Incredibles wins and will soon end relationship with Disney

[wendy1974]

I know this isn't necessarily new to anyone but thought it might be food for thought. Pixar has only one movie left to make under their contract with disney and that's "Cars" After that they say they are not renewing contract and will look at other studios.
Check out the link to the article:


http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=537152

 

[Razor Roman]

But don't worry about the folks down at Pixar, they've got that iPod stock, they're gonna be ok!

 

[Peter Pirate]

Poppycock...There is nothing new in that statement. Pixar will sign a new agreement with Disney. It still makes sense.

 

[ktglads]

A little OT - but did anyone else notice that Brad Bird thanked Disney and its marketing in his acceptance speech at the Oscars? If they were truly upset with Diseny, I doubt he would have done that...

 

[DancingBear]

I did notice that and found it interesting--he specifically thanked folks by name at Disney Marketing.

 

[mrsR123]

A little OT - but did anyone else notice that Brad Bird thanked Disney and its marketing in his acceptance speech at the Oscars? If they were truly upset with Diseny, I doubt he would have done that...

The significance is that he thanked only marketing. Typically the chief of the studio would have been given his "props" if things were all "hunky-dory". Bird's statement was a verbal slap in the face through omission.

 

[DancingBear]

Doesn't matter to me that they slapped Eisner in the face by not mentioning him by name, but it indicates that the relationship among the folks that actually work together in the two companies might be okay. So, Pixar-Disney is salvageable in a post-Eisner world.

 

[SnackyStacky]

Doesn't matter to me that they slapped Eisner in the face by not mentioning him by name, but it indicates that the relationship among the folks that actually work together in the two companies might be okay. So, Pixar-Disney is salvageable in a post-Eisner world.

Depending on who succeeds Eisner.

 

[DancingBear]

Depending on who succeeds Eisner.

aye, therein lies the rub, for in such post-Michael era what Iger may come, when we have shuffled off Eisner's coil, must give us pause...

 

[mrsR123]

aye, therein lies the rub, for in such post-Michael era what Iger may come, when we have shuffled off Eisner's coil, must give us pause...

9.0 for allusion.

 

[OnWithTheShow]

I believe that he did thank Dick Cook, head of the studio.

 

[disneyworldgirl]

aye, therein lies the rub, for in such post-Michael era what Iger may come, when we have shuffled off Eisner's coil, must give us pause...

O-o-o-oka-a-ay!
Anyway, point well taken that Pixar may stick with Disney after Eisner's departure. Pixar may be keeping some options open until they find out who succeeds him, then see if the relationship is still salvageable. They've been such a great team until now, and it would be a shame to see them split just because of Eisner's so-called "management style".

 

[dcentity2000]

It may be less saveable when Eisner goes.

Steve Jobs is a proud man, like Eisner. What he wants is Eisner to come crawling back, betcha.

If he leaves, it may be a while before Jobs will even think about Disney again.

Personally, I think the two are being silly. Act like grown men you two!



Rich::

 

[Peter Pirate]

IMO, it isn't just Eisner's doing (this fiasco)...Job's is acting in a like manner, so blame in this case should go to both of these morons.

 

[georgeat]

After reading Disneywar by James Syewart, The entire blame is on Eisner. Jobs stated he would not renw as long as Eisner is there. Disney War is a must read for those of you that strongly believe in Eisner. He was very sneaky about a lot of the things he did. He not only had a 42% no from stockholders at the 2004 meeting but a 72.5% no vote from castmembers. Don't get me wrong, he did some good for the company.

 

[DancingBear]

After reading Disneywar by James Syewart, The entire blame is on Eisner. Jobs stated he would not renw as long as Eisner is there. Disney War is a must read for those of you that strongly believe in Eisner. He was very sneaky about a lot of the things he did. He not only had a 42% no from stockholders at the 2004 meeting but a 72.5% no vote from castmembers. Don't get me wrong, he did some good for the company.

First of all, I don't know how many people you will find here that "strongly believe in Eisner," but don't you think you should rely on more than just one clearly anti-Eisner source for your opinion?

 

[georgeat]

Have you read the book? It is not anti Eisner. And I do read more than one source of information.

 

[SnackyStacky]

First of all, I don't know how many people you will find here that "strongly believe in Eisner," but don't you think you should rely on more than just one clearly anti-Eisner source for your opinion?

I don't believe that James Stewart is "anti-Eisner" in the sense that most on this board are. I'm only about 120 pages in, but it really seems to me like he approached the book with a journalist's eye. It doesn't seem like he was out to get Eisner. He doesn't believe Eisner is good for the company any longer, but he really seems to be unbiased in his evaluations of what happened.

In fact, in his many interviews before the book was released, he stated that when he went in, he really was just trying to get a look at how an entertainment company works. And once he began those observations is when the Comcast bid came in, and when Roy left.

 

[DancingBear]

Have you read the book? It is not anti Eisner. And I do read more than one source of information.

Then perhaps you would explain how the "entire blame is on Eisner" even though it was Jobs who didn't want to live up to the contract when Toy Story 2 was made.

 

[DancingBear]

I don't believe that James Stewart is "anti-Eisner" in the sense that most on this board are. I'm only about 120 pages in, but it really seems to me like he approached the book with a journalist's eye. It doesn't seem like he was out to get Eisner. He doesn't believe Eisner is good for the company any longer, but he really seems to be unbiased in his evaluations of what happened.

In fact, in his many interviews before the book was released, he stated that when he went in, he really was just trying to get a look at how an entertainment company works. And once he began those observations is when the Comcast bid came in, and when Roy left.

I agree "anti-Eisner" may be a bit of a broad description. Stewart gives credit to Eisner's earlier accomplishments, and I believe that he genuinely came to the conclusion that Eisner is a bad guy; however, hearing him talk about Roy Disney's relationship with Walt, and reading the excerpts in the Wall Street Journal, I'm not sure if I fully trust his judgment--I think perhaps he was less skeptical than he should have been about the motives of those who are all too willing to say bad things about Eisner and Iger.

Those things may be true, but when you're talking about folks like Jobs and Katzenberg, there are no innocents.