Is Al Gore a traitor or has he simply lost his mind?

[Charade]

No one trashed America. Bush and his policies were trashed, oh, I forgot, one in the same nowdays. How unpatriotic of me.

No one called you unpatriotic so stop with that nonsense.

Gore didn't say "Bush and *his* policies", he said American. Which reflect on all of us in America. Last I checked, you and I are all part of America.

But the bottom line is, he grossly mis-characterized the treatment of Muslims after 9-11.

I really have to wonder why he was there and what he was trying to accomplish. Aren't you curious?

 

[cardaway]

I really have to wonder why he was there and what he was trying to accomplish. Aren't you curious?

The same can be said about this thread yet I don't see anybody who supports Bush calling out the OP for the way she started all of this.

 

[eclectics]

No one called you unpatriotic so stop with that nonsense.

Gore didn't say "Bush and *his* policies", he said American. Which reflect on all of us in America. Last I checked, you and I are all part of America.

But the bottom line is, he grossly mis-characterized the treatment of Muslims after 9-11.

I really have to wonder why he was there and what he was trying to accomplish. Aren't you curious?

I already went through this ad nauseum with Dawn. I doubt he was trying to "accomplish" anything. He is not running for any office and is free to speak his opinion. Yes, he was most likely paid to speak. Most of these junkets featuring any political figures are paid for by someone. My take on his wording? American=Our policies at the time frame in question=George Bush. Curious? Not really. Is it some sort of Arab PR plot? Of course not. If the Arabs are unhappy at their treatment, all they have to do is contact the President himself. Saudi Arabia is our friend, right? Did the President or any high Republican official have a cow over this and plaster his/her outrage over the media for a month? No. The man spoke his mind and just because you and some don't like the content, you simply can't throw the "treason" or "traitor" word around and not expect a lot of people to take offense. Pat Robertson cause quite a International stir with his Chavez comments and I don't recall those two terms being applied to him. Unless Al Gore is furnishing arms, cough Iran Contra cough, to the terrorists, he can say whatever he wants, whenever he wants. And so can George H. Bush and Bob Dole, and any other retired Republican, if they so choose.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Maybe Al Gore and Jimmy Carter could have a bash-a-thon tour around the globe. See if they can build up more resentment toward our country and our brave, world-helping troops.

Maybe Al and Jimmy could pass the cup and get back the millions we give to other countries every year. Imperialist Yankee go home! (but we'll keep your dollars).

You would think that "statesmen" (former Presidents and VP's) would use their freedom of speech more wisely.

 

[eclectics]

Maybe Al Gore and Jimmy Carter could have a bash-a-thon tour around the globe. See if they can build up more resentment toward our country and our brave, world-helping troops.

Maybe Al and Jimmy could pass the cup and get back the millions we give to other countries every year. Imperialist Yankee go home! (but we'll keep your dollars).

You would think that "statesmen" (former Presidents and VP's) would use their freedom of speech more wisely.

If anyone is guilty of causing anti American resentment, I'm sure Al Gore and Jimmy Carter aren't at the top of many lists. Former Presidents and VP's don't automatically become "statesmen". Call me crazy but I think you have to actually want the title as opposed to being drafted. George H. Bush, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, yes. Al Gore, Dan Quayle, Gerald Ford, no. Btw, I dislike George H. Bush's views on just about everything but he is one hell of a statesman and he does a lot of good things around the world. I don't go around bashing him because I don't like his politics or what he says in his speeches. You could try to give Jimmy Carter the same courtesy for the good things he does.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

If anyone is guilty of causing anti American resentment, I'm sure Al Gore and Jimmy Carter aren't at the top of many lists. Former Presidents and VP's don't automatically become "statesmen". Call me crazy but I think you have to actually want the title as opposed to being drafted. George H. Bush, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, yes. Al Gore, Dan Quayle, Gerald Ford, no. Btw, I dislike George H. Bush's views on just about everything but he is one hell of a statesman and he does a lot of good things around the world. I don't go around bashing him because I don't like his politics or what he says in his speeches. You could try to give Jimmy Carter the same courtesy for the good things he does.

Carter is good with hammer and nails.

Regardless if they are on the top of any resentment list or are recognized as "statesmen," many people across the world know who they are (or were), and as such, they should use their freedom of speech more wisely. I do not understand what they think they are accomplishing with many of their anti-administration and/or anti-American rants on foreign soil. It seems they are stirring up resentment with no up side.

 

[eclectics]

Carter is good with hammer and nails.

Regardless if they are on the top of any resentment list or are recognized as "statesmen," many people across the world know who they are (or were), and as such, they should use their freedom of speech more wisely. I do not understand what they think they are accomplishing with many of their anti-administration and/or anti-American rants on foreign soil. It seems they are stirring up resentment with no up side.

I'm sure they appreciate you telling them what they should or should not say. Again, the only thing they are "accomplishing" is speaking their mind whenever and wherever they please. If you don't like it, well that's just too bad. I find it kind of ironic that after the 2000 election you folks told everyone who would listen that Al Gore is washed up, insignifigant, a sore loser and whatever comes out of his mouth should be ignored. Now, when he gives a speech that is offensive to the Bush backers, he is suddenly a "Statesman" and a official voice of American values. Please, give us all a break and make your mind up! I know you would love to have it both ways, but it doesn't work that way unless you want to be a hypocrite.

 

[Charade]

The same can be said about this thread yet I don't see anybody who supports Bush calling out the OP for the way she started all of this.

You don't see a difference between how and where the OP expressed their opinions about what Gore did and where Gore made his comments?

And to add insult to injury (in my opinion), he got paid for it. Doesn't *that* at least bother some of you?

Probably not because he's a private citizen and can do/say what/where he wants.

So is/can the OP.

 

[Charade]

Unless Al Gore is furnishing arms, cough Iran Contra cough, to the terrorists, he can say whatever he wants, whenever he wants. And so can George H. Bush and Bob Dole, and any other retired Republican, if they so choose.

Then why are we even having this discussion?

 

[LakeAriel]

Carter is good with hammer and nails.

Regardless if they are on the top of any resentment list or are recognized as "statesmen," many people across the world know who they are (or were), and as such, they should use their freedom of speech more wisely. I do not understand what they think they are accomplishing with many of their anti-administration and/or anti-American rants on foreign soil. It seems they are stirring up resentment with no up side.

Carter is a humanitarian and a diplomat. Having followed GWB all these years you forgot what that means.

 

[Viking]

You would think that "statesmen" (former Presidents and VP's) would use their freedom of speech more wisely.

IMHO it is more important that the present President uses his freedom of applying military power more wisely Although 'wise' and 'Bush' don't get together very well.

 

[cardaway]

I find it kind of ironic that after the 2000 election you folks told everyone who would listen that Al Gore is washed up, insignifigant, a sore loser and whatever comes out of his mouth should be ignored. Now, when he gives a speech that is offensive to the Bush backers, he is suddenly a "Statesman" and a official voice of American values. Please, give us all a break and make your mind up! I know you would love to have it both ways, but it doesn't work that way unless you want to be a hypocrite.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I'm sure they appreciate you telling them what they should or should not say. Again, the only thing they are "accomplishing" is speaking their mind whenever and wherever they please. If you don't like it, well that's just too bad. I find it kind of ironic that after the 2000 election you folks told everyone who would listen that Al Gore is washed up, insignifigant, a sore loser and whatever comes out of his mouth should be ignored. Now, when he gives a speech that is offensive to the Bush backers, he is suddenly a "Statesman" and a official voice of American values. Please, give us all a break and make your mind up! I know you would love to have it both ways, but it doesn't work that way unless you want to be a hypocrite.

It's not offensive just to Bush backers, it's his raising resentment against America with lies and half-truths that bothers me (and others), especially during time of war.

Your quote:
"Again, the only thing they are "accomplishing" is speaking their mind whenever and wherever they please."

That's the whole point of what I and others are saying. Why Al? (Even children speak their minds.)

I never said he's an official voice. I'm saying that since the world knows who he is, he has the responsibility to speak responsibly and not rant with exaggeration on our treatment of Arabs or anyone else.

By "statesman," I mean a current or former high-level American govt. representative that the world knows. Not an official title or honor.

It's odd that so many on the left complain about our image in the world, but have no problem with big Al speaking irrresponsibly to hurt our image. That is hypocritical.

 

[eclectics]

It's odd that so many on the left complain about our image in the world, but have no problem with big Al speaking irrresponsibly to hurt our image. That is hypocritical.

Actions speak louder than any words can.

 

[eclectics]

Then why are we even having this discussion?

I have no idea. Ask Dawn.

 

[DawnCt1]

I have no idea. Ask Dawn.

Dawn thinks he is a treasonous nut case and this discussion has provided good conversation for a few days now.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Actions speak louder than any words can.

And we have taken more positive action (in deeds and financial aid) that any country in the world.

 

[mommyintn]

I've not read this whole thread but as someone from TN I can tell you in general he is not well liked among the "regular folks". When he ran for President he lost us his home state and since he first started in politics until now he seems to be somewhat delusional. The Al Gore from "back in the day" to the Al Gore now is a completely different creature.

 

[cardaway]

It's odd that so many on the left complain about our image in the world, but have no problem with big Al speaking irrresponsibly to hurt our image. That is hypocritical.

Speaking frankly about the damage already done probably helps our image. He certainly certainly did better than anybody officially in charge. I imagine "the left" is not the only group in the Western world tired of the garbage about these things coming from official channels.

 

[eclectics]

And we have taken more positive action (in deeds and financial aid) that any country in the world.

I don't know what you do for a living Joe, but you would make a wonderful spin doctor. Send a resume to Scotty.