Incentives and new pricing winter/spring 2025

[Sandisw]

I thought it was April 28th?

That is what I thought as well.

 

[PolyRob]

I think the current incentives last until April 28th, right?

https://dvcnews.com/dvc-program-men...5-late-winter-disney-vacation-club-incentives

I got an auto-generated email "from my guide" last night with a countdown reminding me... Chip and Dale were pushing the Cabins. Aulani was also in the email. No mention of PVB or RIV.

 

[AstroBlasters]

I got an auto-generated email "from my guide" last night with a countdown reminding me... Chip and Dale were pushing the Cabins. Aulani was also in the email. No mention of PVB or RIV.

I would push Aulani direct down to $160pp with MB and then ROFR up all of the subsidized contracts. That would be a $55pp incentive…..

Won’t happen, but it’s what I would do…

 

[VGCgroupie]

I would push Aulani direct down to $160pp with MB and then ROFR up all of the subsidized contracts. That would be a $55pp incentive…..

Won’t happen, but it’s what I would do…

This makes too much sense.

 

[pzw90]

I would push Aulani direct down to $160pp with MB and then ROFR up all of the subsidized contracts. That would be a $55pp incentive…..

Won’t happen, but it’s what I would do…

I thought I read somewhere they aren’t supposed to ROFR the subsidized contracts. Could be totally wrong

 

[Sandisw]

I thought I read somewhere they aren’t supposed to ROFR the subsidized contracts. Could be totally wrong

I don’t think it matters since they are the ones who pay the subsidy…so, I think they can if they want?

My guess is they don’t because they sell for more and don’t need to since they still have points to sell.

 

[🍀TwinsMom]

I would push Aulani direct down to $160pp with MB and then ROFR up all of the subsidized contracts. That would be a $55pp incentive…..

Won’t happen, but it’s what I would do…

Wasn't there an AUL fire sale during C19 that got it down to the $130s if you bought a ton? I thought they moved a lot of points, but maybe it was higher. I agree though, finish selling it off.

 

[Brian Noble]

This makes too much sense.

No, it doesn't.

Post in thread 'Future of Riveria'

Feb 22, 2023

I think ultimately they would like to buy back all resale points and resell them directly.

Only at the right price.

The general rule of thumb in the timeshare industry is that the "cost of inventory" is at most somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of the total cost of the product you are selling. (The biggest cost component? Marketing at 40-50%.) That's cost not sales price. So even if they weren't making a dime of profit on any sale, it's better to build a shiny new resort than to ROFR a resale at anything more than about 1/3 of the direct price. Because there is...

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[Patmcpsu]

No, it doesn't.

Post in thread 'Future of Riveria'

Feb 22, 2023

I think ultimately they would like to buy back all resale points and resell them directly.

Only at the right price.

The general rule of thumb in the timeshare industry is that the "cost of inventory" is at most somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of the total cost of the product you are selling. (The biggest cost component? Marketing at 40-50%.) That's cost not sales price. So even if they weren't making a dime of profit on any sale, it's better to build a shiny new resort than to ROFR a resale at anything more than about 1/3 of the direct price. Because there is...

• Brian Noble

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"General rule of thumb" implies normal circumstances. When some of the contracts only carry 70% of the maintenance fees due to a clerical error, it's not longer a normal circumstance.

 

[Brian Noble]

There aren't that many subsidized contracts out there, and they don't turn over very often. And, you still under-perform compared to stick-built. From where I sit, it is not a first-tier allocation of capital, because the cost basis of stick-built is so much lower than market-rate ROFR.

 

[kmcco]

Do we have any idea when the new incentives will be released after the current ones end on April 28?

 

[cruisehopeful]

Do we have any idea when the new incentives will be released after the current ones end on April 28?

I don't know. My question is, does it ever get more enticing vs always creeping up in price?

 

[PolyRob]

Do we have any idea when the new incentives will be released after the current ones end on April 28?

It will change overnight. We may be able to pull the points charts based on the old website links.

New programs like Disney Visa, D23, Magical Beginnings price per point, Welcome Home (when that existed), etc would have to wait for guides to send us information.

 

[PolyRob]

I don't know. My question is, does it ever get more enticing vs always creeping up in price?

It can if DVD wants to on active resorts.

It can also randomly happen on sold out resorts, but we can also see something like $2 off 150 points at CCV.

 

[MerlinandtheMouse]

Do we have any idea when the new incentives will be released after the current ones end on April 28?

Usually the next day. A couple of savvy sleuths here sometimes find the links before DVD releases in the morning so it could be within the early hours of the 29th.

I don't know. My question is, does it ever get more enticing vs always creeping up in price?

Hah sometimes, IIRC, this particular incentive period last year (last spring-early summer) was one of the better ones. In fact, wasn’t the VGF fire sale also initiated in this next incentive period? Other folks would remember better.

 

[PolyRob]

In fact, wasn’t the VGF fire sale also initiated in this next incentive period? Other folks would remember better.

I believe the VGF sale was end of May through beginning of September. I think the promotions have slightly modified timelines compared to 2023, but it was definitely summer!

 

[maui22]

Usually the next day. A couple of savvy sleuths here sometimes find the links before DVD releases in the morning so it could be within the early hours of the 29th.

Hah sometimes, IIRC, this particular incentive period last year (last spring-early summer) was one of the better ones. In fact, wasn’t the VGF fire sale also initiated in this next incentive period? Other folks would remember better.

I believe the VGF sale was end of May through beginning of September. I think the promotions have slightly modified timelines compared to 2023, but it was definitely summer!

Wasn’t it summer 2023?

 

[MerlinandtheMouse]

Wasn’t it summer 2023?

Yes I’m sure you’re right. Just couldn’t remember if it was the late spring incentive period or summer. Like @PolyRob said, the incentive periods have changed slightly since then so not sure how it compares to the current periods.

 

[supercarrie]

Late spring/summer 2024 was quite competitive, too, although not as good as VGF from 2023. The OKW fire sale happened in spring, and the Riviera discounts were pretty attractive, too. The Riv discounts stayed the same from spring-summer, with the exception of a new Disney Visa discount ($1000 off). We signed just before the new incentives rolled out on June 25, and then rewrote our contract to have the Disney Visa discount be applied.

Spring 2024 (April 2-June 24): https://dvcfan.com/general-dvc/dvcs-spring-2024-direct-sales-incentives-revealed/
Summer 2024 (June 25-September 30): https://dvcfan.com/general-dvc/discover-summer-2024-dvc-direct-sales-incentives/

 

[cdirazonian]

Wasn’t it summer 2023?

Yes, it was May 29th,2023 that the summer incentives came out, atleast I think it was summer incentives because it ran until VGF sold out in mid September 2023.

I saved the screenshot of what we were going to pay on 5/4/23 and it has the expiration date of those incentives which weren’t great.

We bought on 5/5 had the closing & points in our account and was really surprised & grateful when i asked my salesperson if she could redo the whole thing when all the better incentives came out 3+ weeks later. She was great & got it all redone by 5/31/23.