Injured at WDW!

Hey Hey!!! Time out she says with a Disney Smile. I have been reading these posts over the past few days, including one of my own which does seem a little skewed also. I think that we should all try to remember that when reading these posts they do not always come across with the well intentions and love behind them. Those emotions or thoughts are difficult to convey and be heard by the reader. PLEASE, let's take the gloves off, take a deep breath and remember that even if we have differing opinions etc., I am sure that everyone's intentions are only coming from the goodness of their hearts....IMHO

:earsgirl:
 
Maybe I missed something... but what was the umbrella made out of??? Is it cloth... did your MIL get hit with one of the pokes in the neck?? I am sorry that she is in pain and that it even happened, but I just wonder how much damage a cloth umbralla could cause?? No trying to be insensitive, just wondering.
 
I hope your MIL recovers fully from her mishap. My mother fell in water in the ladies room floor @MK and medics were called. She has suffered from back/neck problems for many, many years and I was really afraid of what a new injury could do to her. I did not feel Disney was negligent in this case (one can reasonably expect some spilled water in a restroom used by hundreds of people) but I was disappointed that no one even bothered to check on her later even though they requested our resort info and home info.. Of course, being thoughtless isn't a crime, so we got over that part of it. One point I'd like to make from experience is that if there is fault assigned to another and insurance has already paid a claim, the insurance co. would be reimbursed from the settlement and then the injured party could also be entitled to additional damages for pain/suffering/loss of use, etc.....Just because the injured party's insurance has paid does not mean the injured party does not have a claim against someone who is found at fault in the accident. I wish your MIL the best.........
 
Lulu's Mom said:
Maybe I missed something... but what was the umbrella made out of??? Is it cloth... did your MIL get hit with one of the pokes in the neck?? I am sorry that she is in pain and that it even happened, but I just wonder how much damage a cloth umbralla could cause?? No trying to be insensitive, just wondering.


From what I understand, the umbrella fell over and the metal pole is what struck her across the back of her neck. She said that she was kneeling on the ground, so it had a long way to fall to get to her, it didn't just bump her. I'm not sure what umbrella she's talking about either. Maybe she was next to the "no bags" line where we know there are umbrellas? I'll have to ask.

To Laura001 - you are SO right! #1MMFan and I have PM'd a couple times and he was not happy with some comments I made in the "break it up" post. I apologized to him because I was not intending to offend him, just as his comments weren't intended to offend others.

Hey, we're human, what can you do about it? :rolleyes:

D4D
 

Ducky4Disney said:
From what I understand, the umbrella fell over and the metal pole is what struck her across the back of her neck. She said that she was kneeling on the ground, so it had a long way to fall to get to her, it didn't just bump her. I'm not sure what umbrella she's talking about either. Maybe she was next to the "no bags" line where we know there are umbrellas? I'll have to ask.

To Laura001 - you are SO right! #1MMFan and I have PM'd a couple times and he was not happy with some comments I made in the "break it up" post. I apologized to him because I was not intending to offend him, just as his comments weren't intended to offend others.

Hey, we're human, what can you do about it? :rolleyes:

D4D


Thanks so much, you are right we are all human. My comment was not aimed at anyone in particular, just so you know. It probably applies to most of us at one time or another... Guess us disney fanatics are a very passionate group. Thanks to everyone that IM'd me with your encouraging words of thanks. :cool1:
 
KevinFSU said:
I don't suppose the IM has skewed some numbers have they??? I would imagine I can find numbers the other way.

However, put your fears to rest. Here in Florida, prior to filing suit, we have to have the verified opinion from a provider of the same specialty opine that the medical care fell below the standard of care. I can't just go out and file a medical malpractice action.

Give me a break! You AIN'T the only game in town Buckwheat! I can find any "crackerjack box" MD to say what I want AT ANY TIME! I've been in the business for quite sometime. PM me and I'll give you some credentials. I’ve seen many of the commercials (jokes) on television when we are in Florida. My family gets a kick out of it and asks why we don’t advertise up here. Gee dad can you be on TV? It makes me sick, however I understand why the general public perceives us as vultures with no scruples. Maybe the medical profession has one up on us.

Some of the posts have it right, try reading them. I doubt you'll find much sympathy, except from the ones that don't have any claim and try to find one with encouragement from you know who! Am I bashing my profession, maybe, but only to those who treat it as a money machine at any cost; usually at the expense of others and not what most of us raised our right hands and swore to defend.

Sorry to those others who had to read this, but I'm in one of those moods this evening.

Tim/Hawk
 
I for one don't see why everyone always wants to sue sue sue, contact Disney first!!!!
 
bytheblood said:
So I guess that means that if you are involved in an accident that paralyzes you and takes the life of a loved one, your response will be "accidents happen, people get hurt, let's move on from this." Lucky for the person that would hit you I suppose. :rolleyes:

Do I really have to answer this.

You need to get a clue.
 
Alright everyone it's time to break this up. I thought we were all adults. By the way some people are acting, this seems more like elementary school than anything else. She has plainly stated that she is not going to sue first! She is seeking medical attention, will contact Disney and then (only if need be) sue Disney.

To those that think they are high and mighty because they have a college degree or that they are doctors listen up. You are not better than the rest of us. In fact, your attitude suggests that you have low self esteem and you need to beat other people up (so to speak) to feel better about yourself!
 
umaangel00 said:
To those that think they are high and mighty because they have a college degree or that they are doctors listen up. You are not better than the rest of us. In fact, your attitude suggests that you have low self esteem and you need to beat other people up (so to speak) to feel better about yourself!

I've been leaving this thread well alone for the last 24hrs, but I find this comment extremely offensive because as far as I can see, I am the only dr who has posted on this thread. I know conceited doctors aplenty, and I despise their attitude. Those who know me personally, know that I am NOTHING like that whatsoever. My goal has always been to be good clinically, but human above all. I am NEVER going to give any opinion on anything medical on these boards again because, clearly, my help is going to be construed as a chance to get one-up on others. It leaves me sad that you could suggest this. :guilty:
 
Ducky4Disney said:
From what I understand, the umbrella fell over and the metal pole is what struck her across the back of her neck. She said that she was kneeling on the ground, so it had a long way to fall to get to her, it didn't just bump her. I'm not sure what umbrella she's talking about either. Maybe she was next to the "no bags" line where we know there are umbrellas? I'll have to ask.
D4D
Where was she kneeling? There is no place to kneel. If she had to empty her bag onto that table (which is very rare), she would have to stand to put the items back in. If she just knelt down there, there would have been other guests behind her waiting. :confused3 (and possibly fall over her) I don't mean to be insensitive, I am just confused on her kneeling? Also if she was kneeling when the umbrella fell over, I would think that the rails & table would have prevented it from going a long way down :confused3 I don't want you to think I am doubting that the umbrella fell & hit her neck, I just cannot see her kneeling & it falling. Yes, I can see is topling over on her neck & back a bit if she was at the table. Was she the only person on line? Those umbrellas are very large, if there were others near her, they would (or could) have gotten hit with it as well. Again, I am not doubting that she was hurt, I just cannot picture how it happend... kneeling makes no sence, the guards would have told her to get up.
 
We just put our turkey in the oven, the weather in south Florida is finally cool and sunny, and there are no hurricanes building in the atlantic. For that I am thankful and determined to enjoy this day.

My husband's friends (after 26 years in the USMC) continue to servie in Iraq and we will have them in our prayers. We will also pray for those who live in Iraq and those who suffer in this country and abroad.

I hope that we can all put the anger away. I was one who got a bit offended by some of the posts in this thread but after reading some of the more thoughtful posts I decided to put the boxing gloves away. Its not worth it and I think I overreacted to certain comments. To those who emailed me and brought insight I thank you.

For me, I truly appreciate everyone' opinions and expertise, I just wish it could all be shared without anger.

Also, the OP and her family are in my thoughts because no matter how she got hurt or whose fault it was, I pray that she does not experience anymore discomfort.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING :flower:
 
Actually Hawk, your attitude probably has a lot to do with the way the public sees us. Great job representing the legal profession.
 
KevinFSU said:
Actually Hawk, your attitude probably has a lot to do with the way the public sees us. Great job representing the legal profession.


I’ll refrain from commenting to keep a sense of civility on the board. You know my position.

Tim/Hawk
 
Hi folks! I'm back!

To AMickeyFan: I really wish I had a better scenario for you. If I can get a reinactment I'll let you know ;). I think we should all head to the scene of the crime! Let's meet in Epcot, this Saturday! Wait a minute, now I'm just making excuses to go back.

I've actually been in touch with another DISer that was there that same day and saw an umbrella go down - twice! They didn't see it hit anyone when it went down, but I think it's amamzing that there is a witness to the type of event I'm talking about. I guess it really is a small world, or maybe it's just a big DIS!

I've talked to MIL a little more about it and it sounds like she is getting the run around. She has called to get a copy of the incident/accident report (whatever you call it) and no one seems to know about how to get one. When she went to her doctor she called Celebration hospital to have her radiology report sent over as well as her x-rays sent out. They said they needed a written consent, which is all HIPPA so I can understand that, and that her doctor office would have the forms. Goes to the doctors office, fills them out, faxes them over, and nada. They didn't fax the radiology report like they were supposed to, they snail mailed it and it's been a week with no sign of the report or the x-rays. It is holiday season and we're talking about hospital mail - so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

She has started the process of fact gathering and made the appropriate phone calls, but it seems like they are going to pass her around for a while before she gets anywhere. That is what is making her leary of trying to deal with them on her own. We're not talking about suing Disney so much as just applying the right pressure to get them on the ball.

Did that make sense?

I'll see if I can figure out what the heck she was doing when the umbrella fell. If you guys are up for the reinactment, let me know - we can have a little CSI Disney style!

D4D
 
Another common misconception: just cause you get an attorney doesn't mean that there is going to be a lawsuit. If there is a legal obligation for damages, a large majority of cases are settled without the necessity of a lawsuit. Attorneys and adjusters have a pretty good idea of what things are worth, so it will usually be settled without the need to file.

Ducky, as has been mentioned before, the reason attorneys get a lot of business is because the continuously get the runaround. Sounds like your mother is getting a nice dose of it.
 
Why would one feel obliged to gain compensation either in or out of court, at this stage? I don't understand. My priority would by my health.
 
If she gets jerked around by Disney I'd say call a lawyer. For some reason people (especially a big corporation like Disney) seem to open up their ears when one is involved. Not that she has to sue, but she needs to be heard and they aren't even willing to listen to her complaint, which like other people have said, get people more annoyed and then they sue!! I would say a good percentage of people would not sue if they got treated like humans.

I'm sure her health is her priority but her life isn't in danger I'm sure one emotion she is feeling is anger at disney's incompetence, especially if someone got hurt and they umbrella is continuing to fall over.

If anyone's interested I will be there next Thursday and I will be sure to visit the scene of the crime!! Actually, I will be sure to keep myself and my party away from any Disney umbella at any Disney parks!! Thanks for the heads up!!
 
I worked in a hospital in Florida, and when something adverse happened, we filed incident reports. However, they are not something that is discoverable in a court of law unless someone states in a patient chart that one was completed. We did not aknowledge to anyone involved that one had been filed. No one had access to it and it would not be shared with the parties involved. That could be why no one in the Disney organization has been in a rush to help you out with that.
I sincerely hope that your MIL's injury turns out to be nothing serious and in a short time she will be feeling like herself again.
 


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