Infant crying overnight

[dzorn]

It is unrealistic to expect a baby to not cry resort or at home.That's what they do. If you expect a completely quiet not a noise enviroment you will be disappointed. You could just as easily be woken up by someone going to the bathroom and flushing the toilet or early risers taking showers next door. May we expect these noises you bet. What I'm saying is this mother should not get over stressed by a few minutes of crying. There is a big difference between a baby crying for a few minutes or hours and college kids having a party next door for hours. One is a controllable situation for the people in that room another may not. Ideally babies would not cry, but that is their form of communication. Not every crying baby needs to be fed. You look for the source of the stress and try to eliminate it. It may be hunger or a belly ache, or diaper change or just scared of the unfamilar enviroment or many other things. Why would you feed a child if that is not the cause of the distress? Just to please some strangers I don't know. I don't think so, because that will not get rid of the stress. Which my start the cycle all over again. Would I try to eliminate the stress ASAP yea I want to go back to sleep too, but sometimes the easiest thing is not the best thing to do.

Obviously this mom is considerate of her neighbors or she would not be asking about it. I was pointing out that Consideration goes both ways.

There are many contributing factors to our societies obesity problem, the main one excess food along with decreased exercise. I believe food should be used for hunger not comfort. With that said You all are stressing me out. Where are the OREO"S!!!

Denise

PS to Mom Don't get overly stressed about a crying baby. They can sense your stress and it increased theirs.

 

[DMRick]

I would assume she would try to comfort her baby first. No one is saying she must breast feed. But why anyone would let a baby lay in a strange crib, in a strange room, working itself up, and prob being scared is beyond me. Five minutes in the life of a scared baby, is a long time. It's also a long time if that baby is waking up it's neighbors. If the neighbors aren't used to a small baby's cry, the chances are it would wake them, and 5 minutes or 10 minutes..if it wakes them, it's a long time.
Several of you mention how rude you think others are, by their behavior, and what bothers you. Well crying babies bother other people. We all have different thoughts on what would bother us. When I brought my three kids places, I just assumed it was my job to keep them quiet, and if that meant a midnight walk, well, then that was what we did. If it meant I had to nurse a nursing baby (this is a baby that gets nursed during the day, correct? If not, then that won't work, and walking the baby might) one or two times in the week period (or even every night) to keep the noise level down, than that's what I did.

I consider being considerate not letting your tolder run up and down, jump on the bed, play with the handel on the conecting room door. No drunk loud adults, yelling, partyng loud music. A breif crying baby is not in this catagory

 

[hollyb]

Please don't let her cry!!!

1. she is in a new bed
2. her normal routine is way off
3. how do you know she isn't hungry
4. I would be really p'o'd if a baby was left to cry and it woke us all up.

JMHO

 

[GurGie]

Perhaps you could ask for an end room on the lower level so you'd have at most 3 neighbors. You could leave them notes or call the rooms and leave them messages about the possibility of your little one crying during the night. At lease that way they will be informed and can get earplugs in advance. At leaset they will know you are trying to be considerate.

 

[Hannathy]

Thank you DMRick that is exactly what I was trying to say. I don't care if you feed it or not BUT a hotel room is not where you leave a baby cry it out. She needs to try and deal with the crying whatever method she uses. A door slamming may wake me but it is over and I go to sleep quickly, a crying baby continues for 5 minutes and I lay there hearing it and then I am awake for 5+ minutes, big difference.

 

[TinkerbellMama]

I say stick a "xxxx" in her mouth!

But I say that because my own son still night nurses and I have absolutely no problem with it! What works for me might not work for everyone, however. I just feel very strongly that children who cry in the night need to be responded to, especially an infant waking in unfamiliar surroundings. Whether the mom decides to nurse her at that time is up to her, but I definitely feel some comforting is in order. Of course, the neighbors would certainly appreciate this consideration, as well!


As for the post claiming that breastfeeding on demand, at night or at any other time, can contribute to obesity: absolutely false. In fact, quite the opposite is true. It also will not rot the teeth the way formula or cow's milk can. Breastmilk contains compounds which prohibit cavity-causing bacteria. For more information, please visit www.lalecheleague.org or www.kellymom.com. That is my soapbox moment for the day!

 

[grlpwrd]

Experts say you should never nurse your baby to sleep. Leaving residual milk in there mouth can rot newly emerging teeth.

Side note for those with a different opinion. We are an obese society today because many use food for comfort) There are other ways to comfort a baby. Mine use to love the stroller.

These statements are not entirely correct.

There are inconclusive studies regarding cavities and the night nursing child yet some studies have shown that night-nursers don't have any more cavities than children who are already weaned. Plus, there was a recent study proving that breastmilk does not have any cavity-inducing properties. It's more so for extended nursing beyond the first year because of food and not brushing teeth.

Scientific research has proven that breastfed babies are leaner at one year of age and less likely to be obese later in life.

kellymom.com also has a great section on night weaning if you and baby choose to do so.


I was in the same situation as the OP and I would not let baby cry just for that trip. I would breastfeed on demand then and get back to normal when you return from your trip. It's just like when I go on vacation... I eat all the chocolate pudding I want and then get back to my regular eating habits when I get home.

GL!

ETA: Yes, that's true - you beat me to it.... Breastmilk contains compounds which prohibit cavity-causing bacteria. That is exactly what I read except I didn't know how to put it in words.

 

[jodifla]

I don't think 5 minutes is that long for a baby to cry. People who don't want to hear crying babies shouldn't go to Disney World, IMO.

I would just use your best judgment on the crying v. breastfeeding.....

 

[Suzanne74]

Several of you mention how rude you think others are, by their behavior, and what bothers you. Well crying babies bother other people.

Well they shouldn't go to Disney then There are tons of crying babies and crying kids during the day at the parks and at night in their hotel rooms. All Star Movies isn't a relaxing adult spa in the moutains last time I checked. I can't believe some people here are this uptight about 5 MINUTES of crying. She isn't abondoning the baby, this is her routine. I am sure if the OP realizes the baby is hungry, scared etc.. she will know by the cry and attend to her - I mean she is her mother after all.

I think she was being very curteous by asking what to do and I think with everyone here yelling at her to shove a **** in the baby's mouth is crazy. And as for going for a walk - getting the baby out of the crib and into a stroller would take more then 5 minutes anyway so why not wait and see if she falls right back to sleep. I think it takes me that long to get my surroundings and get to the crib. Geez!!!
We had a boy that must have been at least 6yrs old SCREAM every night (sometimes midnight) and every morning about brushing his teeth and would run around the room with the parents yelling at him - Matthew was his name by the way . I would have PAID a mother of an infant who cries 5-10min at night to move into that room instead but ya know what - we were at Disney and who are we to complain when the place is FULL of kids. I had just as much fun that trip then any other.....

Chill out people.

 

[WDWorld2003]

I'm never on this board and caught this thread on the main page by accident - I also haven't read the other responses.....

PLEASE don't let your baby cry. A few weeks ago we were at the Beach Club Villas and there was a baby crying for 2 hours from 2:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. and they were walking it in the hall (I looked out the peep hole)! Now, BCV has a few common areas they could have brought the baby to where it would have been away from the rooms.... I finally called the front desk and the crying stopped. I still can't figure out why they would walk the baby up and down the halls in the middle of the night where people are sleeping. It sure made my next day miserable as I had spent half the night awake.

Your baby and you will certainly be out of routine anyway so I wouldn't worry about that. Hope you have a great time.... I sometimes wish mine were that little again - my oldest is going to college this year

 

[KerriSue]

I can relate to having a baby who would get up every night and cry needing to fed and rocked to sleep. I thought I was going to die.... When my second baby came my friend suggested a book..ON BECOMING BABY WISE. This book teaches you to get your baby to sleep all night within six weeks. It worked. I tell everyone who I know that is going to have a baby to get this book. Even though your baby is 8 months it doesnt matter, this book will help. Give it a try.

You know if your baby cries while your on vacation, dont worry, thats what babies do. If the people next to you dont like it then they can request a different room.

Enjoy Disney and all the magic it offers, have a great time!!!

 

[Passions71203]

I don't think 5 minutes is that long for a baby to cry. People who don't want to hear crying babies shouldn't go to Disney World, IMO.

I would just use your best judgment on the crying v. breastfeeding.....

I agree!

 

[WDWorld2003]

Sounds like a great book that I can get my two nieces who will be having babies soon!

I don't mind a baby crying for a few minutes.... but if I played loud music, talked really loud or thumped on the walls in the middle of the night others would not be too happy. I've had babies and I think common courtesy comes into play here - just because you do it at home does not mean it should be done somewhere else if its going to bother someone. You probably won't have to worry anyway, Disney tends to exhaust everyone and you'll all sleep!

 

[Bird-Mom]

I'm a member of the "Stick a **** in its Mouth" club. I am still night nursing my 22 month old. Babies wake to nurse for a reason whether it be hunger or comfort. I do not believe that a baby under 12 months does not need to eat at night. They have tiny tummies and breastmilk metabolizes quickly.

I hate hearing babies cry. It makes me sick to my stomach. I have even leaked on occasion because it was obviously a hunger cry, and mama didn't respond or just stuffed a paci in the baby's mouth.

Crying raises stress hormones. This is not good. Babies who are allowed to cry have elevated levels of cortisol in their blood. This can cause anxiety and self esteem problems. There was a study done by a Harvard Medical School Psychiatrist on this. Link if you are interested: http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/04.09/ChildrenNeedTou.html


The whole sleeping through the night thing is overrated. Most people I know wake-to go to the bathroom, get a drink, fix the covers-why is it a problem when baby wakes? An unpopular opinion, I know, but many adults that I know as well as their children do wake during the night.

I can relate to having a baby who would get up every night and cry needing to fed and rocked to sleep. I thought I was going to die.... When my second baby came my friend suggested a book..ON BECOMING BABY WISE. This book teaches you to get your baby to sleep all night within six weeks.

Please, please do not read and use this book. This book is awful. It advocates long periods of crying and scheduling feeds. Babies aren't stupid. They know when they need to eat and should be treated with respect. They guy who wrote it is a total quack; he has no formal training in child development. Babies have been diagnosed with faliure to thrive and even died from a result of this approach. Moms have stopped breastfeeding because trying to schedule a breastfed baby will result in supply problems-no demand for nursing=no milk.

If you expect your baby to sleep through at such an early age, well, that is pretty unrealistic. Night waking comes with the territory and should be expected. Believe me, I understand being tired. I have not had a good night's sleep since May 2001. I have been pregnant, nursing, nursing and pregnant, pregnant, and nursing since then. But that is part of having children.

If you are looking for a more gentle approach to sleep teaching, try The No Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley.

 

[Suzanne74]

I hate hearing babies cry. It makes me sick to my stomach. I have even leaked on occasion because it was obviously a hunger cry, and mama didn't respond or just stuffed a paci in the baby's mouth.

What makes me sick to my stomach is people who are not responding to the original posters question and also assumes they know other mother's kids better then the actual mother. How do you know it was a baby's hunger cry - do you know that baby?? I leaked when I watched a sad movie, hear any baby cry (no matter whether it was a hungry cry or not) or even if I was excited about something. Just because another baby cries does not means it needs to be fed just because you feed yours everytime it cries. What if I said "It makes me sick to my stomach when a mom always just pops a **** in their kids mouth as soon as they cry instead of figuring out what that baby actually needs" It wouldn't feel so good, would it? I think mother's know their babies best and who am I to judge any mother - aren't we supposed to support each other no matter what are morals or parenting style are?

The OP is not breastfeeding at night anymore and knows her daughter tends to cry for 5min and falls back to sleep at night. This is her own routine so why would you bring up a book called The No Cry Sleep Solution or tell her NOT breastfeeding at night is not good. MANY MANY babies sleep thru the night by 8 months and aren't starving by any means. No mother needs to hear "they are not doing it right" especially from an absolute stranger.

 

[DMRick]

Well they shouldn't go to Disney then There are tons of crying babies and crying kids during the day at the parks and at night in their hotel rooms.

In 36 trips, we've only had a crying baby once, so I wouldn't thnk it's all that common. I assume most parents comfort their crying child. I'm not uptight about it. The OP asked, and we answered. Crying babies in the park, and in the evening, is not the same as the middle of the night. We are all there to enjoy our vacations, and I think most assume if a baby cries during the night, and wakes us, we will quickly hear a parent go to them, and try to calm them. It may not work, but it's different if someone is trying, versus just letting the baby lay there in strange surroundings. 5 minutes is a long time for both a baby, and person trying to sleep. As far as getting a call from someone to let me know they plan on letting their child cry..I would think that very strange. First thing I would prob do is hit the desk and ask if they had another room..since I saw it coming LOL.

 

[nicolem]

Wow! Lots of strong opinions here. While I see most of these points, as the mother of a 21 mo old who was in the process of weaning during a trip to DL last year, I say stick to your routine. As others (who have been in your position) have pointed out, it can be very hard to re-establish a routine once you break it for a week, and 3-5 minutes is NOT a long time for a baby to cry before falling back to sleep. And that idea that "everyone is so tired at WDW that she might not even wake up" applies to others too: your neighbors might be so tired that they don't notice the crying. Personally, I'm a very heavy sleeper and a baby wouldn't bother me (though loud music would). It might bother DH, but then, so would a door slamming, a shower running, etc. - and we expect to hear those things in a hotel room.

I understand your concern; I would be worried about it too. As a matter of fact, when we went in Dec, DS was 17 mo old and completely weaned, but we still worried about him waking the neighbors if he woke up in the middle of the night in a strange room. I think he did cry a couple of nights, but he quickly went back to sleep. Had we picked him up to take him for a walk or put him in our bed, that would have disrupted his entire sleep pattern and really messed us up the next day!

Do what you feel is best, and know that not everyone is going to agree with your decision ...but it looks like there are plenty of supporters on either side!

 

[DMRick]

She asked for suggestions, mentioned the baby is loud, and suggestions is what everyone is giving. I assume since she says she's loud, she was concerned. In any case, according to her timer, she is already there! I guess when she gets back, we'll see if it was the five minutes, or if it ended up longer or not at all.

What I find the most interesting, is, it's the people who have babies, that think it's ok, and those of us who don't, who don't agree LOL!

Our DD (8 months old) usually wakes up 1-2 times per night and cries for 3-5 minutes before putting herself asleep. She can be loud, but at home, it's just DH and I who hear her.

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Suggestions?

 

[Bird-Mom]

What makes me sick to my stomach is people who are not responding to the original posters question and also assumes they know other mother's kids better then the actual mother. How do you know it was a baby's hunger cry - do you know that baby?? I leaked when I watched a sad movie, hear any baby cry (no matter whether it was a hungry cry or not) or even if I was excited about something. Just because another baby cries does not means it needs to be fed just because you feed yours everytime it cries. What if I said "It makes me sick to my stomach when a mom always just pops a **** in their kids mouth as soon as they cry instead of figuring out what that baby actually needs" It wouldn't feel so good, would it? I think mother's know their babies best and who am I to judge any mother - aren't we supposed to support each other no matter what are morals or parenting style are?

The OP is not breastfeeding at night anymore and knows her daughter tends to cry for 5min and falls back to sleep at night. This is her own routine so why would you bring up a book called The No Cry Sleep Solution or tell her NOT breastfeeding at night is not good. MANY MANY babies sleep thru the night by 8 months and aren't starving by any means. No mother needs to hear "they are not doing it right" especially from an absolute stranger.

Touchy, touchy aren't we? Feeling a bit defensive?

Nowhere did I say that anyone was doing anything wrong. I gave my opinion, to which I am entitled, just like everyone else was doing. Someone else recommended a book; I added a different idea.

I also didn't say that I feed my babies everytime they cry. Nursing is about more than feeding. It is love, comfort, touch, the magical cure all. If you don't like my nursing, tough. I could care less what anyone says about how I care for my babies.

I did say that not attending to your baby is not good. And 5 minutes is a long time for a baby to cry.

Babies cry to communicate. If they are crying, something is wrong.

 

[TinkerbellMama]

I know this is getting but I wanted to make a comment about the "Babywise" book. I worked in social services before becoming a stay-at-home mom, and I am PERSONALLY aware of at least one case in which children were removed from their home (permanently, since the parents refused to agree to parenting classes ), where this exact book and method were used. It CAN BE abusive and HAS BEEN shown to contribute to failure-to-thrive syndrome in very young infants. I'm not saying everyone who uses this method is uncaring and/or abusive. I am only saying that many social services agencies are aware of this book in a negative way, and that it has contributed to some problems for babies and their families. Just an FYI! You can find more information about it by doing a search for Babywise.

My PERSONAL opinion is that this book is trash, and when I see used copies at thrift stores, etc., I buy them and throw them in the trash. I complain when I see it at a retail bookstore, too.