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MarcyinFlorida - I think you should be commended for your great attitude towards everything you are going through. I have been reading alot of the posts about the hurricanes since we are sailing in sept of next year. Your attitude is always upbeat and always looking at the bright side. I hope if this all happens to me and my DH next year we can be like you and be flexible and happy with going cruising.

I hope all of you affected by this hurricane have a great cruise and have magical memories forever. I am definitly jealous since I'm sitting in Atlanta waiting for it to hit us this afternoon.
 
If you didn't like the offer, then cancel and get 100% of your money back and everything is even. You would pay 0 for 0 days vacation.

Um, we got 100% refund but before we got that we drove to Orlando, through the hurricane, to try to make our cruise because we encourage by Disney on the Friday before to do so. We ended up spending OVER $600 JUST in hotel rooms to get there and get home. This does not include food, which we would have gotten on the cruise, and gas to get there and back. Once we got there our circumstance because of Ivan approaching at the time made us have to make the hard decision to cancel. BUT, we weren't happy that we weren't going to get a great cruise on top of all the problems we had getting there, getting information, etc. So just because you cancel and get a 100% refund (and at first we were told it wouldn't be a total 100% refund) doesn't mean you aren't paying 0 for 0 vacation. I think that's what dinnysuw is experiencing, they made it there under awful circumstances and it's costing them more than it would otherwise. ON top of that, Disney also did not help us get a room for Monday night because there was no way we could start home on Monday as the weather was worsening as Frances was going north, in the direction we had to travel to get home. But enough of that...

Yes, this discussion has gone on and on and on and that's why, last Friday, I was trying to give some good suggestions because we had a feeling of what you were going to run into, especially after getting to Florida/Orlando. Some took it as good advice, some blew me off and now are going through what the advice could have helped them with (I'm talking in regard to the hotels). Oh well, to each his own and sorry it hasn't worked out for you.
 
I was on the 8/28 "lost at sea" cruise (as they have now dubbed it). While Disney struggled to make arrangements and deal with peoples' anxieties and keep us entertained, we never felt that we were being "ripped off". We were not offered ANY compensation of any kind (onboard credits, discount off future cruises, nothing) for our "inconvenience" of missing two extra days of work and school, etc. -- but that is NOT Disney's fault! They actually docked in Galveton and gave people the option of departing that Saturday through Houston -- with free bus transportation. 600 got off -- but the majority chose to ride it out.

However, if you would read other trip reports on cruisecritic.com or any other site, you will find that Norweigen, Carnival and RCL have done a worse job keeping up. We had friends on Carnival and NCL during that 8/28 and NEITHER ship stopped to restock and actually started running out of things -- including clean towels and food.

RCL and Carnival are offering the same deals right now as Disney (% off current cruise, onboard credit, etc.) -- but neither of their websites is suggesting that you not come! Right now it is posted on DCL's site that you can cancel for a 100% refund should you choose not to take the 5-day shortened cruise.

I can say that I first-hand understand your frustration of being on the receiving end of miscommunication and frustration because we went through it. But I just want everyone to be a little more open-minded about the fact that Disney is not out to get you and they are NOT the only cruise line going through this indecision process with their passengers.

We still believe that out of all the cruise lines (from what I have read and heard), DCL still gave their passengers better care and treatment than the others.
 
For those of you who are not feeling very pro-Disney today, please consider that, in the middle of this 4th fiasco, DCL was able to put a child with cancer on the Magic because her cruise on the Wonder had been shortened. Maybe they can't spread Magic to all of the people all of the time, but they sure can do it when it counts. I, personally, will be kissing my children extra when we sail out tonight.
Marcy, I am very glad to hear that your friends were able to get on the Magic! I do hopeit is magical for all of us. as i said earlier i would rather vent here then in front of my children-that is why i posted-all i ask is tha DCL updates their phone and web site, the Sheraton info is not on either and we have known for almos a day! see you on the cruise-i promise no "venting" there-getting out of my system now.
darcy
Yes, this discussion has gone on and on and on and that's why, last Friday, I was trying to give some good suggestions because we had a feeling of what you were going to run into, especially after getting to Florida/Orlando. Some took it as good advice, some blew me off and now are going through what the advice could have helped them with (I'm talking in regard to the hotels). Oh well, to each his own and sorry it hasn't worked out for you.
i did read your post and i believe you said if they offer, cancel. we weren't offered until it was too late to turn back. we put our trust in what we were told by Disney. They thought they were doing what was right i suppose.
 

Like some others, I am getting today's lunchtime entertainment at my desk reading this forum as Jeanne rains all over us here n Atlanta. Now as we all know, Michael Eisner has direct control over the weather and has done a terrible job with it. You would think with the lack of respect our foreign policy gets in Europe, Ol' Mikey would have arranged for hurricanes to his Disney Paris, but no, he keeps bringing it on to FLA, four times in six weeks, the worst any state has been hit since Texas in 1886. I don't blame anyone for holding Disney reponsible for A) not knowing in advance which way the storms will turn, and at what speed;B) not being able to clone the ships mid-cruise so that the passengers who want to beat the storm back can do so, and those who want to visit new ports as vagabonds can do that; and C) not making the other 51 weeks of some passengers' years happier so that the one week of a cruise, scheduled during hurricane season, is the only potential for happiness, from the tone of some postings, and when the plans are disrupted some would-be passengers apparently feel that they, not the folks in Pensacola who won't have electrcity for another three weeks, got the worst of this season.

Captain Tom would probably say that if he had a crystal ball, he certainly would plot out the best course and itinerary that his Magical prescience allowed. But that Chihuly chandelier in the atrium is not a crystal ball, and he does the best he can. And probably so does Disney as a company. If their best, in the worst circumstances, is not good enough for you, no one is making you choose to sail DCL again. Go ahead and let it all out here in this forum, but which part of Hurricane still defies your understanding of "act of God" or "beyond their control"?

As my father once said of his mother, my grandmother, who was a notoriously harsh woman and more than a bit of a pain in the tuchis, "like the ocean, she cannot be controlled or stopped, but simply must be taken as a given and respond or take precautions accordingly". Its the ocean and the weather--it can muck up anything it pleases, and we cruise and arrange our schedules and pay our dollars at our own peril. No one has died on DCL in the storms, can't say that for those just plain live in FLA or the caribbean.

And yes, when I go to WDW in 5 weeks there could well be another hurricane screwing up my first trip to Orlando in 4 years and ruining a rare extended family trip with family who live hundreds of miles away and are seen only rarely. And if so, thems the breaks.

Go ahead, flame-throwers, because I'm getting back to work, anyway....
 
logan1_2000 WOW -- this post should end with your reply! Couldn't have said it better myself. Well worded and very much to the point. Hurricane season is just that -- a season of hurricanes. When you book between June 30th and November 30th -- that is why you are getting a discounted rate! Gotta go with the flow.

No flames here, Logan. Did you ever think of running for office??
 
I guess some people really don't get it--the majority of complaints that past and present hurricane cruisers have had (other than understandable disappointment that no one can really remedy or no one is really expected to remedy) is related to the things that DCL DOES have control over--communication, consistency of information, and consistency of the way they make decisions and treat people. When there are problems on these dimensions, as many have reported, then I think people have a right to be upset and seek to be treated better.
 
While I will acknowledge that rates are lower typically in September, October, November, I think the point was made earlier that this probably has little to do with hurricane season and more to do with patterns of travel unrelated to hurricanes. Otherwise, the July and August cruises would also be deeply discounted and they are not (and our July cruise last year was threatened by three tropical storms that fortunately stayed away or petered out).
 
I totally agree - except as the above poster pointed out . Do not put the price of the July and early August cruises as reduced because of hurricane season, I cruise every year in August and when I look at the difference between September cruises and mine I do not think I got a bargain. And yes I did get caught up in Charley but did manage to board at PC on Saturday.
 
For those of you sailing today I hope that all the frustration fades away as you sail out of port. I think that Disney needs to be careful about communication, as they do have control over that. I can only imagine how awful it would be to drive in this terrible and dangerous weather to find out that you are not in the right place or that the sail date has changed. It is reasonable to be upset by that, I think most people would be! This is a place where everyone is allowed to vent, and much better to get it out here than to a loved one or a CM! On the other side I think the people who work at the DCL right now have an awfully difficult job. Trying to keep things running and worrying about family at home too. Difficult times for everyone.
 
This is a place where everyone is allowed to vent, and much better to get it out here than to a loved one or a CM!
I agree.
I know I would be stressed and upset if what happened to dinnysuw, such as :
did you hear that those on the magic that returned 8 hours early on friday were put up in disney resorts,treated to breakfast and transportation, plus 50% off future cruise. we were told when we arrived on friday after being told be DCL to come on down everything is fine, to find our own accomodations, they are full (because they were putting everyone on the magic in the resorts!) i am getting this off my chest
I think Disney failed them in the communication dept and left them hanging. Once you're there, in FL, it's not always easy as apple pie to turn around and just cancel.

A situation like this :
They actually docked in Galveton and gave people the option of departing that Saturday through Houston -- with free bus transportation. 600 got off -- but the majority chose to ride it out.
would have been no help to our family because we drive. Incurring an additional $1200-$1500 to fly our family of 5 back to our van would have added even more stress on to us. Or did they bus people for free back to PC ? I'm a little confused about this. I just know we would have had to have gotten back to PC to retrieve our van.

We're cruising in early November and I'm trying my best to mentally gear myself up for a negative experience should it arise. I plan on supplying our TA with our cell phone numbers just in case but I hope we would not be told "all is ok", only to get there after driving 17-18 hours from PA and not have any place to stay or not be given the opportunity to cancel from home. I can totally sympathize with the stress that people like dinnysuw and others are going through right now. Yes, I believe the refunds and such are very generous on DCL's part, but that can't discount some of the stuff they're doing (mainly not getting the correct, most up-to-date info out to their passengers ?). I'm only going by what I've been reading here on these boards the past several weeks. Good luck to all and I sincerely hope you can have a nice time despite the bumps in the road :wave:
 
No, they bussed you to Houston Airport. Those of us who stayed on eventually ended up back in Port Everglades (PC was closed). They provided bus transportation from Port Everglades to either Orlando Airport, Port Canaveral parking or Fort Lauderdale Airport. They even brought the Disney buses down to Port Everglades to transport everyone.
 
The lack of communication - with Disney saying that it was alright and to still come down (earlier in the week).

Could this not have caused by the following:

Port Canaveral to close Saturday 6 PM. OK - Magic will sail slightly ahead of time on Saturday (original talk had some people saying 3 PM).

UPDATE: Port Canaveral to close Saturday 10 AM. OK - Magic will now return Saturday AM and next cruise delayed to Monday (they had 2 terminals available at Port Everglades). I believe originally Port Everglades showed the Magic and the Wonder at terminals that were next to each other.

UPDATE: Port Canaveral to close Friday Midnight. OK - Magic will now return early.

UPDATE: Now, only 1 terminal availabe at Port Everglades. Quite possibly more ships needed to dock at Port Everglades with the situation. OK - Wonder will load at 1 - leave at 8. Magic will now check in at hotel for dinner and entertainment and then head to port after 8 to leave at 12.

I believe that DCL kept making the best decisions based on the latest information - and since the storm changed, sped up, etc. - it forced DCL to change what was happening.

I would venture that the other cruise lines had similar changes in their cruise plans - and ultimately, similar communication problems/last minute changes.
 
Do not put the price of the July and early August cruises as reduced because of hurricane season, I cruise every year in August and when I look at the difference between September cruises and mine I do not think I got a bargain.

I think the poster above wasn't saying that July and August WERE discounted months. I think the point was that if the cruises were discounted JUST BECAUSE of hurricane season then July and August would be included because of the risk of storms during those months, but they are not at this time.

The OP may clarify that if I have not.
 
I would venture that the other cruise lines had similar changes in their cruise plans - and ultimately, similar communication problems/last minute changes.
I'll bet others did also.....and all the more reason why cruisers in these situations would be stressed and need to vent here on these boards without being criticized/lectured (for lack of a better term). I think it's perfectly normal to vent when things like this happen. Just my thoughts :flower:

No, they bussed you to Houston Airport. Those of us who stayed on eventually ended up back in Port Everglades (PC was closed).
We too would have stayed on the ship out of necessisity of getting back to our car and not necessarily having the extra $1,200 to $1,500 for airfare back to FL. So I'm sure there were people like us who may have wanted to bail out but didn't have much of a choice.

Hope all the 9/27 passengers will have a good cruise from this point on :boat:
 
I believe now that my vacation is over that the frustration here is not with the hurricane but the lack of correct and consistent communication DCL provided its customers! We just returned from the 7 day western that turned to a "so called" 5 day. When we board the boat at 9:30ish this does NOT make a day! Disney was telling different cruisers different information at the same time. I do not think the CM's were given the knowlege they needed to inform us correctly! If a large corporation like Disney did not learn from there mistakes they would not be in business! We were treated like cattle for about 10 hours before boarding the ship, and were given misinformation for the 48 hours before that. For all of you who always believe Mickey is right.............he is not real! He is an emotion, in most of our hearts..........but the core of this emotion unfortunately revolves around money, they need to learn from these grave mistakes and change the protocol of how to deal with issues such as hurricanes in the future. This might even be to say "We are unsure at this time what will happen". I think that I would have been more satisfied to hear that in the long run, than to have been told a different story each time I called!

We did enjoy our cruise (not without drama on board) and the kids are thrilled that we will be going back next year with the discount. However, I do think my family was mistreated by Disney and I hope DCL learns from this season of unfortunate weather. We just want to know what DCL knew in a timely manner, even if that is you don't have any perminent decisions made.

What an experience,
missyoh8
 
Originally posted by missyoh8
I believe now that my vacation is over that the frustration here is not with the hurricane but the lack of correct and consistent communication DCL provided its customers!


I know there has been a lot of complaining in the past 6 weeks, but I wanted to comment on this.

Yes, I had an amazing cruise. Yes, DCL provided us with refunds/incentives which they did not need to do (from a legal perspective; clearly, everything they did was from a customer service perspective), and which I found to be very generous.

However, I agree with Missy about the consistent communication; the information we received, even on embarkation day while things were going on, was incorrect and caused us great distress. The people at the 800 number did not have the correct information, and information differed amongst the 800 number CMs.
 
Originally posted by Cruise04
I think the poster above wasn't saying that July and August WERE discounted months. I think the point was that if the cruises were discounted JUST BECAUSE of hurricane season then July and August would be included because of the risk of storms during those months, but they are not at this time.

The OP may clarify that if I have not.

July and August are in the hurricane season, it goes from June through November 30. However, the height of the hurricane season is mid August through September and that it typically when it is more active. You will see that most cruise lines do offer better rates during September and October, whether that is due to hurricane season or schools going back or a combo of them both.
 
Okay, we're back and if anyone has read any of our prior posts you will see that we are fairly unapologetic Disney and DCL fans. I have been slammed before for my opinions because I haven't lived through the horror of a hurricane impacted cruise. Well now I have and my perspective really hasn't changed.

Well, I guess there will always be a selected few who will stick up for Disney down to the bitter end...................me not being one of them!

Yep, there sure are and I've come to the bitter end! I have been a customer serivce professional for 20 years, and I am fanantical about providing exceptional serivce and I expect nothing less as a customer. And that's why I choose to spend a good deal of vacation money with Disney, they have very rarely dissappointed me as a customer. Have I always agreed with their policies or procedures, nope. Do I think there can be confilicting and confusing informattion, yep. But I have found that most issues are resolved well beyond my expectations.

To my fellow 9/27 cruisers, I'm sorry if you're experiences were frustrating and you certainly have every right to your feelings and opinions. What I'll share was our experience.

On posts just before we were to leave, I encourage everyone to keep in touch with DCL and don't expect them to call us. Why, because that is simply unrealistic. They have only so many people working for them, many of whom live in Florida and may have had to prepare for the hurricane. Also they are dealing with multiple cruises and issues and handling a zillion incoming calls. I checked with DCL Friday morning the 24th. All was still a go for Saturday embarkation. We were to leave the house at 12:30 EDT for the airport. I thought about calling before we left, then got busy and didn't. However, I checked the boards one more time and saw a post from theZitofamily about the change in departure date. Called DCL, information was confirmed.

Now the choice was mine. Fly to Fl as scheduled and ride out the hurricane, try to change our flights or cancel the cruise. Since we booked our air independently from Disney, I knew we were on our own for flights and accomodations. We chose to leave as scheduled, I figured getting a flight in Monday morning could be very difficult right after a hurricane. I also think I would have had penalties to pay to change our flights. So away we went.

While at the airport my TA called, she had been contacted about the change. She immeidately got on the phone and found us a place to stay for the three nights. We were originally booked at the Hyatt for Friday night, but they didn't have any rooms for Saturday and Sunday. She found us a suite at the Hilton Vacation club at Sea World for less a night than the Hyatt.

We got to Orlando, took a taxi to the resort and checked in for a weekend of quality family time. We had also given this cruise to one of our Aunts for Christmas. We booked she and her son with Disney air. DCL called the TA with changes to their flights Friday night.

I was going into Disboard withdrawal as I didn't have a pc. But we checked in via our best friends, who were on the boards because they were getting their Wonder Cruise changed to ours. Theirs is the 11 year old girl who surrvived cancer and was given the trip by a wish foundation. So we got some info that way. I also called DCL periodically to see what the latest was. Hurricanes tend to not do just what we would like them to and you won't know how much damage is done until it is over. So my expectations were that information would be chaning rapidly.

We weathered the storm very well indeed, thank God. My heart just breaks for those folks who have battled the elements for 6 weeks now. Monday came and off to the air port to catch a bus. Oh yeah, DCL called our Aunt and changed their flights again to get them into Miami.

We got to the air port at 9 am, we were on the first bus that pulled out at 10 am. At this point we hadn't heard about the Sheraton thing.

On the bus was a snack bag for the trip, which was about 3 3/12 hours. We pulled into PE to drop off Wonder guests. From what I heard there were a ridculous number of ships needing to use PE that day. The Magic was not supposed to be able to dock until the Wonder could pull out. Docking priority was given to those ships that had passengers to disembark, which to me makes sense, since they'd need to make flights and start the trips home. And people were coming from all over at all kinds of times due to changed flights and closed airports in order to embark.

Off to the Sheraton. DCL rented two big ball rooms, one with tables for us to sit at, one set up to run movies for the kids. We were able to check in, register our youngest for the lab, even make Palo, spa and shore excursion resrevations as they had crew from the Wonder helping with these. Food and drink was provided all day as well as entertainment and character appearences.

We thought this worked out great. We met up with our Aunt and Annie and her family and spent the day together. This also had to cost the company a lot of money. They really could have just let us all stay where we were, airports, hotels or wherever until they could take us right to the ship. I was appaled by the behavior of some of the guests. Screaming at the CMs who were just there to try and help. Hey, even if you have a legitimate beef, that doesn't excuse rude and abusive behavior.

Eventually we were called in groups to board busses for the ship, which had just pulled in at around 6 or 6:30 after another ship left. We were asked to remain on the bus, because it was cooler and the line was long already at the terminal. We understand that a ship doesn't just pull in and open it's doors and on we get. Customs has to clear the ship first, and that takes however long it takes.

Boarding was a bit chaotic, mostly becaue of the guests not listening and feeling like they had to get on first. Our other two families were first over to the ship so they were on about 7, we got on about 8:15. We went straight to dinner, took a deep breath and started a most excellent cruise.

We are going to receive a 40% refund for this trip, the 25% discount on a future cruise and we got $200.00 state room credit. Oops that's right, because everything took longer than expected on Monday, the company gave us all an additional $100.00 state room credit.

Sure we were sad that we lost 2 days and nights. Sure we were disappointed that we weren't going to CC. That wasn't Disney's fault. We feel they did the best they could and did it well. This was a constantly changing situation requiring flexiblity on everyone's part. The CM trying to run the passanger unloading from the buses told us that he had more than half his staff there trying to keep things moving. The other half were home trying to make repairs to damaged homes.

I'm sure we weren't treated any differently than anyone else, yet we had no significant complaints. We also went out of our way to say encouraging, supportive and kind things to all of the CMs we interacted with. One poor girl at the hotel was driven to the lady's room in tears because of the yelling and screaming people were doing at her, as if she made any of the decisions.

Someone said they missed Palo and the spa because reservations were full at the hotel. Did you ever check directly with those places on the ship. The times we were in Palo it was never full, so there had to be cancellations or openings. We also booked a spa appointment for my daughter on Wednesday for Thursday no problem. We found if we were pleasant, polite and proactive things seemed to go fine.

Finally, for perspective. And for those who have said before that the plights of the world shouldn't be brought into these posts, well get over it. Here was a real world eye opener for us. Because of this storm, cancellations and these boards, we got to share this cruise with our best friends and their daughters. The middle daughter, Annie is 11 and just survived a year battling cancer. How could I look at her happy, healthy face, lit up from enjoying the cruise and then complain because I waited too long to board the ship. The sobering fact is we may never have had the chance to sit at any dinner table with that princess ever again. We were grateful to be on this incredible ship, with our children and people we love and celebrating the life of our God-daughter. What could be better!
 

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