Irked!

[NHdisneylover]

If you knew all that was going on you probably weren't enjoying the show. I went to see Slumdog Millionaire with my cousin last night, and as we got up to go she apologized for shushing the people behind us... three times. I didn't hear her or them but she could tell me their conversation word for word. I'm not going to pay $12.50 for movie tickets and then not pay attention.

As for the little girl singing, I have the reverse Pet Peeve: people who go to child friendly places and expect no children. I would have had sympathy for you if there was a kid singing along to Sweeney Todd, but at child favourite Beauty and the Beast?

I would be pretty ticked off if someone stopped a show like, some of the other posters mentioned. I paid to hear someone sing, not to hear people be scolded like school children. If the problem is that bad, take a quick break and get the theatre staff to address it

Heck, some of my best spent concert money is for Andre Rieu, if he's really on his game the aisles are filled with waltzing concert goers

I have to agree with DVC OKW here (and yes I am a mother and yes mine were little not that long ago they are 10 and 12 now). There is huge difference between a "Children's Theatre Production" that may be done locally and is inexpensive ($10 a ticket or less) and is truly aimed at an audience of very young children (these are generally 45 minutes or less in length, often have some "etiquette instruction" added in at the begining, etc.) and a full length production of a show which appeals to children. At the first, yes I expect there to be children who are learning the proper behaviours. There may even at times be encouragement to sing along at such a show (by the cast). Thus, I can put up with some wiggliness, whispers, etc. At the latter, the show is much longer and more intricate and written and designed to be highly enjoyable to adults even while appealing to children. A child should not be taken to such an event (and they are generally quite high cost) is s/he cannot sit through it and enjoy it without disrupting others. I like childrne a lot and love to see well behaved ones at the theater but I do not think it is good for anyone (including the child) to excuse rudeness because it was at a show chidlren enjoy--when we do, not only is everyone else's experience ruined, but the chidlren never learn and grow into the adults who talk through Avenue Q or Text through Wicekd, etc.

 

[rpmdfw]

If you knew all that was going on you probably weren't enjoying the show. I went to see Slumdog Millionaire with my cousin last night, and as we got up to go she apologized for shushing the people behind us... three times. I didn't hear her or them but she could tell me their conversation word for word. I'm not going to pay $12.50 for movie tickets and then not pay attention.

That's the point, I'm making. The distractions made it very difficult to pay attention. I wish I had your keen powers of concentration and focus so that I could have ignored the circus going on around me. It'd make my life so much easier.

As for the little girl singing, I have the reverse Pet Peeve: people who go to child friendly places and expect no children. I would have had sympathy for you if there was a kid singing along to Sweeney Todd, but at child favourite Beauty and the Beast?

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I have NO PROBLEM with children being brought to the theatre. I encourage it heartily! I have a problem with people who exhibit poor manners in the theatre. In the case stated it was a little girl. You'll notice I did not blame the child, I addressed the parent, as it was her fault for doing the child a disservice and not teaching her how to behave at such an event.

Yes, some events are more likely to have children in attendance, but that does not mean that MY enjoyment should be compromised for theirs. I have a real problem with parents who insist that I put the enjoyment of their little bra . . . er . . . darlings ahead of my own. Sorry. No go. It's like waiting for a parade at the Magic Kingdom. I don't wait for an hour so that some parent can push their way in front of me at the last minute saying "oh, but my KIDS want to see it!" Well, then wait like I did. I'm a guest too, and my ticket cost more than the kid's did. Why should I as a childless adult ever have to care about what thier child needs or wants(beyond the safety of children, that is)? That's their concern, not mine. I was taught to behave properly in such curcumstances because my parents cared enough to teach me to be a functioning, polite member of this society. And such lessons came with punishments if I didn't behave properly. Misbehaving has consequences, I'm glad they taught me that. I now expect that other people teach basic manners to thier children. Sadly many adults were not taught such, or have since forgotten.

I would be pretty ticked off if someone stopped a show like, some of the other posters mentioned. I paid to hear someone sing, not to hear people be scolded like school children. If the problem is that bad, take a quick break and get the theatre staff to address it

Heck, some of my best spent concert money is for Andre Rieu, if he's really on his game the aisles are filled with waltzing concert goers

It sounds like an entirely different situation. A concert where dancing is encouraged rather than the performance of a musical theatre piece where audience participated is not called for.

There is huge difference between a "Children's Theatre Production" that may be done locally and is inexpensive ($10 a ticket or less) and is truly aimed at an audience of very young children (these are generally 45 minutes or less in length, often have some "etiquette instruction" added in at the begining, etc.) and a full length production of a show which appeals to children. At the first, yes I expect there to be children who are learning the proper behaviours. There may even at times be encouragement to sing along at such a show (by the cast). Thus, I can put up with some wiggliness, whispers, etc. At the latter, the show is much longer and more intricate and written and designed to be highly enjoyable to adults even while appealing to children. A child should not be taken to such an event (and they are generally quite high cost) is s/he cannot sit through it and enjoy it without disrupting others. I like childrne a lot and love to see well behaved ones at the theater but I do not think it is good for anyone (including the child) to excuse rudeness because it was at a show chidlren enjoy--when we do, not only is everyone else's experience ruined, but the chidlren never learn and grow into the adults who talk through Avenue Q or Text through Wicekd, etc.

When I was a theatre major I LOVED the performances for the elementary school kids (whether I was onstage or working the lobby)! They were so much fun. And they could be really great audiences! I think it's very important to instill a love of the theatre in children. Thank you for teaching yours that the theatre is a wonderful thing!

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

Instilling manners in children is a lot of work, Rob. You have to first, understand the basic premise of social etiquette yourself, and then be capable of teaching a child that in certain circumstances, a more formal behavior is required.

You are asking much of today's parents it seems. There is far too much focus on the child's comfort, on the child's not being upset, on the child... on the child... where parents today would do well to teach their precious ones that the world does not revolve around them, and that they need to be a contributing member of society, not a constant grasping person and taker from society.

Now, before everyone gets in a huge uproar, there are good parents out there, many good parents. Unfortunately, there are far too many who do not want to take the time to teach their children those skills that will take them far in life.

 

[rpmdfw]

Instilling manners in children is a lot of work, Rob. You have to first, understand the basic premise of social etiquette yourself, and then be capable of teaching a child that in certain circumstances, a more formal behavior is required.

You are asking much of today's parents it seems. There is far too much focus on the child's comfort, on the child's not being upset, on the child... on the child... where parents today would do well to teach their precious ones that the world does not revolve around them, and that they need to be a contributing member of society, not a constant grasping person and taker from society.

Now, before everyone gets in a huge uproar, there are good parents out there, many good parents. Unfortunately, there are far too many who do not want to take the time to teach their children those skills that will take them far in life.

Yep. And those good parents with well behaved children make the rabble look that much worse in comparison.

 

[kitsch4]

Okay, so what's the Bob Carr?

 

[rpmdfw]

Okay, so what's the Bob Carr?

It's the poor excuse for a performing arts center in Orlando.

It's very out of date, uncomfortable, and has bad acoustics. But it's all we've got for now, so we're dealing with it as we can and heading to Tampa to see shows if possible.

 

[kitsch4]

I'm really surprised Orlando doesn't have anything nicer. Just thinking about that convention center you have. Not that that has anything to do with theater, but Wow!

 

[rpmdfw]

I'm really surprised Orlando doesn't have anything nicer. Just thinking about that convention center you have. Not that that has anything to do with theater, but Wow!

Last year the city and county voted to build a new arena, performing arts center, and stadium.

I think the "new studium" became upgrades to the Citrus Bowl.

The arena is now under construction just across I-4 from Church Street Station.

The performing arts center has been pushed back, and made last priority. No word on when they'll finalize the sale of the land, let alone when the ground breaking will take place.


So in theory, it IS coming, but not for a few years at least.

 

[OrlandoMike]

Boy your really pushing my buttons today huh?

Ya, the Magic need a new arena, but why should we pay for it? For those of you who dont know, the Magic are owned by the founder of Amway, a kazillionaire! Let him pay for it!

Now for the Citrus Hole! Two football games a year, and a monster truck pull! Do we really need to spend money on that? Expecially considering UCF just built a new state of the art stadium on the other side of town!

All of this money should be going to the Performing Arts Center! But alas, once again, the arts take back seat to sports!

OK my rant is over!

 

[rpmdfw]

Now for the Citrus Hole! Two football games a year, and a monster truck pull!

Don't forget that super-band geek thing you go to every year! They have that at the Citrus Bowl, too!

 

[OrlandoMike]

The Orlando show actually has a nick name.....

"Drums in the Slums"

 

[rpmdfw]

The Orlando show actually has a nick name.....

"Drums in the Slums"

How sad is that.


True. But sad.

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

I think the Bob Car Center is a reflection of Orlando overall. It is not an area known for its culture. Sorry for that sounding so stiff, not meant to, but honestly Orlando is nothing more than an overgrown cow town.

 

[OrlandoMike]

I think the Bob Car Center is a reflection of Orlando overall. It is not an area known for its culture. Sorry for that sounding so stiff, not meant to, but honestly Orlando is nothing more than an overgrown cow town.

And dont forget the lack of good restaurants!

It's getting better, but sadly only because some decent "chain" restaurants are moving into the area. Try to find a decent Mom and Pop place! Barney's, one of our favorites on Colonial drive, sadly may close soon.....

 

[NHdisneylover]

When I was a theatre major I LOVED the performances for the elementary school kids (whether I was onstage or working the lobby)! They were so much fun. And they could be really great audiences! I think it's very important to instill a love of the theatre in children. Thank you for teaching yours that the theatre is a wonderful thing!

Thank YOU for putting on working on shows for the kids. I didn't have to teach them a darn thing (other than good manners!)--all I had to do was take them once and they were hooked (and then DS reaslized he could perform and DD found out she can build sets and run follow spots and all hope was lost ).
We have, howver, completely fallen down in our duties as American Parents to teach our kids to enjoy watching organized sports It has something to do with neither DH nor I liking to do so ourselves--though the kids have atttended professioanl baseball games, hockey games, basketball games, etc. (I figure I have to at least let them decide for themselves if they like these thigns--I did try not to predujice them). In the end we all dislike sporting events (and all agree the most mind numbing way to spend an afternoon is wathcing a baseball game ). The result is that DS10 started a new school two weeks ago. I asked him Friday how he is getting along with the kids in his class. He replied that the boys are "all really nice but kinda boring. All they ever do is talk about baseball, soccer or Pokemon and not one of them had ever even heard of Wicked much less any other musicals"

 

[rpmdfw]

Thank YOU for putting on working on shows for the kids. I didn't have to teach them a darn thing (other than good manners!)--all I had to do was take them once and they were hooked (and then DS reaslized he could perform and DD found out she can build sets and run follow spots and all hope was lost ).
We have, howver, completely fallen down in our duties as American Parents to teach our kids to enjoy watching organized sports It has something to do with neither DH nor I liking to do so ourselves--though the kids have atttended professioanl baseball games, hockey games, basketball games, etc. (I figure I have to at least let them decide for themselves if they like these thigns--I did try not to predujice them). In the end we all dislike sporting events (and all agree the most mind numbing way to spend an afternoon is wathcing a baseball game ). The result is that DS10 started a new school two weeks ago. I asked him Friday how he is getting along with the kids in his class. He replied that the boys are "all really nice but kinda boring. All they ever do is talk about baseball, soccer or Pokemon and not one of them had ever even heard of Wicked much less any other musicals"

That's AWESOME!

 

[wallyb]

OK my rant is over!

... for today.

 

[NHdisneylover]

That's AWESOME!

awesome or wierd or just plain wrong depending on who you talk to

DH and I have said amongst just ourselves that had we had kids who loved sports and went through the seasons playing baseball, football, basketball, etc. we would absolutely support them and go to the games and cheer them on, etc. But, how lucky are we that we do not have to support that and instead get to support DS by going to dance recitals and musicals? (DD also though she is a black belt in karate--I do love to watch HER test for a belt htough I otherwise think it is pretty boring to watch as well--but karate is a sport where you only really do something that should be observed about 4 times a year so that works for me--besides I am comforted seeing how strong and confident she is and knowing she could hold her own against a lot of poeple if she had to )

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

I thought Barney's was closed? Yep, I totally agree. There really isn't a decent privately owned restaurant in the area.

There is Cedar's in Dr. Phillips. That's pretty good. Ceviche in Orlando, but that's a bit of a chain, eh? The one in Orlando is better than the one in St. Pete's was the last time we were there.

We had a little place here in Winter Garden, Zia's but it didn't last long.

Probably shouldn't bash on the greater Orlando area, as we did choose to live here and it is a free country, eh? Well, for some things.

 

[OrlandoMike]

From what I hear, Barney's is still open, but looking for a buyer. Not good news at all!