Interesting Conversation

[BWVDee]

Originally posted by MiaSRN62
I should've known this comment was coming.......

Different things appeal to different people and different people want or desire different things. Also different people are accustomed to and expect different things from many different venues including vacation resorts. I do not know why my opinion and what I expect from a premiere WDW resort and what qualifies for my family as a WDW deluxe resort, is deserving of your comment or the the frown smiley. What appeals to your family and what resort is the best fit for your family and your opinion of the DVC resorts does not bother me nor really concern or matter to me. Why should, what we desire and what we consider a good value for our money concern you????

 

[tjkraz]

Originally posted by tjkraz
Agreed. It won't be too long before the combined OKW and SSR owners outnumber those at all of the other properties combined.

Originally posted by BWVDee
And your point is???????

My post was an indirect response tthe statement of another poster which read "niether I nor any of my friends who DVC would own it if OKW or for that matter SSR were the only options."

Well, the fact is that it won't be much longer before owners at OKW and SSR combined will outnumber the owners of BWV, BCV and VWL. Clearly there IS demand for resorts in the vein of OKW and SSR.

Or, to use your own words, "Different things appeal to different people and different people want or desire different things."

 

[DrTomorrow]

Originally posted by BWVDee
And your point is???????

Why, the goal of all Evil Villians - (Walt Disney) World Domination! Bwahahahaha!

 

[tjkraz]

Originally posted by DrTomorrow
Why, the goal of all Evil Villians - (Walt Disney) World Domination! Bwahahahaha!

Thanks, I needed that.

You know, this entire thread is becoming more and more irrelevant with every moment that passes. It's filled with nothing but supposition and clouded memories.

Of all the resort wars that have been waged, I never thought I'd see the days of "my resort sold out faster than YOUR resort."

I'm with Pam on this one: "Hotcakes???"

(Incidentally, someone really needs to get a sound bite of former Colts' coach Jim Mora giving us a hearty dose of "Hotcakes?!?!" You sports fans know what I mean. )

 

[MiaSRN62]

Why should, what we desire and what we consider a good value for our money concern you????

LOL......ahhh, jeez.....not even gonna go here. And to think this all started over hotcakes

 

[BWVDee]

Originally posted by tjkraz
..........Well, the fact is that it won't be much longer before owners at OKW and SSR combined will outnumber the owners of BWV, BCV and VWL. Clearly there IS demand for resorts in the vein of OKW and SSR.

Or, to use your own words, "Different things appeal to different people and different people want or desire different things."

Never said there was not a demand for OKW or SSR or resorts in the vein of. What I said was: to say that OKW was a HUGE advantage to BWV in their abilty to sell out quickly, is not accurate or anywhere near true for many people.
As I also said before, the only way OKW bolstered sales at BWV, for many people, is that BWV was NOT OKW (the only other existing WDW DVC resort at the time) in almost every aspect, other than it is part of DVC. Many people did not want the OKW location and the whole OKW aspect, just like many people do not want the BWV, BCV, etc. aspect. Which is fine. What I do not understand, is why it is ok to say the hotel/close to parks type DVC resorts are not to your liking, don't do a thing for you, etc; but yet other people can not feel the opposite way.
I still do not see the point in whether the combined numbers of DVC members at OKW and SSR is greater than the others. So what? They are bigger resorts with more pts to sell so consequently they have more members. Obviously there is also a great demand for resorts in the vein of BWV, BCV, VWL, etc., or the thousands of members that own there today, would not exist!!!
Again different people want different things, value things differently etc. What is the problem? Some place a great deal of value on the sq floor footage of their vacation accommondations; to others this is not a major factor. Everyone has their opinions, their own wants, desires etc.

 

[tjkraz]

Originally posted by BWVDee
Never said there was not...

What I said was...

As I also said before...

I still do not see the point...

Yes, I can clearly read everything that you have said. Only problem is that none of my original comments were addressed to you, nor did they necessarily contradict any of your posts.

You asked "what is your point", and I told you. Case closed.

Don't even know why I'm having this conversation...

 

[Beca]

Originally posted by PamOKW
DVC was an unknown when Disney started to sell. I think the name "Disney Vacation Club" was itself a little confusing. What was it and where was it? If you looked at prices to stay for cash they would knock you over. Obviously, it was some special place for the wealthy to stay at WDW.

That is SOOO funny!!! I remember I took a trip when OKW was being built. I saw promos for it at Disney and was in awe! I did not realize it was a "timeshare", and I thought they were condos for "wealthy" people to buy as a second home!!! (Okay, I know that sounds really stupid...but, I was a REALLY naive 18 yr old...I don't think I even knew what a "timeshare" was). Seriously...I used to daydream about someday being able to own a "home" at WDW. I used to imagine how rich those people had to be to own there...little did I know, I would someday own!! Hee hee....it's just makes me laugh (and also VERY happy)!!!

Beca

 

[DrTomorrow]

Originally posted by MiaSRN62
LOL......ahhh, jeez.....not even gonna go here. And to think this all started over hotcakes

Or as Lisa Douglas would say, "Hots cakes"

 

[crisi]

Let me try this again. Removing hotcakes.

DH had a conversation with a guy who was one of the original DVC project managers. According to him, the original concept for DVC was much bigger (as many as 600 resorts) and was not WDW centric. But OKW (which was not called OKW, nor called The Disney Vacation Club Resort during concept) exceeded expectations for sales while the offsite resorts were dissapointing. So the program was recentered on WDW - which Disney discovered people will pay a premium for.

(See.... nothing about onsite resort wars. Nothing about BWV. The guy had done work on BWV - sounds like he left before VWL . I posted this because I thought the information that the original concept was far more offsite focused than I believe anyone here imagined was interesting. And because it seems to add weight to the supposition that there will be no more offsite resorts.)

 

[JimC]

Thanks Crisi for putting this back onto the original concept. I had learned that there were plans for more non-WDW DVC properties, but never understood it to be such a grand scale idea.

Then again if you look at some of the concpet models for past Disney projects they do dream bigger than they build. Example: the original downtown disney, village marketplace then, was pitched at the conept stage with monorail service -- there is a picture of the concpt model at this link:

http://www.disneypix.com/Recreation/DowntownDisney/ConceptLBV.htm

 

[jmminarik]

Originally posted by tjkraz
filled with nothing but supposition and clouded memories.

All some of us have are clouded memories. I've long ago gave up hope of being old and eccentric and am now striving for the more reachable goal of becoming Grandpa Simpson.

-Joe

 

[MiaSRN62]

Thanks from me too Crisi ---I got your point all along

 

[BWVDee]

Originally posted by tjkraz
Yes, I can clearly read everything that you have said. Only problem is that none of my original comments were addressed to you, nor did they necessarily contradict any of your posts.

You asked "what is your point", and I told you. Case closed.

Don't even know why I'm having this conversation...

I still do not see your point. Makes absolutely no sense nor does it have any bearing on anything. But thanks for attempting to try and answer my question, I guess.