Is basic etiquette just completely dead??

hlg22

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I was always taught that when receiving a wedding invitation when you are single, the envelope will tell you whether you are receiving a plus one - i.e., if I receive an invitation addressed to "Ms. hlg22 and Guest", then I am invited to bring a guest. On the other hand, if I receive an invitation addressed solely to "Ms. hlg22", then the invitation is extended to me alone. I also thought this was pretty much common sense.

So my sister is getting married next month. She is very stressed with wedding planning, and they are on a tight budget and also (obviously) have a limit on guests at the venue, so they were not able to extend "plus one" invites to guests who are single and not seriously dating anyone. Invitations have gone out, and they've now had three people so far who did not receive a plus one but have rsvp'd for themselves and a guest. One person who did this is actually a close friend of mine, who rsvp'd for herself and her roommate (platonic, not dating, my sister and her fiance have never met him). When gently told that the invite was just for her, she said "oops, sorry, my etiquette fail," and I thought it was over, but then found out that she had texted my sister to say that her roommate really wanted to come (to the wedding of people he's never met?!?!?) and would sit outside the tent and not eat (??? As if my sister would allow that). So now my sister feels bad, like she's disinviting someone, when he was never even invited in the first place! They had another guest rsvp for a plus one who has already booked airfare and hotel for them both, so she doesn't really feel like there's anything they can do about that. They will be able to squeeze these few in if they have to but if they get many more it will be a problem, and it is taking away from a few additional people that they would like to invite if they have space - coworker friends, etc. Are people really that clueless about etiquette, or do they just figure that the hosts/bride and groom won't tell them "no?" I am floored, and feel sorry for my poor sister who is calling me to vent but is too nice to decisively tell these people that they can't just add whoever they want on to their invitations!
 
It could be social insecurity; a person who is invited alone is afraid there will nobody for them to chat with during the social time.
 
I have never received an invitation that wasn't "and guest" and most of my friends invited all singles and a + 1 for their weddings but if I did receive one that wasn't "and guest" and I was single I wouldn't bring anyone or RSVP for anyone else. That is a bit presumptuous.
 

I think it is unreasonable to believe a single person would not want to bring a date to a wedding.
 
That is a tough one. Now you know why people do destination weddings. ;)

That being said inviting "singles" is a very tricky business. Most older singles do not want to come to a wedding alone. It stinks. Honestly if you are on THAT tight of a budget, ditch the singles I suppose if you cannot afford a guest with them. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't here.

Your sister is just going to have to reiterate NO unfortunately. If her friend ditches, then so be it.
 
It used to be unheard of to allow a single person to bring a guest -- that's one reasons weddings were such a great place to meet people, they were full of dateless singles!!
 
Well, I guess it is bad etiquette.

I've never been a Miss Manners myself but I couldn't imagine inviting a single adult to that sort of a function and not including an "and guest." I also really don't have much of an ability to rate where everybody is in their dating lives as serious enough to warrant a couple invitation. Is that commonly done?
 
I think it is unreasonable to believe a single person would not want to bring a date to a wedding.

I think it depends on the guest list. For our wedding, we had to limit our list do to space. We invited many single people to our wedding, his friends and my friends, and they all knew each other. Most of them went to high school together, or met through us over the 6 years we dated.

The deal was, if any of them began a relationship before the wedding, that person could come. However, DH's friends were a bunch of players at that time, and their dates would have consisted of that week's hookup. There were also single people who probably wouldn't have had anyone to bring.

A good friend of mine got married soon after college. The only dates that were invited were those who were in the picture at the time of the engagement. I started dating DH before the invitations even went out, but he was not invited. Did I have a good time? Absolutely! I had a lot of friends there, some with dates, some without.
 
I think it depends on the guest list. For our wedding, we had to limit our list do to space. We invited many single people to our wedding, his friends and my friends, and they all knew each other. Most of them went to high school together, or met through us over the 6 years we dated.

The deal was, if any of them began a relationship before the wedding, that person could come. However, DH's friends were a bunch of players at that time, and their dates would have consisted of that week's hookup. There were also single people who probably wouldn't have had anyone to bring.

A good friend of mine got married soon after college. The only dates that were invited were those who were in the picture at the time of the engagement. I started dating DH before the invitations even went out, but he was not invited. Did I have a good time? Absolutely! I had a lot of friends there, some with dates, some without.

Yes and age.

If you are twenty something it is easier to be a single than in your 30's and up.
 
I think it is unreasonable to believe a single person would not want to bring a date to a wedding.


:thumbsup2 While I certainly can understand your sister's dilemma as far as expenses go I think she should have made better accommodations for the single people she invited. Not everyone is comfortable going to a function like a wedding alone. I know that if I was single I could never go to one (outside of the family) by myself. When I got married my one single friend brought a date with her whom I had never met. So what, I was happy knowing that she was having a much better time with him there than if she had come alone, not knowing many people.
Really, how many extra people are you talking about 2-3?
Good luck to your sister on her upcoming wedding! :)
 
Yes and age.

If you are twenty something it is easier to be a single than in your 30's and up.

Agreed. We got married when we were 26, and none of our friends were over the age of 30. We did give in and invite DH's old roommates' new roommate, even though we didn't know him very well, because they begged us. :confused3 Nothing like spending $100 to feed a stranger so he wouldn't feel left out.
 
I think it's rude to add people to the RSVP but I also think it's inconsiderate to invite single people without a guest, especially the person who has to travel from out of town.
 
I think that techinically, yes, the "and guest" or "plus" one shoudl be sated on teh invite, and if not then that means you are not being invited to bring a guest, so it is rude to assume you can.
On the other hand, I think it is rude to invite an adult and not allow them to bring a date to a large scale and couple heavy function like a wedding.

So, basically I think the bride and groom as well as their guests were rude.
 
It could be social insecurity; a person who is invited alone is afraid there will nobody for them to chat with during the social time.

I have anxiety especially with unknown social situations. However, I would NEVER RSVP a "plus guest" unless a guest had been invited! I wouldn't just add that person on. That is just flat out bad form.
 
I've also got social anxiety and I wouldn't bring a guest if the invite didn't say "and guest" or "plus one"... But I'd also RSVP no (politely) if I was expected to come to a wedding alone.
 
:thumbsup2 While I certainly can understand your sister's dilemma as far as expenses go I think she should have made better accommodations for the single people she invited. Not everyone is comfortable going to a function like a wedding alone. I know that if I was single I could never go to one (outside of the family) by myself. When I got married my one single friend brought a date with her whom I had never met. So what, I was happy knowing that she was having a much better time with him there than if she had come alone, not knowing many people.
Really, how many extra people are you talking about 2-3?
Good luck to your sister on her upcoming wedding! :)

I am single, in my 30s, and the maid of honor for this wedding - I did not get a "plus one" either. I guess I don't understand people who don't feel like they can go anywhere alone. I am an introvert, and I have gone to plenty of weddings by myself. If I felt like I would be uncomfortable because I didn't know anyone and would have been alone, I would just decline the invite - I understand that it's the bride and groom's special day, not mine, and would never have felt like they needed to make "accommodations" for me. :confused3
I am sure they would have loved to have had a ginormous wedding and let everyone bring whoever they wanted, but as mentioned, that is not possible for a variety of reasons.
 
I think it is unreasonable to believe a single person would not want to bring a date to a wedding.

Of course they might Want to, but is it maybe equally unreasonable to Expect to?

My one friend is getting married in the Spring. She had room for 100. 80 are family.
she has invited 7 couples.
Leaving her with 6 more invites.
Should she only choose 3 of her single friends, or wouldn't it be nicer to include 6 and have more people she cares about at her wedding?



One equal (or worse) etiquette jump I have noticed increasingly is people bringing children who weren't invited (or without checking first). 5 People did this at a wedding I went to recently, the kids were big enough to need their own chairs the seating arrangements had to be re-worked last minute.
 
Sometimes I think people are not "up" on proper etiquette.

I received a wedding invite for myself only (addressed to just me, no guest.) However, inside the card, the RSVP card had spot to check if you were attending or not, and a blank line and asked how many guests if you checked yes, so it looked like you could bring someone if you wanted to. I only replied 1 since it was only addressed to me, but I could see how some would be confused. She had issues because many folks replied 2. Sometimes I think it's just an honest mistake and not a plot to bring an extra uninvited guest.
 
This is a bigger problem IMO!!! Don't bring kids to a wedding!

One equal (or worse) etiquette jump I have noticed increasingly is people bringing children who weren't invited (or without checking first). 5 People did this at a wedding I went to recently, the kids were big enough to need their own chairs the seating arrangements had to be re-worked last minute.
 

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