Impressions from an American

brimel2527

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We just returned from 8 fabulous days in Paris, including several visits to DLP. While not offering a detailed trip report here, I thought I would make note of some impressions that my family picked up while there.

First, two observations:
1. Frame of Reference - where you are from and what you are accustomed to - colors everything.
2. Cultural differences in a one-on-one setting can be informative and educational. In a one-on-5000 setting they can be confusing and annoying.

The Disneyland park itself it much more attractive a setting than WDW. We are DVC members since 1995, and have made 30+ trips to WDW, but DLP is by far a more beautiful park. It starts with the approach to the entry, continues to the castle, and goes from there.

Discoveryland was fun, but very crowded. Space Mountain was a great ride, but this 48 yr old felt beaten up after every time. My 13 yr old son loved it. We also liked Buzz Lightyear, although kind of funny to hear him speak French! It's hard to see where you are aiming, so we preferrd the WDW version. We were not overwhelmed by the Lion King show. It was certainly well done, but not nearly as much fun as the WDW Animal Kingdom version.
Autopia is good, except too many people let their 4 yr old drive, which slows everything way down.

Fantasyland was great. Hearing Peter Pan yell "imaginaire (sp?)" made us all laugh. Better than WDW's. Same goes for Small World.

Adventureland has Indy Jones, which has no counterpart at WDW. It was my son's favorite ride for about 30 minutes, until we went on BTMR. We agree with others that POTC is better at DLP than WDW.

In Frontierland, we were blown away by BTMR. What a terrific ride! The trips out to and back from the island are fantastic! Best ride, in our view, in the entire park.

Phantom Manor was fun, but no better than WDW's.

There was always a big crowd for the Paddlewheel Boat. There are days they can't pay people to go on the one at WDW!

Other things we liked: The dragon under the castle, the walk to Fantasyland breakfast when no one else was there, staying at the Sequoia Lodge (comfortable room in the main building).

Dinner at Cafe Mickey's was excellent. We arrived at about 7 PM with no reservations, and were seated immediately.

Line jumping was only an issue once. A group of about 6 girls (speaking French) in the 10-13 age range tried to get past us to join friends. My kids and I held hands to physically restrain them from going past. Since I'm 1.85 meters and 89 kilos, they didn't push too hard. A fond memory for my children!

Cast members were uniformly friendly and informative.

Annoyances:
First (and second, third, and fourth) is the ubiquitous smokers. They are everywhere, including the queues, and so many young people. Is there no health education in Europe? Incredibly irritating for people who don't usually have to put up with it. Also, while the park is beautiful, there was much more trash on the ground than we ever see at WDW. The inside of Skull Rock looked like a rubbish barrel.

Park hours were disappointing. I realize schools are still in session, but a closing time of 8 PM when sunset is at 10 PM is nuts. We never got to see Main Street lit up.

Three of four train stations didn't open until 12:30 PM. Couldn't figure that one out, either.

The Studios Park was okay, but nothing spectacular. We were there for 1/2 a day, and never felt compelled to return.

Disney Village was underwhelming. And how can they charge more for "Panoramagique" than for a trip to the top of la Tour Eiffel?

Pin trading was a tremendous disappointment. Cast member lanyards all looked the same, and the pin trading board that I saw had, on 3 different occasions, about 3 pins worth swapping for.

There was, for us, a certain lack of the "magical feeling" that we get at WDW. I know this has been discussed before, and it seems to be one of those things that separates Americans and Europeans.

All in all, a lovely park and a wonderful vacation. I'd go back to Paris anytime (I just wouldn't stay on the Place de la Republique the same night that les Bleus defeat the Brazilians in the World Cup!), but I wouldn't feel the need to rush back to DLP.

A big thank you to the regulars on this Board. I read your posts for several weeks, and picked up some good tips. I look forward to returning to see posted pictures, because they will bring back good memories.

Steve
 
thanks for your post.

glad that you had a good trip.

i am going for the first time to DLP next week. I love the States - been to WDW three times and Disneyland in California twice.

I am just going to go with an open mind and try my hardest not to compare the parks.

i hate smoking too - hopefully they will ban it soon!

xjx
 
Steve, thank you for posting such an informative and objective report. I sense sometimes that there is disappointment when North Americans visit DLRP, as they are expecting a copy of one of the American parks.

Having lived and worked in both Europe and North America, I think that the disappointment often arises from culture shock as opposed to a lack of quality at the French location. From your post I suspect that you didn't stay onsite, but I know that Americans are often surprised with European hotels ie the size of the room, lack of air conditioning, etc and perceive it as a negative.

I will admit that on a recent return 'home' I struggled with a heat wave and complete lack of air conditioning. My relations of course laughed at how 'American' I have become. :teeth:

It seems that you truly took the time to appreciate DLRP without making too many comparisons to other parks.

Happy future travels!
 
I am very pleased you saw the uniqueness of DLRP & enjoyed your trip.

I never spend more than a day at Disney Studio's but they are adding more things so should get more popular soon.

Pin trading isnt as big in Europe as it is in the States. Europeans dont do things like that, such as swap football cards etc.

I often found French kids a bit rude :rolleyes:

:sunny:

Jodie
 

Thanks for taking the time to give us the thoughts about your visit Steve, and that you mainly enjoyed your visti.

There was, for us, a certain lack of the "magical feeling" that we get at WDW. I know this has been discussed before, and it seems to be one of those things that separates Americans and Europeans.

I've always just enjoyed both DLP and WDW for what they are - superb theme parks. I, personally have never been a great one needing "the magic" -so I don't find DLP to be a great let down on that score. But, if that's what you're looking for, then I can see how the more cynical Europe may not create such a magical atmosphere for you.

And how can they charge more for "Panoramagique" than for a trip to the top of la Tour Eiffel?

That is a bit strange!!!
 
brimel2527 said:
Cultural differences in a one-on-one setting can be informative and educational. In a one-on-5000 setting they can be confusing and annoying.

Well put and very true!!


We also miss "the magic" at DLP, although it is a beautiful park. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the perspective.
 
ely3857 said:

I often found French kids a bit rude :rolleyes:

So did I, even though i'm still a kid myself! It was shocking how rude some of them were! Some times i pretty much felt like this :eek:
lol!
 
xox_Violet_xox said:
So did I, even though i'm still a kid myself! It was shocking how rude some of them were! Some times i pretty much felt like this :eek:
lol!


Your soooooooooooooo right but remember childrens behaviour is made by there parents.
 
Thank you Brimel fot sharing your visit with us.
Love to read your TR. an could not agree more with you.
 
It was interesting to read your trippie - I've often wondered what folk from America thought of 'our' park here in Europe. Unfortunately though rudeness is like music - universally annoying and understood everywhere. It's a shame folk have to be discourteous but it sounds as though you got it sorted :)

Not being a smoker myself - but I've spent a lot of time with smokers throughout my life - I can understand how annoying it is but I think your comment about cultural differences is very apt. I don't like being around smokers myself but tend to think if folk want to smoke that's their business - ditto alcohol. I'll have a drop or two but no more.

I never found the studios park that interesting myself. I loved going on the Tram Tour ride, enjoyed the Art of Animation :artist: and the Anima/cinemagique shows but I never spend more than 1/2 a day. There's too much going on in the main park to keep my attention on the studios personally. :blush: :blush:
 
Hi

Pleased you had a fantastic time although some of your negatives are my fear of not enjoying our first trip.

I hate people pushing into lines and being rather heavy I will soon put a stop to that :lmao:

I really am not looking forward to going on rides and seeing shows that are in French this is what worries me that takes the magic and feelings away that its Disney.

I understand that some of the rides are better and the landscaping is prettier, but its only what 10 years old compared to WDW. WDW is unique in my opinion.

I love America and perhaps thats why I am so protective about WDW and everything about Florida in general. As soon as I become Qualified Nurse I want to move out there I love it so much and I really hope that I dont compare the two places against each other otherwise I will be dissapointed.

:sad2:
 
Thanks for sharing your highs and lows.
In spite of some of the obvious differences you appear to haved enjoyed more :goodvibes
 
I must jump back in to comment on 'rudeness!' :teeth: As children we were taught to curtsey, strict table manners, not to chew gum, etc etc and that Europeans were somehow superior to North Americans in the manners department.

Well, once again, it is not 'better', but 'different'. I find Americans in general to be much more friendly in shops etc; their openness and curiosity could be considered rude to some Germans.

I was totally shocked however earlier this month as I was waiting to board a Lufthansa flight - I was flying in business class, and fly almost every week in North America. United uses a very strict boarding by status and section format, and the gate agent will send one ot the back of the line if one tries to board before one is called.

Imagine my shock when on each of my 4 flights there was a stampede to the gate, and passengers pushed each other through the turnstiles! This to be on board in our preassigned business class seats....

So, again, differences in perception. I do however agree that queue jumping and pushing should not be acceptable in any culture, but sadly that behaviour is considered more acceptable than other 'rude' behaviour. :confused3
 
bavaria said:
. . . So, again, differences in perception. I do however agree that queue jumping and pushing should not be acceptable in any culture, but sadly that behaviour is considered more acceptable than other 'rude' behaviour.

It's sad but true. It seems that only those from the U.S. and the U.K. are willing to stand patiently in an orderly queue.

Woody
 
woody73 said:
It's sad but true. It seems that only those from the U.S. and the U.K. are willing to stand patiently in an orderly queue.

Woody

;) Let's include the polite Canadians on that list too - they are pretty patient at queuing too! And to avoid making sweeping generalizations, I would add that while queuing may be somewhat cultural, there are exceptions to that rule. (Hey, I swear that I didn't start pushing to get on the Lufthansa flight until a businessman rammed me through the turnstile and I had no choice! :rotfl: )
 
I understand totally about the queue thing! Our first disney park experience was to DLRP and our two kids (small at the time) were shocked that we stood in character lines while others - usually grown ups - pushed past and mobbed the character - worst experiece on the steps of the pizza place in Adventureland!

And I have to say on both our trips to WDW the character lines have been flawless, restrained and dignified with the character helper hardly having to do anything.

I know DLPR isn't WDW but it'll be interesting to see how we view it this year after our trips to the US.

Lynn
 
arieliwish said:
I understand totally about the queue thing! Our first disney park experience was to DLRP and our two kids (small at the time) were shocked that we stood in character lines while others - usually grown ups - pushed past and mobbed the character - worst experiece on the steps of the pizza place in Adventureland!

And I have to say on both our trips to WDW the character lines have been flawless, restrained and dignified with the character helper hardly having to do anything.

I know DLPR isn't WDW but it'll be interesting to see how we view it this year after our trips to the US.

Lynn

i am not going to even bother with the character meets in the parks - it sounds crazy.

hopefully the hotels will be kool!
:banana: :banana:
 
it really is mainly the princess and mickey ones that are lengthy - but if you are in Disneyland hotel around 1-2pm you could meet one or more of the princesses there, I met Belle this way and there was no queue - much bustling from a rather rude German family though :(

I must say it is fantastic meeting characters in the road between it's a small world and the castle - there are loads of them so you could meet 10 in 15 minutes! so don't write it off completely :)
 












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