Injured at WDW!

Was he standing in the stair well?

All of the buses I've been on have a big yellow line on the ground and warning stickers on the door.
 
#1MMFan, she should not be so much concerned about compensation at this time. However, she should be concerned about getting some answers, some information, and protecting her rights. Perhaps the most unsettling thing for those that are injured in this early stage is lack of information, i.e. getting the runaround, not getting phone calls. All the injured person knows is that they didn't cause this, someone else hurt them, yet no one is wanting to talk to them.

One of the most important aspects is protecting your legal rights. Many insurance company adjusters put on the "bum rush" right at the beginning. They might throw $1,000 at someone to get them to go ahead and sign a release. I hear that from a lot of my clients when they first meet with me. Plus, I was an insurance adjuster for a long time, and saw my colleagues do it quite often. There is nothing illegal about it, and once that release is signed, that case is over regardless of what the injury turns out to be.

Taking care of your health doesn't mean you have to ignore the other aspects of what is going on. In reality, when you hire a lawyer, it takes the burden of everything else off the shoulders of the person, and let's them focus on their health. It let's me deal with all the crap so they don't have to.
 
Our country is going down this route too, and it's frankly frightening and disappointing.
 

Ducky4Disney said:
From what I understand, the umbrella fell over and the metal pole is what struck her across the back of her neck. She said that she was kneeling on the ground, so it had a long way to fall to get to her, it didn't just bump her. I'm not sure what umbrella she's talking about either. Maybe she was next to the "no bags" line where we know there are umbrellas? I'll have to ask.

Disney has "very" recently created a new bag check area for Epcot. The bag checks used to be in front of each turnstyle, but now they have a central bag check area that just has umbrellas.

Check out the following:

http://www.allearsnet.com/tp/wander/wander1.htm

Carol
 
Saratoga Souris said:
Was he standing in the stair well?

All of the buses I've been on have a big yellow line on the ground and warning stickers on the door.

I don't know if you were referring to my post about my husband getting his arm caught in the door or not, but in our case, he was not in the stairwell of the bus. It was extremely crowded and there were several kids who were holding onto the bars (We were near the back of the bus by the back door.) He didn't want to grab the bars that the kids were hanging onto so he reach over to grab a bar that was over a seat by the back of the door, and when he went to reach the bar, the door shut and caught his arm. He never felt Disney was at fault. The only complaint we had is that several guest yelled for the bus driver to open the door but he obviously never heard and then just pulled away and started driving. A few guests helped my husband pry his arm out. We never filed a complaint nor would we. It was just an accident.
 
Got Quattro? said:
Do I really have to answer this.

You need to get a clue.


I think you pretty much laid it out. Different story when it is about you, eh?

It has nothing to do with me needing to get a clue (so 90's).
 
Ok, umbrellaclaims.com is TOO funny! How ironic is that name?

The pictures on allearsnet.com explain a lot! I was wondering what umbrella she was talking about but now that I've seen them, I understand a little better. You're not close to the turnstyle anymore, so there is room to kneel and repack your bag. And those umbrellas are HUGE! Thanks for the link clkelly!

D4D
 
First of all I hope your MIL is feeling better.

I don't understand what the problem is here. Someone was hurt by a falling umbrella, which was NOT fixed to prevent further injuries. Nobody wants to get hurt, espically in a theme park in front of others. Many times when being injured you do not feel any pain, but it is afterward. Why would anyone critisize anyone being injured at WDW? I am sure all of you have been injured at one time or another...your first reaction is "I'm ok" but as the hours go by, you realize you are not ok. You also don't know what kind of condition this woman is in physically. What if she has brittle bones or is on the frail side? A young man could take a hit of a falling umbrella better than a small older woman. What if this hit a child in a wheel chair? The fact that the umbrella was not fixed really troubles me.

For future reference if anything happens to you at WDW or anywhere else, to protect you and/or the property I would do the following:

Get copies of everything while there
Take pictures - I know it sounds crazy and at such a time you are not thinking about it, but if you were able to get a pictures of the accident it is documented.
Get the full names of the CM involved.

It is not done with the intention to sue, it is with the intention to document the incident IN CASE further action is needed.
 
goofie4goofy said:
First of all I hope your MIL is feeling better.
Why would anyone critisize anyone being injured at WDW?

Perhaps they are Disney World stockholders!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
KevinFSU said:
Actually Hawk, your attitude probably has a lot to do with the way the public sees us. Great job representing the legal profession.

On the contrary, Hawk's comments prove that not all attorneys find "ambulance chasing" to be appropriate business behavior. Advertising by attorneys in general is pretty creepy. We know where you are-- we'll call you if we need you.

Best to the OP. I understand why someone would need an attorney to help work out who is responsible to pay medical fees. If you were hurt on my property, I (via my home owners insurance) would be responsible for your medical bills. That's why we all have liability insurance. OP's MIL shouldn't have to pay so much as a deductible for this situation. I'm disappointed that Disney is giving her the runaround. That kind of behavior is precisely why attorneys have jobs in the first place. Insurance companies do it best, but apparently Disney has taken a few lessons from them along the way. Too bad. :(
 
Ok, another comment.

There is no doubt in my mind that I am loyal to the profession and to the integrity of those who defend it, including my brother trial lawyers. Let me give you an example of what I am not loyal to:

Congress recently passed new bankruptcy legislation making it difficult for a chapter 7 filing (to the detriment of those who really need the protection of the United States Bankruptcy Code.) I received a call from a person who was shopping by phone for the cheapest rate. Our office protocol is free consultation. My office gave our rates and the person came in. Within the first five minutes it was obvious that the person had talked to other attorneys. The person went on to tell me that another attorney told him/her that he/she should charge the attorney fee that is within the presumption range to a credit card and then discharge the card in the Chapter 7. In addition, I was told, that advice was given to max out all cards and make a payment or two and then file them in thechpater 7 after 90 days and if that was done then they could charge the entire attorney fee on the card and discharge it all since they were going to wait 90 days. I told the client that I could not represent them and terminated the meeting.

While many reading this may not understand the time periods, but the attorneys reading this will know what I am talking about. This is exactly the type of behavior that is unacceptable in our profession, but it does occur.

Tort reform (personal injury) by all accounts doesn’t appear to be worth much. What’s really sad and frustrating though is the fact that our system of "justice" is so unjust and it certainly doesn’t address the basic evil aspects of our country’s "personal injury industry."

Many trial lawyers have succeeded in fashioning a system whereby people are encouraged not to take any responsibility for their own choices and actions. They are encouraged to try to find someone else to blame if they suffer any kind of misfortune in life.

Anyone can sue for anything, no matter how frivolous. It makes no difference what the truth is. A jury may still find a plaintiff liable for millions of dollars even if the plaintiff did nothing wrong and practiced the standard of care. The plaintiff is forced to pay something or get buried in legal fees anc costs.

Don’t get me wrong, there are people who are genuinely hurt by the acts of another and need the advice and help of a good personal injury attorney. Unfortunately, the disingenuous are making it tough on everybody.

It is not all the fault of the attorney or the public. When I went to law school, the LSAT (law school test) to get intolaw school had to be a minimum of 165 for admission into a fairly good school. Now it is 125!!! What is happening is that law schools are lowering their standards in order to keep tuition dollars coming in to pay for the schools, teachers, libraries etc. Many of the now graduate derelicts can’t keep up with the finesse of the profession and end up becoming the so-called “ambulance chaser” or “counselor of the fine line”. Most professions have them, like a skeleton in the closet, we try to avoid them. In the end they don’t make it, get disbarred or suspended from the practice all together. Unfortunately, they leave a lasting impression upon the public that gives the entire profession a black eye.

Am I blunt, yes! I am the first to admit I have a terrible bedside manner as many of you have noticed in previous posts. I believe that many of you understand the reality I describe, and like I said before only society can remedy it.

Tim/Hawk
 
Hawk said:
Ok, another comment.

There is no doubt in my mind that I am loyal to the profession and to the integrity of those who defend it, including my brother trial lawyers. Let me give you an example of what I am not loyal to:

Congress recently passed new bankruptcy legislation making it difficult for a chapter 7 filing (to the detriment of those who really need the protection of the United States Bankruptcy Code.) I received a call from a person who was shopping by phone for the cheapest rate. Our office protocol is free consultation. My office gave our rates and the person came in. Within the first five minutes it was obvious that the person had talked to other attorneys. The person went on to tell me that another attorney told him/her that he/she should charge the attorney fee that is within the presumption range to a credit card and then discharge the card in the Chapter 7. In addition, I was told, that advice was given to max out all cards and make a payment or two and then file them in thechpater 7 after 90 days and if that was done then they could charge the entire attorney fee on the card and discharge it all since they were going to wait 90 days. I told the client that I could not represent them and terminated the meeting.

While many reading this may not understand the time periods, but the attorneys reading this will know what I am talking about. This is exactly the type of behavior that is unacceptable in our profession, but it does occur.

Tort reform (personal injury) by all accounts doesn’t appear to be worth much. What’s really sad and frustrating though is the fact that our system of "justice" is so unjust and it certainly doesn’t address the basic evil aspects of our country’s "personal injury industry."

Many trial lawyers have succeeded in fashioning a system whereby people are encouraged not to take any responsibility for their own choices and actions. They are encouraged to try to find someone else to blame if they suffer any kind of misfortune in life.

Anyone can sue for anything, no matter how frivolous. It makes no difference what the truth is. A jury may still find a plaintiff liable for millions of dollars even if the plaintiff did nothing wrong and practiced the standard of care. The plaintiff is forced to pay something or get buried in legal fees anc costs.

Don’t get me wrong, there are people who are genuinely hurt by the acts of another and need the advice and help of a good personal injury attorney. Unfortunately, the disingenuous are making it tough on everybody.

It is not all the fault of the attorney or the public. When I went to law school, the LSAT (law school test) to get intolaw school had to be a minimum of 165 for admission into a fairly good school. Now it is 125!!! What is happening is that law schools are lowering their standards in order to keep tuition dollars coming in to pay for the schools, teachers, libraries etc. Many of the now graduate derelicts can’t keep up with the finesse of the profession and end up becoming the so-called “ambulance chaser” or “counselor of the fine line”. Most professions have them, like a skeleton in the closet, we try to avoid them. In the end they don’t make it, get disbarred or suspended from the practice all together. Unfortunately, they leave a lasting impression upon the public that gives the entire profession a black eye.

Am I blunt, yes! I am the first to admit I have a terrible bedside manner as many of you have noticed in previous posts. I believe that many of you understand the reality I describe, and like I said before only society can remedy it.

Tim/Hawk


Here's an idea, since you obviously find modern society so corrupt: Maybe you should make a costume and start prowling your locality, surreptitiously fighting crime. You could, I dunno, be... the Hawk-Man! Oh now, wait, that's been taken...

In all seriousness, if you find your chosen profession so disheartening, why not just pull up stakes, as it were, and take on something more rewarding? I mean, why not? Oh, could it be the... filthy lucre?
 
letterdavidman said:
Here's an idea, since you obviously find modern society so corrupt: Maybe you should make a costume and start prowling your locality, surreptitiously fighting crime. You could, I dunno, be... the Hawk-Man! Oh now, wait, that's been taken...

In all seriousness, if you find your chosen profession so disheartening, why not just pull up stakes, as it were, and take on something more rewarding? I mean, why not? Oh, could it be the... filthy lucre?

Just because a person is disgusted with the turn his chosen profession has taken, doesn't make him a crackpot. It makes him a person with some moral standard. And to suggest that the ones with a strong moral backbone should leave the profession to the lowlives and charlatans...that speaks very poorly for our society. Would you suggest that other professionals behave the same way (although I'm sure said professionals are ALSO looking to support themselves and their families with their living)? Let's not attack those who hold others in their profession up to a higher standard...let's applaud them.

OP, hope your mom is feeling better every day, and it all turns out for the best.
 
I believe in high standards for all professions. Ethics and integrity above all else. But I also think that just because a lawyer advertises does not mean he is a lowlife or creepy, unless he or she promotes deception and bad behavior. Sometimes it takes publicity to let people know their rights and where to turn. Here is south Florida the Bar Association advertises a lawyer referral service and you can buy 30 minutes of advice for $30.00. Many of my clients (I am a social worker) use this service and it is a great way for them to find out some of the options open to them legally. I had a tenant problem and used it myself and it was great. These lawyers (who benefit from advertisements) are all in good standing and provide an important service. Finally, there are many people who do not even know where to begin when hiring an attorney, so they turn to those names they recognize, like the guy on late night television who advertises his or her services. Perhaps a public relations campaign that teaches people how to interview and select a good attorney would be in order? Action instead of criticism.

Name calling (graduate derelicts and ambulance chasers) does no good for the profession either. Perhaps those lawyers who score higher and have better professional ethics might promote their profession by teaching and mentoring new or struggling attorneys instead of finding fault.
 
Don't you just hate the self-righteousness of certain posters? This thread should be locked up.
 
The only reason it should be locked up is because there are certain people who can't seem to resist the urge to be mean spirited and who think they are better than others. Only unhappy people find it enjoyable to try and cut people down to make themselves feel or sound better. Therapy will help.
 
lookingforward said:
The only reason it should be locked up is because there are certain people who can't seem to resist the urge to be mean spirited and who think they are better than others. Only unhappy people find it enjoyable to try and cut people down to make themselves feel or sound better. Therapy will help.



AMEN!!!!!!


Let's put an end to all of this..........please....please....please

:sunny:
 
I agree. When we start using the word "hate" in posts then it is time to end it. Thanks for all who treat each other with respect. I tried my best to do the same.
I would rather be called self righteous than mean.
Bye.
 


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