Is fried fish healthy if......

[minniebride]

I suspect your doctor tells all of the patients about nutrition because some women (obviously not you) don't have healthy pre-pregnancy diets or they use the pregnancy as an excuse to eat for 2 and double up on Big Macs and dessert. I doubt the doctor intended for you to stress over a few bites of fish or pizza. You'll be fine. If you are still worried, eat before you go to the dinner, eat the salad at the friend's house, and use the nausea as an excuse not to eat more. Congratulations on your pregnancy. I hope this will be your biggest issue during your pregnancy.

Thank you and you are probably right-I cannot imagine not wanting to eat healthy during something as important as pregnancy!!

 

[minniebride]

Does your friend know of the pregnancy? Is there any way to politely ask her to pan cook a peice of fish for you?

One dinner isn't going to hurt. But if you're that worried, I'd just ask to change the cooking method.

No-they have no idea! We are not announcing it until right after my first OB-gyn appt next week!!

My general doctor is who talked to me about nutrition and we received a do's and don'ts packet in my mail from the OB

 

[cornflake]

I've been sticking to lean meats, eggs, fresh fruits, cereals fortified with folic acid and iron, high fiber whole grain breads, unsalted nuts, yogurt, low fat milk, the occasional grilled cheese sandwich, and the occasional PBS and J. So, pretty healthy and making good choices so far. Again, I don't mean to sound paranoid, just trying to make good choices for a very important pregnancy.

Ok, boxed, processed cereals, if those are what you mean (if you just mean plain oatmeal or a plain grain, nevermind but I've not seen those fortified), If you mean packaged, processed supermarket bread (if you mean fresh bread, again nevermind), and grilled cheese and pbj all sound, while not unhealthy, less healthy than homemade spinach and tomato pizza and fresh beer battered homemade fish.

Also, if the yogurt is like Danon or Yoplait, or whatever little fruity sugar cups, totally worse.

Also also, missing veggies! Need veggies!

 

[minniebride]

Some fried fish and some spinach pizza sounds delish. Go enjoy dinner with your friends IMHO this is not a meal to worry about.

Thank you-all this talk about fish I'm starting to feel a little nauseous lol!!! I guess the moderation thing will not be an issue tonight

 

[Kellydelly]

You could eat big macs and fries every day and still manage to produce a healthy baby. Look at all the women/teens who don't actually try to eat healthy at all and end up with good results . Of course if you eat junk and lots of it you may end up gaining weight that you have a hard time getting off. I never worried about anything I ate while pregnant (ate hot dogs, lunch meat, feta cheese, etc.) and I was lucky to not gain excess weight or have any health problems, me or my four perfect kids . I would worry more about weight gain than anything. Your body takes what it needs from whatever you eat to feed the fetus . If you gain weight easily, then I would be eating minimal fried or breaded foods and piling in the salads. I never avoided peanut butter and my kids don't have peanut allergies. To each their own, some people are cautious, some people are overly cautious, and the rest of us just indulge and enjoy .

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

Well, here is a comforting thought; developing brains need fat (good fat of course) which is why the best breast milk is full of fat; and why we need to feed young children good fats.

Fat free is pretty much a bad idea (yeah, I know, I know). The fat is replaced with other things that are as bad if not worse for you.

Eat fresh. Eat unprocessed, eat good oils, eat organic where it matters, and avoid white (sugars, flours, breads, pastas, ect.). Remember that chemical sounding terms that end in 'ose' and 'ol' are sugars (fructose, sucrose, dextrose, malitol, etc.)...

It's good to care as much as you do.

Oh, about the peanuts... some physicians and nutritionists hold that eating peanuts in any form during pregnancy is linked to peanut allergies in children.

 

[minniebride]

Ok, boxed, processed cereals, if those are what you mean (if you just mean plain oatmeal or a plain grain, nevermind but I've not seen those fortified), If you mean packaged, processed supermarket bread (if you mean fresh bread, again nevermind), and grilled cheese and pbj all sound, while not unhealthy, less healthy than homemade spinach and tomato pizza and fresh beer battered homemade fish.

Also, if the yogurt is like Danon or Yoplait, or whatever little fruity sugar cups, totally worse.

Also also, missing veggies! Need veggies!

Cereals are either homemade oatmeal or Mueslix. Bread is Fiber One or trader joes multigrain with all good ingredients. Yogurt is Trader Joes plain or nonfat vanilla and I add my own fruit. Veggies have been really tough for me and my stomach is having a lot of trouble tolerating a lot of them. I ate a salad yesterday and was only able to keep it down for about a half hour I've been trying to sneak spinach and broccoli into omelets, but in general veggies have been really challenging the last 2 weeks!!

I'm feeling better about the menu tonight now that I got some 2nd opinions

 

[minniebride]

Well, here is a comforting thought; developing brains need fat (good fat of course) which is why the best breast milk is full of fat; and why we need to feed young children good fats.

Fat free is pretty much a bad idea (yeah, I know, I know). The fat is replaced with other things that are as bad if not worse for you.

Eat fresh. Eat unprocessed, eat good oils, eat organic where it matters, and avoid white (sugars, flours, breads, pastas, ect.). Remember that chemical sounding terms that end in 'ose' and 'ol' are sugars (fructose, sucrose, dextrose, malitol, etc.)...

It's good to care as much as you do.

Oh, about the peanuts... some physicians and nutritionists hold that eating peanuts in any form during pregnancy is linked to peanut allergies in children.

Thank you. The only nonfat anything I've been eating is nonfat yogurt.

Is that peanut thing with just peanuts or with cashews too. I eat unsalted plain cashews every day in my yogurt.

 

[ilovejack02]

Someone mentioned Big Macs.. up until I was pregnant with ds9, I had never in my life had a Big Mac. 2nd trimester hit and I had one once a week . Couldn't keep my mind off of them... once I gave birth, haven't had one since lol!!

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

Don't eat non-fat yogurt. Eat full fat, stay as natural as possible.

I have only read (and had friends who are pregnant refer to peanuts) about peanuts.

 

[K and K's Mommy]

Just relax and enjoy a good meal! When I was pregnant with my first, I ate Burger King after every haircut. I think that was about every 6 weeks back then. He is absolutely fine today - well, besides being very unorganized.

Don't let people stress you out about eating. There will be many more things to stress about when the baby comes. I avoided alcohol and caffeine, but I had friends who still drank diet coke. Their kids are fine, too.

 

[joviroxx]

Honestly, you are going to have a miserable pregnancy if you obssess over every single thing you eat. Yes, of course, eat healthy. But having friend fish occasionally is ok, too.

I commend you for wanting to watch what you eat and stay healthy. If not only so you have less weight to lose at the end! But in all honesty, don't stress the food. Its easy to obsess on so many things while you are pregnant. Your hormones will do enough of that for you. Enjoy your pregnancy, of course watch what you eat. But believe me, a "non-healthy" thing here and there is NOT going to be bad for the baby. The more relaxed and happy you are, the better the baby. THAT matters the most!

 

[NotUrsula]

Every time I hear "best-odds diet" I just want to throw something at those people, I swear.

Honestly, obsessing over food is worse for you and your baby than all the fried fish you could possibly eat. Repeat after me: obsession leads to stress, and stress is BAD for the both of you. Try to stay away from flat-out junk, but get a lot of calcium, protein and folic acid and you will be fine. (And that spinach pizza is full of calcium and folic acid, more than could possibly be canceled out by the lack of a whole-wheat crust.)

Personally, I don't eat the breading on fried fish, just because I like my fish to taste like fish, and not breading. Ditching the breading cuts the calories by about half, which is the real issue, not the presence of the oil or the processed flour.

 

[MariDisney]

I did my best to eat healthfully when I was pregnant with my DD (my only child). But, I admit to eating two filet-o-fish every week for the entire pregnancy. I just couldn't get enough of them. She's 12 now and healthy as a horse. I'm sure the fried hake will be a much better choice!

 

[mdsoccermom]

Every time I hear "best-odds diet" I just want to throw something at those people, I swear.

Honestly, obsessing over food is worse for you and your baby than all the fried fish you could possibly eat. Repeat after me: obsession leads to stress, and stress is BAD for the both of you. Try to stay away from flat-out junk, but get a lot of calcium, protein and folic acid and you will be fine. (And that spinach pizza is full of calcium and folic acid, more than could possibly be canceled out by the lack of a whole-wheat crust.)

Personally, I don't eat the breading on fried fish, just because I like my fish to taste like fish, and not breading. Ditching the breading cuts the calories by about half, which is the real issue, not the presence of the oil or the processed flour.

The Best Odds Diet had to have been the most ridiculous thing ever published.

 

[mjkacmom]

You could eat big macs and fries every day and still manage to produce a healthy baby. Look at all the women/teens who don't actually try to eat healthy at all and end up with good results . Of course if you eat junk and lots of it you may end up gaining weight that you have a hard time getting off. I never worried about anything I ate while pregnant (ate hot dogs, lunch meat, feta cheese, etc.) and I was lucky to not gain excess weight or have any health problems, me or my four perfect kids . I would worry more about weight gain than anything. Your body takes what it needs from whatever you eat to feed the fetus . If you gain weight easily, then I would be eating minimal fried or breaded foods and piling in the salads. I never avoided peanut butter and my kids don't have peanut allergies. To each their own, some people are cautious, some people are overly cautious, and the rest of us just indulge and enjoy .

Same here - you can poision your body with junk food (not that I did), and the baby will take all of the good (making you more unhealthy). The baby gets "fed" first. I made no changes in my diet (which is pretty balanced), drank coffee, had the occasional glass of wine. Took my vitamins!

 

[clutter]

Someone mentioned Big Macs.. up until I was pregnant with ds9, I had never in my life had a Big Mac. 2nd trimester hit and I had one once a week . Couldn't keep my mind off of them... once I gave birth, haven't had one since lol!!

First trimester it was hot dogs. I CRAVED them. Walked past about 3 hot dog carts on my way to work every day. Torture. Second trimester, it was wendy's cheeseburgers with ketchup, mustard and pickles. Fortunately, I also craved raw carrots throughout.

I'd also like to shoot the authors of the "best odds diet." Seriously, keep away from nitrates, shop the perimeter of the store. You've got 32 more weeks of this. If you stress over everything you eat now, you'll go nuts.

Congrats on your pregnancy!!!

 

[bumbershoot]

Thank you and you are probably right-I cannot imagine not wanting to eat healthy during something as important as pregnancy!!

As a FWIW, sometimes the body has different ideas and doesn't really allow you to eat like you want. For me, nearly everything made me sick. sometimes just the IDEA made me sick. The *looks* of food made me sick. Towards the end I couldn't go shopping as I could smell every drop of spilled milk in the dairy section, and let's not even talk about the meat section. I was *miserable*. My best intentions were destroyed; if I *could* eat something, I would, because that might be all I got.


Good luck eating the fish. I am vegetarian, but sometimes I would lapse for a day and eat fish and chips. Until, well, let's just say a Bad Thing happened when I did that while pregnant, and I haven't even WANTED that ever since. So...no more lapses into pescatarianism for me. I likely wouldn't even be able to step foot in a house that was having fish prepared.

My then-best friend knew instantly that I was pregnant (not by food, but because I had an appointment with a doctor, and that happened so rarely she knew). My husband knew it because I looked completely different even just a week into pregnancy (he knew a day after we "did the deed", and no amount of saying "the sperm and egg haven't even gotten together yet!" could convince him otherwise, he just knew, but it was a week later that he could tell me WHY he knew). It was my few weeks of glowing LOL.

So...you might be announcing it tonight.



The peanut thing is probably just hoping it doesn't cause allergies. But peanuts have been eaten by people for ages. For me, it was a way to get protein as a vegetarian. But I live dangerously; if I'd wanted them, I would have eaten unpasteurized cheese and raw milk, as I feel they are healthier than the pasteurized stuff, with a very low risk of illness (especially if you know your dairy). I just didn't WANT them.

As it was, sometimes all I could deal with was vanilla ice cream (but not NOT *french* vanilla b/c of the egg in it which stank like I couldn't believe while pregnant). So while my nutrition wasn't the best and I gained a lot of weight*, the baby took ALL the good stuff from ME. HE was incredibly healthy and wonderful, and my body made a ton of good milk for him, which took even more out of me, so HE was great. I wasn't, but at least HE was.



*gained 60, lost 25 pounds in the first 2 weeks. Lost another 30 inside of 6 months or so. I was still 5 lbs up from pre-baby weight, and let that destroy my brain, but if I'd LOOKED at myself I would have seen I was doing well. My chest alone weighed a LOT, and my arms have never been thinner b/c of all the baby carrying. I was probably 5 pounds under pre-baby weight if you took away the chest weight, but the chestal region was just enormous LOL.

 

[cornflake]

It sounds like you're eating healthfully - in which case I agree with everyone else, relax! The 'be careful' stuff is more meant for people who eat McDonalds multiple times a week, Cheetos for lunch, no veg, no fruit, lots of processed junk, than for you.

I also agree with whomever said do full fat yogurt - and I'd try greek yogurt were I you. It's got a TON more protein, low sugar and your brain and nervous system are made up of/run on a good percentage of fat and nervous systems need fat to develop. Which is not to say, obviously, chow down on Big Macs, but full fat greek yogurt or healthful oils are very beneficial.

As to your veg thing, have you tried other preparations? I dunno what you like so it's hard but... spinach and mushroom quesadillas, with whole wheat tortillas, some cheese, sauteed fresh wild mushrooms and wilted spinach, then oven baked and served with plain greek yogurt and salsa for dipping? Maybe?

Veggie soup? Whole wheat pasta with lots of veg in? Stir frys? If you can't eat them at the moment, you can't, but you just might not have thought of stuff, so...

 

[Kimbysmom]

Awe, you sound like me when I was pregnant with my dd. I have a very rare form of nephritis in both of my kidneys and wasn't supposed to be able to have children at all. So when I found out I was pregnant, I made sure that I took perfect care of myself. And I did great for that first trimester. I wouldn't have had to worry about the fish though, because I couldn't keep it down anytime during my pregnancy .

However, the further along I became, the more I relaxed. Fortunately, I craved relatively healthy food in my second and third trimesters (any kind of pretzels, strawberries and lettuce, yes lettuce, all by itself .) I also gave into my urge to eat a nice greasy pizza slice (or three) every once in awhile, and I have a very healthy, active seven-and-a-half year old today.

I think it's natural to worry about these types of things during the beginning of your first pregnancy, but I agree with others, to not let it consume and stress both you and your baby out. Congratulations!