ILL times

[footballmouse]

2 questions:
- Can I purchase ILL (for Tron) if only attending the MNSSHP? Planning to arrive at 4:00
- If the ILL time is for 3:00, can you come past your time?

 

[footballmouse]

Does anyone have any advice on this topic?

 

[Tom_E_D]

Does anyone have any advice on this topic?

There was a previous thread discussing this: https://www.disboards.com/threads/c...-mnsshp-without-park-ticket-that-day.3952002/

 

[footballmouse]

Thank you, that link answered my question.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Thank you, that link answered my question.

I would not arrive more than 15 mins late to an ILL. I hit my GOTG like 45 mins late or something due to an ADR and it flashed blue and the CM stopped me and informed me I was past my window. I had to explain I had a Space 220 res that went late and then they let me through.

 

[Dave006]

If the ILL time is for 3:00, can you come past your time?

Why would you make a LLSP (new name for ILL) at 3 PM if you can't enter the park until 3:55 PM or later?

Can it be done yes, but it is rude, and disrespectful to guests who are using their LLSP correctly within the normal return window.

As @gottalovepluto indicated the CM gets to decide if you get to pass since the Mickey head at the tapstile will be Blue.

Dave

 

[disneylover102]

I would not arrive more than 15 mins late to an ILL. I hit my GOTG like 45 mins late or something due to an ADR and it flashed blue and the CM stopped me and informed me I was past my window. I had to explain I had a Space 220 res that went late and then they let me through.

Just curious, how long ago was this? 4 months ago when I was later than that (not on purpose of course) it turned green

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

Why would you make a LLSP (new name for ILL) at 3 PM if you can't enter the park until 3:55 PM or later?

Can it be done yes, but it is rude, and disrespectful to guests who are using their LLSP correctly within the normal return window.

As @gottalovepluto indicated the CM gets to decide if you get to pass since the Mickey head at the tapstile will be Blue.

Dave

Are the current rules different for the single and multi pass? It’s been reported here frequently that the grace period for the LLMP is 119 minutes, which we verified to be accurate several times a couple of weeks ago. I’ve never used a LLSP so I can’t verify the grace period on that version.

 

[scrappinginontario]

There is a grace period which is for exceptions, not planning to use. People planning on using the grace periods are still at the mercy of CM’s approving a guest to ride. People who plan to use the grace periods are a portion of the challenge we’re hearing about LL return lines are long thus lengthening standby waits too. It throws off the line metrix when guests arrive outside their return window

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

There is a grace period which is for exceptions, not planning to use. People planning on using the grace periods are still at the mercy of CM’s approving a guest to ride. People who plan to use the grace periods are a portion of the challenge we’re hearing about LL return lines are long thus lengthening standby waits too. It throws off the line metrix when guests arrive outside their return window

One correction here: Guests returning outside of the grace period are who are at the mercy of the ride attendant.

Guests returning within the grace period can automatically enter the attraction without question per the design of the system.

 

[Juventus]

I buy all ILLs for as early as possible. Just this week I had a 9:30am for Guardians and used it around 1:00pm. Never had any kind of issue doing this and I like the flexibility this way.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

I buy all ILLs for as early as possible. Just this week I had a 9:30am for Guardians and used it around 1:00pm. Never had any kind of issue doing this and I like the flexibility this way.

Did Mickey initially turn green or blue when you returned at 1 pm? There was a comment earlier in this thread about Mickey turning blue at 45 minutes after the reservation window at Guardians.

For Multi pass attractions, the current system design is set to green Mickey for any time less than 2 hours after the reservation window. I just can’t tell if the same grace period is in place for the single pass attractions.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

Why would you make a LLSP (new name for ILL) at 3 PM if you can't enter the park until 3:55 PM or later?

Can it be done yes, but it is rude, and disrespectful to guests who are using their LLSP correctly within the normal return window.

As @gottalovepluto indicated the CM gets to decide if you get to pass since the Mickey head at the tapstile will be Blue.

Dave

Dave - I’m not sure how using a lightning lane within the established parameters would be considered rude and disprestectful.

In the example given, if the return window is from 3 to 4pm, Mickey will turn green any time between 2:55 and 5:59 without any intervention by the ride attendant.

If I’m running a little late but still within that window, guests that arrived before me will find a slightly shorter wait. Guests that arrive after me will be in the exact same spot in line irregardless of my return time.

 

[scrappinginontario]

One correction here: Guests returning outside of the grace period are who are at the mercy of the ride attendant.

Guests returning within the grace period can automatically enter the attraction without question per the design of the system.

For the 15 min grace period, yes. But but not necessarily the 119 min grace period discussed above. Not all LLs will turn green for 119 mins after a LL has expired.

I believe you recently visited WDW with LLMP? If so, when were you there and how many times did you attempt/enter a queue between +16 and +119 mins after your LL expired? Did your LL ever turn blue or always turn green because we’ve had some reports of the Mickey head turning blue.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

For the 15 min grace period, yes. But but not necessarily the 119 min grace period discussed above. Not all LLs will turn green for 119 mins after a LL has expired.

I believe you recently visited WDW with LLMP? If so, when were you there and how many times did you attempt/enter a queue between +16 and +119 mins after your LL expired? Did your LL ever turn blue or always turn green because we’ve had some reports of the Mickey head turning blue.

Yes, we did recently visit and used about 35 sets of LLMPs for our family of 8.

I would estimate that we used about a dozen of them outside of the former 15 minute grace period, usually around an hour or so beyond the return window. Mickey turned green every single time. This was July 27 - August 1.

The only blue Mickey that we encountered that week was at Pooh Bear where we were about 4 hours beyond the original window. For that one, the ride attendant told us that as long as the pass was unused it was still valid and he let us right in.

Again, I can’t comment on the return window for the single pass attractions as we don’t purchase those.

 

[Juventus]

Did Mickey initially turn green or blue when you returned at 1 pm? There was a comment earlier in this thread about Mickey turning blue at 45 minutes after the reservation window at Guardians.

For Multi pass attractions, the current system design is set to green Mickey for any time less than 2 hours after the reservation window. I just can’t tell if the same grace period is in place for the single pass attractions.

For the single pass always green. I'm often 5+ hours late, I would guess about 30 different instances spread out across each available ride.

Again, that's just my experience with the Individual Lighning Lane.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

For the single pass always green. I'm often 5+ hours late, I would guess about 30 different instances spread out across each available ride.

Again, that's just my experience with the Individual Lighning Lane.

That seems pretty consistent.

@gottalovepluto - how long ago was it that you got blue lighted at Guardians?

The 15 minute grace period was printed on the original paper FastPass tickets in military time if you knew where to look. As far as I know, that’s the only version that had a stated period in place.

Many feel that the original window is still in effect but it sure looks like it might have changed.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Just curious, how long ago was this? 4 months ago when I was later than that (not on purpose of course) it turned green

April. Really surprised me as I was aware of the 119min thing. But even for MP, every once in a blue moon that 119 window doesn’t work. Maybe my GOTG tap in was like that, an exception rather than a rule? I don’t have much experience with ILLs outside of GOTG & I’d never pushed it outside the window before.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

April. Really surprised me as I was aware of the 119min thing. But even for MP, every once in a blue moon that 119 window doesn’t work. Maybe my GOTG tap in was like that, an exception rather than a rule? I don’t have much experience with ILLs outside of GOTG & I’d never pushed it outside the window before.

Thanks for the info. Your experience does seem to be different than others that have been reported in the past few months.

Either way, it is good to know that a sizeable buffer exists for those of us that move around slowly and get distracted quite often and it's also good to know that a blue Mickey still isn't necessarily considered as a stop sign.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

Dave - I’m not sure how using a lightning lane within the established parameters would be considered rude and disprestectful.

In the example given, if the return window is from 3 to 4pm, Mickey will turn green any time between 2:55 and 5:59 without any intervention by the ride attendant.

If I’m running a little late but still within that window, guests that arrived before me will find a slightly shorter wait. Guests that arrive after me will be in the exact same spot in line irregardless of my return time.

@Dave006 - I'm still curious why you consider this as rude and disrespectful? Maybe I'm missing something but returning within the established grace period, not matter how long it is, seems well within the park rules to me.