If you have a FP runner...

[OnTheRoadAgain]

For those of you who block, do you actually make them stop behind you, or do you just hassle them and still let them pass? I've been tempted, but have never actually stopped anyone from passing me...

I'd like to hear thoughts on this too.

 

[kailuagirl]

I've done it a couples times and it is really uncomfortable doing so, and it was for a good reason, not getting a fast pass.

Last year storybook had yet to open for its first ride of the day, but was getting ready to, we saw there were only 2 people in line so we excitedly went over to ride it as we'd be on the first boat of the day and thought that was so cool, there was me, DH and DD(3). The family of the day was the 2 people in line, they rudely and I mean rudely tell us there are 20 something other people joining them so we will be behind them (I can't remember the exact #). I was like what? There are 3 of us and you are going to let 20 something people get in front of us (I said to myself). I loudly talk it out with DH and explain we are going to have to wait then and won't get on the first boat and we are grumbling about the situation to each other and they ignore us. And again say there are 20 something people joining them. These people are no where to be seen, I recall them all from opening as they all had on matching t-shirts. Needless to say, the ride was opened up and ha, none of their people had returned so we got to ride it. But still to this day I can't believe the nerve of that family. And Disney did a really bad job picking them as family of the day, they were so rude and acted like they owned the place as a result So sad...

 

[smiles33]

I'd like to hear thoughts on this too.

I have stopped people and made them turn around and go back to the end of the line, but only young boys (under 13) not adult men or even young adult men who might be more angry/confrontational.

One time, I actually got applause from other parents nearby as these 2 young boys had pushed their way through, laughing and totally oblivious to other parents' stares. Didn't even say "excuse me!" Initially, I thought they might be re-joining a parent in front of us, but I could see they went up all the way to the front of the line. Since the line wrapped around a curve, I leaned over and asked the adults if those 2 boys were their kids (they hadn't said a thing to the boys but had glanced at each other with a funny look on their faces). When they shook their heads, no, I told the boys, "Hey boys, there's no cutting. You need to go back to to the end of the line. NOW." They looked at me sheepishly (they thought they had gotten away with it) and grudgingly pushed their way back (I couldn't see if they went all the way to the back).

Personally, I think it's important to model the right behavior to your kids. Sometimes people are too polite/nonconfrontational but I always think back to the poem about "First They Came For...." and not speaking out when you see wrongs being committed.

I told my DD5, who was standing with me, that cutting is unfair and that sometimes it's ok to tell people when they're doing something wrong or unfair. Of course, now I have the opposite problem where she notices everything that's "wrong" (like kids in kindergarten talking when they're not supposed to) so I need to figure out how to minimize her tattling.

 

[dnamertz]

And how would a large group know that they are violating your rule about catching up to the rest of their party in line? And where do you draw the line, 3 people, 5 people, etc.?

When you are cutting in line (and that is exactly what you are doing), it is you who should be apologetic and okay if someone decides not to allow you to pass. After all, you are the one who is breaking societal rules. Even if it is to take your little one to the bathroom, or for whatever justified reason, you are asking to be treated differently than those around you. And that is okay as long as you are nice and appreciative. What rubs people the wrong way is when we make exceptions for folks and they are not appreciative or they are lying about what they are doing.

If everyone continually cut in front of others, the lines would soon be meaningless. So keep the cutting to a minimum. And if you really need to cut, be nice to those around you. It would make all the difference.

Disneyland will still be there if you have to wait 5 minutes for a FP runner to catch up to you.

I agree with you. Cutting in line is not something I practice (I can't think of a time at DL where me or a member of a party had to rejoin the rest of our group in a line).

My issue was with the gray area people seem to be putting on the whole cutting issue. If we're going to define this practice as "cutting", then why allow it sometimes and not others. Cutting is cutting whether it's 1 person or 5. Cutting is cutting whether it's done someplace where the line is exposed, or if it's where the line is inside...it still puts you farther back in line no matter where it happens.

I've occassionally (but not a lot) had people pass me in line and I'm always assuming they're just catching up to they're group (I'm guessing 99% of the people who do this are rejoining they're group, and only 1% are actually trying to just get a free space near the front of the line). Again, as long as they are not pushing past people, and say "excuse me" if they need to get by, it doesn't ruin my day. Why ruin the experience of the 99% of these people who wants to enjoy the ride with the rest of his/her family because it might be the 1% who are truly trying to "cut" the line?

In a perfect world, everyone would wait in line together...but in the real world some people have to leave their group for numerous reasons. Maybe for valid reasons such as an unexpected potty break or medical reason, or maybe a not as valid reason such as FP runners or people who say "you guys get in line while I grab a snack and I'll join you in the line", or maybe some completely invalid reasons such as they just don't want to wait in a long line.

I'm not going to be the line police and block these people when I don't know they're reason. I say we either give people the benfit of the doubt, or we don't allow any type of "cutting" no matter what the reason (because we really don't know their reason).

 

[kailuagirl]

Last year at the Tangled Meet and Greet, we were all lined up in the "unofficial" line before they opened it up to line up. We were there about 45 minutes. The CM is getting ready to open it up for everyone to go into the official line and this lady walks up and goes to the front of the line. Everyone was like what? The first person in line said "excuse me, there is a line", and she said something like "I thought there was no official line until they opened it up" really sarcastic like. The CM had the ut oh look, like here we go. Then the first person said do you you see all these people that have been waiting, do you really think we are going to all let you just walk right up in front of us. The lady said some other things about it not being an official line, etc., but eventually gave up. I swear the nerve of some people. It's like they check their integrity at the door sometimes when they are in different places.

 

[HydroGuy]

For those of you who block, do you actually make them stop behind you, or do you just hassle them and still let them pass? I've been tempted, but have never actually stopped anyone from passing me...

We make sure they know we think what they are doing is rude so they will be less likely to do it next time. We have a big family so we have physically blocked people - or rather just refused to create a space for them to move through us - for awhile and then eventually we let them through and say something like they should not take cuts. The idea is to make them feel bad so they will stop.

 

[bumbershoot]

Great to get all these opinions and experiences! Our plan will be to meet with DH at the front of the line - can't ride without him since we will need to use baby swap too.

Baby swap is done before getting in line (or if the line extends outside of normal line boundaries, as soon as you get to the first CM), and it is at that point that you will be splitting apart, so its moot anyway, if the line you were going to enter is one of the ones you'd be swapping for.




All the people that are fine with it....I bet it's a subjective thing. Someone with the build of a triathlete like my skinny brother wouldn't get a peep, but I bet a LOT of money that the tune would change if my husband, built like a sumo wrestler, was doing the exact same move to catch up to us in line!


But we do what we think others should do. Heck, on one trip DS realized he had to pee two separate times just as we got to a certain point in the jungle cruise line. Both tomes were near a gate that made escape easy. DH could have waited there and let us back in, but even that didn't feel right to us. We all left the line. Third try of the trip we finally got on the ride!

 

[DisneyIsMagical]

It also says (without saying) "Your time is not as valuable as mine".

Personally, when my kid was younger, I would have just abandoned the line if she needed to use the restroom and couldn't wait. If we don't all get in line together, we don't ride together.

I like to err on the side of caution and not be rude to people. As a general rule when I've gone to DLR with several of my family members, one of the quick eaters in our group would run to get FP's while we were eating or stopping for a bathroom break. We wouldn't expect the runner to catch up with us if we were in line for a ride period. They would either have to skip that ride or end up single rider, or wait to ride as a group later in the trip.

Just my two cents

 

[LizzyS]

I would have to agree with those that say that it shouldn't be allowed, period. If you want to ride as a group, get in a line as a group. I wouldn't dare 'cut' in a line, people get too riled up about it and I don't think it's right.