?

 

[Suger Mag]

I think the consensus here is that you should seek help when having suicidal thougts. Her claim that she is denied help is the issue. Especially with their mental health charity and Harry being in therapy for years.

And for me it adds to my doubts about her miscarriage, because miscarriage and suicide are things no one wants to question about a person. With rape, it's the three things you never want to think of things of being lied about.

you do know the miscarrige is backed up by hospital records...

 

[mom2rtk]

Do you think Harry will be welcome? He may be allowed to show up but the reception won't be warm and fuzzy. I'd put a fork in it and say I was done. What some folks will do for a buck is disgusting.

That's a fair question. I have no idea. We're in uncharted water. He did just call the entire family a bunch of racists. Since he threw a story out there and declined to identify a specific person.

 

[mousefan73]

I’m wondering about her issues. Are they resolved? Was it just from feeling suffocated and alone in the UK? Did she ever get help eventually? I watched the entire interview but I’m not sure if any of this was addressed.

One of the main questions the British news channels had this morning. What was their goal and what did they want to get out of this interview? What happened last night does not solve any of the issues they bring up.
But in fact can backfire and make things worse

 

[snappy]

For me, I am ready to move on from H&M’s endless drama to helping our youngest with moving into her new house rental.
The only question that came to mind with what was revealed last night was why wasn’t M’s mom there for her during her crisis. I didn’t watch, so maybe they discussed it, but it sure seems M and her mom are close.

 

[Karin1984]

you do know the miscarrige is backed up by hospital records...

If you have a link to the hospital records please share them (also honest, genuine question, not starting an argument with you). Because I couldnt find any statement from a hospital or a doctor, and no one has seen them at a hospital, this is one of the reasons I doubt the miscarriage claim.

That's it with these things like suicide, miscarriage, rape. It grants you guaranteed sympathy. You can say it without having to prove it, because no one wants to ask that question. And guaranteed sympathy is exactly what Meghan needed at that moment.
Whether she had one or not, in both cases, she needs help.

 

[BayouQueen]

One of the main questions the British news channels had this morning. What was their goal and what did they want to get out of this interview? What happened last night does not solve any of the issues they bring up.
But in fact can backfire and make things worse

We have a family member who has mental health problems, who has caused much strife in our family, and this "scorched earth" interview sadly reminded me of her. You kind of just have to look at the sum total of the life lived -- a string of ruined relationships, constant claims of being the victim, lots of emotional and teary outbursts -- and just consider the source and move on.
Mostly I feel sorry for Harry. He's in way over his head and has lost his family and country. Unbelievable.

 

[mom2rtk]

I'm also curious how Meghan finally resolved her mental health issues. Not a single question about how she ever got help. Did she have to wait until she got to Canada? Has she been in therapy in CA? Is she having similar issues in her second pregnancy? Seems very strange not to ask in a "no holds barred" interview.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

For me, I am ready to move on from H&M’s endless drama to helping our youngest with moving into her new house rental.
The only question that came to mind with what was revealed last night was why wasn’t M’s mom there for her during her crisis. I didn’t watch, so maybe they discussed it, but it sure seems M and her mom are close.

It’s a good question. I also wondered why a strong, intelligent, mature, independent woman such as Meghan couldn’t have just gotten help for herself when she started realizing she was going down a bad path?

 

[Tinks]

This is a pretty scathing article but it sums up what some of us are seeing. Here is a quote from it:


But there’s something else going on, too, something that goes far beyond Harry falling out with his dad or Meghan vs Kate. More fundamentally we’re witnessing a culture clash. A conflict between the contemporary cults of victimhood and identity politics, as now keenly represented by Harry and Meghan, and the older ideals of duty, self-sacrifice, stoicism and keeping your (insert bad word) together, as embodied by the queen, and as aspired to by most Brits in recent decades.


https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/...rtQ4SSaJoprkYjkHXUpBMuQ#.YEYbXKeaIok.facebook

 

[nkereina]

One of the main questions the British news channels had this morning. What was their goal and what did they want to get out of this interview? What happened last night does not solve any of the issues they bring up.
But in fact can backfire and make things worse

I haven't been following them closely, but this was my first question. What was the point of this interview?

I understand that H&M want to distance themselves from the Royal family, which I can respect. But if that's what they want to do.... then do it. Go on and build your separate life. Refrain from commenting on it. Focus on your new ventures. Leave any reference to your prior life as Royals in the rearview and look ahead.

Commenting and doing interviews like this seems to perpetuate their entwinement with the Royal family, which is contradictory to the independence they claim to be going for. I know back when they first announced their separation from the family, it was odd to me that they were attempting to start a brand leveraging their royal titles. They want their cake, and they want to eat it too. Have your independence, but do not use the family to stay relevant to now further your career. Interviews like this are just stirring the pot.