Inspired by tonight's House episode...God...

Aidensmom

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Do you believe God talks to people? That He can heal people?


I believe that He talks to everyone, there are just a limited number of people that really listen. I also think He heals people at times, I do believe there are miracles. But I think sometimes it His plan is something we don't really understand, and healing is not part of it.
 
I believe that faith can work miracles, but whether it is the faith itself or God, I often wonder.
 
i beleive she talks to those who listen, and to an extyent i believe healing can be miraculous, how ever, i also believe thee healing may be her guiding the hands of the drs and nurses that we are placewd with
 
FroggyinArk said:
i beleive she talks to those who listen, and to an extyent i believe healing can be miraculous, how ever, i also believe thee healing may be her guiding the hands of the drs and nurses that we are placewd with

I agree completely with that.
 

I believe our intuition is God. I believe God heals us also.
 
I believe God has a plan, too, and even when bad things happen, and we can't possibly understand what the plan/lesson is, it is still there. Just may take a while to figure it out.
 
In a lifetime...there can be circumstances that really do make a person re examine faith.

Would a just God allow child abuse? Does this question get priority if the asker was a victim?

Would a just God allow such puzzling spectrum disorders as autism?

Would a just God sit by and idly watch parents struggle, disapair, suffer and grieve a child diagnosed within this spectrum. Knowing the pain suffered after a diagnosis, the life of that kid, all those dreams....never will be.

But that child is in front of you.

All the dreams you've had for that child, are so hard to let go. I don't know even how to reconsile religion into it.

Call me a heathen if ya gotta....but I do have a limit on what I can take.... :listen:
 
TurboKitty said:
In a lifetime...there can be circumstances that really do make a person re examine faith.

Would a just God allow child abuse? Does this question get priority if the asker was a victim?

Would a just God allow such puzzling spectrum disorders as autism?

Would a just God sit by and idly watch parents struggle, disapair, suffer and grieve a child diagnosed within this spectrum. Knowing the pain suffered after a diagnosis, the life of that kid, all those dreams....never will be.

But that child is in front of you.

All the dreams you've had for that child, are so hard to let go. I don't know even how to reconsile religion into it.

Call me a heathen if ya gotta....but I do have a limit on what I can take.... :listen:
:grouphug:

I'm sorry to hear about those struggles. Everyone has their own struggles. I wonder the same things sometimes. Like, why would God allow some people to have so many children and let them be abused when some people want children so badly and are unable to concieve.

Or, why do some kids have to die so young?

These are good questions, and I would certainly never call anyone a heathen for questioning their faith in God- because sometimes we are given more than we think we can handle.

But, and this is just my humble opinion... anyone can take it or leave it... I think especially with special needs children- they have special parents. Other parents just wouldn't do.

And i still don't know why some precious little children die young. But I trust that they have left an impression here on Earth that will never be forgotten, and many times accidents spur people on to create awareness and save lives.

And child abuse is such a terrible horrible occurrence that is all too common. :guilty: I won't go into details, but I didn't have a "perfect" childhood by any means, but I did learn and grow and heal, and I know how to do better with myown children when I have them. So maybe that was God's plan for me.... Just my thoughts.
 
beckmrk04 said:
:grouphug:

I'm sorry to hear about those struggles. Everyone has their own struggles. I wonder the same things sometimes. Like, why would God allow some people to have so many children and let them be abused when some people want children so badly and are unable to concieve.

Or, why do some kids have to die so young?

These are good questions, and I would certainly never call anyone a heathen for questioning their faith in God- because sometimes we are given more than we think we can handle.

But, and this is just my humble opinion... anyone can take it or leave it... I think especially with special needs children- they have special parents. Other parents just wouldn't do.

And i still don't know why some precious little children die young. But I trust that they have left an impression here on Earth that will never be forgotten, and many times accidents spur people on to create awareness and save lives.

And child abuse is such a terrible horrible occurrence that is all too common. :guilty: I won't go into details, but I didn't have a "perfect" childhood by any means, but I did learn and grow and heal, and I know how to do better with myown children when I have them. So maybe that was God's plan for me.... Just my thoughts.

beckmrk04, I gotta say...the reason I listed those particular instances...well I live them.

I do appreciate your input.

But, when I hear that worn out chestnut of "God only gives you what you can handle"....I want to use the handle of a really big axe willy nilly and let God sort it out.

I adore my kid, but there I times that I CAN'T HANDLE IT. Insinuating that there's a reason for her being who and what she is....is insulting to her and demeaning to me. And sometimes, vice versa.

It is VERY hard to integrate religion into this whole mess.
 
TurboKitty said:
beckmrk04, I gotta say...the reason I listed those particular instances...well I live them.

I do appreciate your input.

But, when I hear that worn out chestnut of "God only gives you what you can handle"....I want to use the handle of a really big axe willy nilly and let God sort it out.

I adore my kid, but there I times that I CAN'T HANDLE IT. Insinuating that there's a reason for her being who and what she is....is insulting to her and demeaning to me. And sometimes, vice versa.

It is VERY hard to integrate religion into this whole mess.

:grouphug: But you ARE handling it! It may not be easy, but you have not given up! I am sorry things are hard. But I agree, it takes special parents to handle special kids, and you obviously are one!
 
Aidensmom said:
:grouphug: But you ARE handling it! It may not be easy, but you have not given up! I am sorry things are hard. But I agree, it takes special parents to handle special kids, and you obviously are one!

:rolleyes: :lmao: :sad2: :charac2:

You still missed the part where I implied I am ready to GO BALLISTIC when anyone implies there was some sort of plan for DD and me to live together...

As if me being who I am...deserves or am okay with this...

I love her...but I am JUST NOW getting over grieving the daughter I will never have. I have never heard her tell me "I love you." I don't and will never have the typical little girl. I'll never have the little girl I dreamt of.

That dumb re-occuring dream everyone has...the past five years, mine has changed. My daughter's speech patterns changed. Her babytalk transforms into a baby-ism form of real language. I am so elated that my baby can communicate with the world......Then I wake up.

And my heart breaks all over again.
 
TurboKitty, I live my troubling world as well- but I have found an odd peace as of rather recently. I have re examined my faith and decided that G-d sprinkled the tools I need around in the strangest of places. I just have to encounter them and use them.

G-d has a plan, he throws more crap at me then he does most people my age but I have love and support from parents and friends.

Why would G-d create mental illness, where our own minds are turned against us? Mental Illness really has the power to destroy life. But I am strong and determined that it wont destroy mine. I want to live and not just survive.

I have an astounding insight into my disorders. I have been able to help teach others to help themselves, I feel free to share my experiences, there is no shame in my life for having a mental illness.

I have created good from a very "sad", "pathetic", "unfortunate" situation. I have a love/hate relationship with my head but I wouldn't trade my life for the world and I truely pity those who pity me.

TurboKitty, it's taken me a very long time to stop seeing myself as damaged and hopeless. Good Luck
 
TurboKitty said:
:rolleyes: :lmao: :sad2: :charac2:

You still missed the part where I implied I am ready to GO BALLISTIC when anyone implies there was some sort of plan for DD and me to live together...

As if me being who I am...deserves or am okay with this...

I love her...but I am JUST NOW getting over grieving the daughter I will never have. I have never heard her tell me "I love you." I don't and will never have the typical little girl. I'll never have the little girl I dreamt of.

That dumb re-occuring dream everyone has...the past five years, mine has changed. My daughter's speech patterns changed. Her babytalk transforms into a baby-ism form of real language. I am so elated that my baby can communicate with the world......Then I wake up.

And my heart breaks all over again.

I am not trying to insult or belittle you. My uncle was autistic, my niece has Downs Syndrome. I don't see either as a punishment on the parent or the child. But I do think it takes a strong parent to even live day to day with it. I know my brother has a hard time sometimes knowing his child is not "perfect" or the child he dreamed of, and I know it hurts him sometimes that my son or my sister's daughter don't have that type of problem (but believe me, they are not "dream" children either, there is no such thing). But when I watch him interact with her, and try to help her do the best she can do, I know he is a special parent, even when he is frustrated and at his wits end.
 
TurboKitty said:
beckmrk04, I gotta say...the reason I listed those particular instances...well I live them.

I do appreciate your input.

But, when I hear that worn out chestnut of "God only gives you what you can handle"....I want to use the handle of a really big axe willy nilly and let God sort it out.

I adore my kid, but there I times that I CAN'T HANDLE IT. Insinuating that there's a reason for her being who and what she is....is insulting to her and demeaning to me. And sometimes, vice versa.

It is VERY hard to integrate religion into this whole mess.

I don't blame you. I can't imagine the frustration and heartbreak and just pissed-offedness you must feel. You feel gipped for yourself and your baby girl. You are grieving what you wanted and what you and she did not get. :guilty:

And I don't know if it's God's fault. Or not. Or that if God only gives us what we can handle-because when I was suffering with the worst of my depression in December and ended up quitting my job, I definitely felt like I had been given more than I could handle. But, apparently not- because I am still here and determined not to let that rule "me."

What I DO know is that we don't get to pick the cards we're dealt. And I honestly don't think that people who say that there's a reason for your daughter to be the way she is are trying to be insulting OR demeaning. I'm sorry that's how you feel about it- and you can't help your feelings! But just know that when people say that, they simply mean it with their hearts.

And, maybe you'll come to terms and find some peace with your situation. I hope you will, because being mad at God will not cure your daughter or take away the abuse you have suffered, even if it does make you feel better right now. (I'm not saying you need to believe in God or not- that's up to you, but just that harboring anger and frustration is always a recipe for sadness). And I'm not saying you don't have the right to be angry and mad. Just don't let it color your perception of what you DID get. :grouphug:
 


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