Injustice at Test Track

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kidrericha

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Just returned from our first trip to WDW yesterday. While we had a blast, there was one incident that I felt had to be posted, it upset me so much (at the time). It also marked the first time I ever complained to anyone at a Disney Park.

One afternoon at Epcot, we return to use our Test Track fastpasses for that day. When we get to the entrance there are some folks blocking our way as the cast member is explaining that they cannot use their fast passes yet. (Quick footnote: I found this happens quite often at WDW. We are DL passholders and just never run into this problem like we did in FL.) While we were waiting patiently for these folks to move a gentleman (I’d say mid 40’s) with daughter in-hand (about 9-10 years) push through us into the fastpass return line, show their passes and walk on in
I called out, “Enjoy the ride, sir!” As this sort of thing happens quite often in the parks, I have a personal policy to make it known (in a not-so-rude way) that there were people they just cut in front of and to let it go after that. So, I figured that was the end of it. We eventually got through, so let’s enjoy the ride.

Then things got interesting. Inevitably, we were right behind Mr. Push-Through. While standing behind there I notice him pull a small ziplock bag out of his pocket filled with Test Track fastpasses. He then proceeds to place the fastpasses he had just presented into the bag and remove two others. Now, I know something stinks in Denmark.
The man was holding the newly removed passes in his hand, which was at his side. At this point my shoe conveniently felt a little loose on my foot, so I knelt down to tie it. While I was down there I saw that the new fastpasses were dated for December 10th 2008 (wouldn’t remember that, but it was the day before my 30th b-day). Upon seeing this, the version of me who let that whole cutting incident from before go had left the building.

I admittedly feel and certain pang of guilt for this (especially at Disney), but at that moment I was absolutely gleeful that I was going to finally deliver comeuppance to someone who not only cut in front of people waiting patiently, but clearly felt they were above the rules that we all follow for the sake of everyone’s enjoyment.
I’m really not usually one for revenge, but I believe in the “do unto others” philosophy. And I think that is especially applicable when at Disney. I mean, we’re all in this together, all trying to get that same feeling we love so much when we’re in the parks. The little things like letting someone enter a queue ahead of you or letting children in front of you for a better view of the parade. These minimally affect our enjoyment of the attractions, if at all. And yet, at the same time, they can make a world of difference for those other people.

Anyway, back to the story. So we’re approaching the fastpass collector… and I am sooooo ready to drop the dime on this sucka. Finally, we get up there and the man hands over the expired tickets and scurries off, at which point I say to the cast member, “Are you going to let that gentleman use fast passes from December of last year?”
The cast member (who I can’t remember the name of – had some stubble, was wearing glasses), looks down at the passes, shrugs his shoulders and proceeds to rip them up.

Now, I’m superfly TNT. First off, he stole my moment from me. I mean, this guy is a louse, alright. Not only is he cheating, he does it with his daughter right there. How can you like - nay – how can you respect someone like that? More importantly, I had become vocal about the situation, which prompted my own 9-year old little girl to start asking questions.
“What happened?”
“Why were his tickets for last year?”
“Why did he get to do that?”
“Why didn’t they do anything about it?”
This is where my anger with the situation really started to get directed properly. Forget my revenge. What kind of message does that send to my little girl about following the rules? I know some people may think I’m making a mountain out of a molehill (It’s just a ride; It’s not like he got away with stealing or murder). Well, I say bull corn on that. I want my kid to follow even the small rules. They wouldn’t be there if they didn’t matter.

We ended up passing by the gentleman several more times as the queue snaked around. Again, I’m ashamed to say that I did mutter words to him (“Real nice, pal”) and shot him dirty looks. He would look away each time. After the ride, I asked to see the show coordinator and made my frustrations known to him. He offered a voucher for some ice cream, which I appreciated, but wasn’t really the point. Now that I reflect on it a week later, I suppose I never would have gotten complete satisfaction. I mean, what are they going to do, frisk him and confiscate his baggie of Test Track fastpasses (and lord knows what other rides).

I’m just disappointed that when it really mattered – when there was clear cut proof brought to a cast members attention that someone was breaking the rules – they did absolutely nothing. Like I said, I’m not totally proud of where my emotions went. But, then again, I don’t think I’m completely unjustified.
 
I agree with you, I would have been royally POed!!:headache:
 
The fact that this man had a ziploc baggie FILLED with fastpasses is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, really, is it THAT serious? :confused3
 

I think you were completely justified in your actions. I would have done the same thing.

This guy wasn't just being rude to you - he was being rude to everyone who rode the same things as he did.

No, in the long run, it's not a huge deal.....but if he's already gone that far, who know what other shortcut scams he's using?

I can't believe the CM just shrugged it off! I think that's the worst part of the whole story! If you can't count on the CM's to watch things and ensure everyone gets their fair chance, well then we might as well all sink to that guys level!
 
I can't believe the CM just shrugged it off! I think that's the worst part of the whole story! If you can't count on the CM's to watch things and ensure everyone gets their fair chance, well then we might as well all sink to that guys level!
It was at that point that I didn't know who I was more upset with.

It is somewhat comforting to know that there is a community of people hear who really respect the rules and ettiquette you should follow in the park.
 
And that's my major beef with WDW....the CMs want to keep everyone happy. Too bad that they only anger those who are following the rules.
Let me tell you of my situation....
My two dd's and I were at BTMRR. We were thrilled to find out that we were going to be able to be in the back two cars...the CM made a point of telling me that since I was the blabbermouth, I was going in the next to last car, the two girls would get the 'primo' seat. So he instructed us to follow him to the end. But, he found a set of rows that had nobody in them...about 6 rows up from the end. Where were those people?? Standing in the last two rows!! They had decided to go there, rather than where the CM had put them. The CM was not a happy camper..he told them that they were wrong and that they had completely messed up his seating count. They just ignored him. Now...the guy in the third from the end row just said...'Isn't it amazing how some people act as if this is THEIR park??? Can you imagine how they would react if someone came into their workplace and did something like that?? Too bad some people are just so darned entitled!!'
You should have seen those faces....but they didn't say anything. They just got into the two back cars and off they went. I'm not sure what the CM should have done...I guess he couldn't have thrown them out of the attraction, but it sure would have been fun to see.

I wish Disney CMs would enforce rules. Man, to think that there are guests who don't even use their existing FPs if the time has past...forget the day, or even the year!!! Hopefully, what goes around, comes around for that guy.
 
Dude!!!! I can definately dig where you're coming from!!! I would have reacted the same way,for the same reasons! Rules are rules,like them or not! We want,and expect our children to follow the rules-at home,and anywhere else we may be.So this CLOWN must really be some kind of SCHMUCK for doing something like that! Like you said,we're all there to enjoy the same things-why cheat for goodness sakes?:confused3
 
I’m just disappointed that when it really mattered – when there was clear cut proof brought to a cast members attention that someone was breaking the rules – they did absolutely nothing. Like I said, I’m not totally proud of where my emotions went. But, then again, I don’t think I’m completely unjustified.

WOW, he invented some sort of super cut in line:sad2:, you were absolutely right about bringing it up to manager.:thumbsup2 CMs should pay attention to what they are looking at. Wonder what would happen if CM cought him, would this man be escorted from the park or what.
 
I found your story very interesting. I would have felt the same way. One thing that really stinks about this is that the people that were stopped in front of you for not having the right time for entry were really ambushed by this guy who not only didn't have the right time but not the right date either......
There are people that just skate through life....someday it will all catch up with him...
What comes around .... goes around....
hope you enjoyed the remainder of your trip....
:lovestruc
 
I understand your frustration. And I sympathize about having your moment stolen. :rotfl: But I figure it's up to the CMs to do the policing, not me. If the CM doesn't care or isn't paying attention, it's not something to get riled up about. Which ISN'T to say I would have been happy about it! It's also not a reason, in my opinion, to display poor behavior by making remarks in line. It's not going to make a bit of difference in the other person's actions, anyhow. If the CM did miss the date, he had already let the guy through and might have even been embarrassed by your calling him out on it.
 
Write to guest services, mention this abuse, and ask that Disney develop process changes that will prevent it.

The reason he has a baggy of them is he gets one set of valid fast passes to show at the entrance then rides over and over consuming the expired ones.

While one such louse won't have an impact, 30 people doing that could screw up the fastpass line on Soarin pretty bad!
 
These stories just emphasize how difficult a job the CMs really have. Trying to keep people happy - those following the rules and those who don't - must be very difficult. They don't really have a lot of choice with the rulebreakers. They can ask, and ask, and ask... but when they are ignored, they must choose to let it go or make a big scene, which I'm sure they instructed to avoid.

It's sad that there are so many people who feel entitled to special treatment at the cost of others. I think the best we can do is be considerate of the Cms and try not to let the behavior of jerks ruin our good time.
 
Oooooh that would have frosted my flakes!!! I completely understand your anger and frustration. The CM not doing anything is a total head shaker, but in the long run it is his daughter I feel bad for. This little girl looks up to her father - who apparently is fine with breaking rules and acting like he is better than others - she needs her Dad to be a good example of how to be a productive member of society - not a deviant. So sad......
 
CMs should pay attention to what they are looking at. Wonder what would happen if CM cought him, would this man be escorted from the park or what.
I can deal with him not paying attention. It's not ideal, but I would at least understand. To not do anything when it presented to him is a slap in the face.
 
I think for those of us that plan and dream about the perfect trip for our families, but follow the rules in doing so--feel so deceived when others profit from their dishonesty! I just cannot imagine planning to "cheat" the system! Hopefully they do not sleep well in their mouse eared PJ's at night!!
 
I'm all for following the rules - but why would you let someone like that even bother you???? This world is filled with people who will cheat and lie just to get a step or two ahead regardless of where they are.

Why not just be happy that you were at Disney World?

JMHO :hippie:
 
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