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[disneymarie]

I can't believe how trying to work could hurt us so deeply. DH lost his job of 40 years a year or so ago. He had been in UC for $450 a week. To help us cover the medical we had to pick up he has worked mostly $65 a week, a few weeks if the work was open over night shifts $200, this was rare.

But after the end of the year he had to reopen his claim. Although eligible for the Tier 3, we will only receive $60 a week based on his pt time job. I can't believe that they could use this income? Apparently he had a quarter he earned $1,200 which was over the $800 test and made him eligible for a new claim ineligible for the old claim.

He could have sat home and at least we would have enough to pay the mortgage. We have had noting this year because of pt work now.
How could something that is not 40 hrs, not substantial gainful employment ever be substituted for replacement for the loss.

We had no idea because the Tier 3 was approved...no way to prepare, I guess it does not pay for anyone to work on UC until they exhaust the claim.

We went from $19,000 a year a huge loss over his income, to now $3,000.
He appealed but there is no recourse, they set the law....one that would show all the UC claims being down.

Even if he left the job, he can not collect as there are the 2, four hr shifts avl. He would have to be laid off for 6 months and live on the $60 to reopen the $450 a week claim.

 

[Boardwalk Gal]

Gosh, that a bummer!! I feel that this country has it all backwards...it pays MORE to stay home and NOT work...No wonder the immigrants wants to live here. Sheesch!! BUt i hope it will work out for you all!!

 

[MAH4546]

Gosh, that a bummer!! I feel that this country has it all backwards...it pays MORE to stay home and NOT work...No wonder the immigrants wants to live here. Sheesch!! BUt i hope it will work out for you all!!

The generosity of unemployment in the United States is nothing compared to what it is in Europe.

 

[wovenwonder]

Did you see the information that I posted for you on the other thread that you mentioned this case on?? I copied below for reference ~

Is the fix from HR 4213 still effective - where if your new benefit year claim is $100 or 25% less than your current claim, you are allowed to remain on your old EUC?

There is a lot of great information at the Unemployed Friends message board. Wishing you the best.
http://www.unemployed-friends.org/

Here is info on the policy
http://www.nelp.org/page/-/UI/2010/F...20Fix QA.pdf

EUC FIX under the American Jobs and Closing Loopholes Act of 2010. This fix is intended to remove the disincentive for unemployed workers to take part-time or temporary work while collecting unemployment benefits.

After a claimant collects unemployment benefits for 52 weeks, federal law requires state unemployment agencies to determine whether the claimant has earned enough wages to qualify for a new regular state benefits claim.

Before the EUC fix was enacted, claimants that managed to find work while collecting unemployment benefits were frequently forced to start a new regular state benefits claim with a much lower weekly benefit rate. The EUC Fix removes this disincentive to take part-time or temporary work while collecting benefits by permitting the claimant to continue collecting EUC benefits on the first claim if certain thresholds are met.:

You will be permitted to stay on your higher EUC claim if you would qualify for a new benefit year in which the weekly benefit amount of regular compensation is at least either (a) $100 less than your current weekly benefit amount, or (b) 25% less than your current weekly benefits amount.

The EUC Fix is NOT retroactive. Only individuals with benefit years that end on or after July 24, 2010 can take advantage of the EUC Fix.

The states are calling the 'fix' a Deferred New Claim.

 

[disneymarie]

Did you see the information that I posted for you on the other thread that you mentioned this case on?? I copied below for reference ~

Is the fix from HR 4213 still effective - where if your new benefit year claim is $100 or 25% less than your current claim, you are allowed to remain on your old EUC?

There is a lot of great information at the Unemployed Friends message board. Wishing you the best.
http://www.unemployed-friends.org/

Here is info on the policy
http://www.nelp.org/page/-/UI/2010/F...20Fix QA.pdf

EUC FIX under the American Jobs and Closing Loopholes Act of 2010. This fix is intended to remove the disincentive for unemployed workers to take part-time or temporary work while collecting unemployment benefits.

After a claimant collects unemployment benefits for 52 weeks, federal law requires state unemployment agencies to determine whether the claimant has earned enough wages to qualify for a new regular state benefits claim.

Before the EUC fix was enacted, claimants that managed to find work while collecting unemployment benefits were frequently forced to start a new regular state benefits claim with a much lower weekly benefit rate. The EUC Fix removes this disincentive to take part-time or temporary work while collecting benefits by permitting the claimant to continue collecting EUC benefits on the first claim if certain thresholds are met.:

You will be permitted to stay on your higher EUC claim if you would qualify for a new benefit year in which the weekly benefit amount of regular compensation is at least either (a) $100 less than your current weekly benefit amount, or (b) 25% less than your current weekly benefits amount.

The EUC Fix is NOT retroactive. Only individuals with benefit years that end on or after July 24, 2010 can take advantage of the EUC Fix.

The states are calling the 'fix' a Deferred New Claim.

Wow I have to decipher all of this information...Sorry I did not see it on the other thread, thank you so much for providing the information. I filed an appeal and we keep signing in case anything changes.

His year ended Dec. not July, I remember them saying something like if it had been before the July he would not have this happen.

When our representative called Harrisburg and asked them to explain it, they could not help. I will read the links and thanks for the invite to the UC friends message board.

On my own claim,mail in claims, I had some weeks I work; others I do not or have only
an hour or two to claim. Like you say it is not retroactive, if I am off for several weeks I have been able to receive partials or some weeks after they reopen.

I recently sent in my mail claims, then bang I had 4 referrals.
Again I appreciate the information.
di

 

[kelcoppens]

Your in PA. Tell your DH to make some cash by shoveling snow!

 

[disneymarie]

Your in PA. Tell your DH to make some cash by shoveling snow!

Wish we had a vehicle to plow driveways at 60 yrs old I don't want his insurance a good man is tough to find. Most driveways in the Pocono's area I am in are several hundred feet long. My nephew sometimes needs his construction veh to get us out

I have tried to assist him in finding substantial gainful employment. No one wants a senior citizen, young men have trouble finding work. I just started training him in process serving, but have heard nothing from the law firms I sent contact to.

I just don't know how to make up our mortgage.

 

[wovenwonder]

The EUC Fix is NOT retroactive. Only individuals with benefit years that end on or after July 24, 2010 can take advantage of the EUC Fix.

If his first year ended AFTER July 24, 2010 then he is eligible for the Fix. Call and ask them how this applies to you. You should not have to wait for an appeal. PLEASE go on the Unemployed Friends message board and post about your issue. There are many very knowledgeable folks there that can walk you through this.

 

[disneymarie]

The EUC Fix is NOT retroactive. Only individuals with benefit years that end on or after July 24, 2010 can take advantage of the EUC Fix.

If his first year ended AFTER July 24, 2010 then he is eligible for the Fix. Call and ask them how this applies to you. You should not have to wait for an appeal. PLEASE go on the Unemployed Friends message board and post about your issue. There are many very knowledgeable folks there that can walk you through this.[/QUOT]

Thanks for the invite, Waiting for my reg, link now.
, I am on hold now with UC it is a 40 minute wait but I got through. We are one Tire 3 which says that he is eligible for the $450.
He got this the day after saying he was getting the $60.

First opened in Jan 09.for 2 weeks, then in April when the plant closed up. His second test, he had a lower quarter but only went down by $100. Then in 26 weeks he was working pt and it went back up to $450.
This time they check to see if he could reopen and two quarters he had over $800 ($1,000 and $1,200) so they stated we had to restart a new claim at $60.

The words the woman told me was it would only assist those that had claims July 2010. I think they closed us on Dec. 31 2010m and Jan. 2011 maybe this loop hole fix was discontinued?

 

[disneymarie]

The EUC Fix is NOT retroactive. Only individuals with benefit years that end on or after July 24, 2010 can take advantage of the EUC Fix.

If his first year ended AFTER July 24, 2010 then he is eligible for the Fix. Call and ask them how this applies to you. You should not have to wait for an appeal. PLEASE go on the Unemployed Friends message board and post about your issue. There are many very knowledgeable folks there that can walk you through this.

His year ended in January 2009, so it does not go back before July 2010.
The recognized the loop hole but had to draw a line somewhere and the bill was voted July 2010 and there is stops....so Nada zilch, nothing....

I have to vent it I can't do it to him he gets defensive, I told him to not pick up the extra hours...if it was going to cut into UC checks it would not help us.
Meaning the 8 hrs paid medical.....anything over, he had pay in his hand. The UC was directly in the bank. It ended up being pocket money if he picked up the extra hours,
Only way to go back on is to not work the next 6 months....but it is available, the 8 hrs, not the extra.

There is only one thing that is going to save us, and I wanted that for the children....an emotional battle that depleted us, to be favorable for the family loss.

So scared to think what is going to happen now? We will be 2 months behind tomorrow on the mortgage.
SUCKS.....

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

Marie -
Is your husband old enough to collect social security? That may be a thought.

Was he able to get his high school diploma/GED while unemployed - that might help in the job search too.

Good luck.

 

[PatMcDuck]

Unfortunately, when you collect unemployment, you need to know the laws inside and out. And it can be hard, because you could call and ask questions and get some wrong answers from unemployment agency employees.... or conflicting answers.

DH and DS (age 23) are both union carpenters, and there is almost no commercial union work going on in NJ....... DH has been working pretty steady (he even lived in Las Vegas for over 2 years while I stayed here in NJ to keep working), he is back home now. DS, he was on unemployment for 1 1/2 years I think. I would sometimes tell him, go get a PT job somewhere, in a sub shop or something. But, he looked into it, and knew if he did that, it would jeopardize his claim. He hung in there, and even lost his union medical insurance (if you do not work, you have no employer paying into the fund for you). They have it set up that if you were a former FT worker collecting unemployment, it does not pay to return to work PT, you must find a new FT job. My son would get even more frustrated because he knew many illegals were working PT jobs for cash, very common around here, but he could not get these cash jobs himself..... (I did not encourage his desire to find cash jobs!)

DS IS working FT now, even getting overtime..... off unemployment. It is non-union, much less pay, but they have lots of work. Installing solar panels, business is good in alternative energy fields I guess. He is paying off debt from the long period of unemployment (just $$ owed to us for car insurance, car repairs, paying his COBRA medical premium, no loans or credit cards).

Good luck to you, I would be very worried and I sympathize so much with your struggle, I have been there, worrying how to pay a pile of bills...