If you do not RSVP, then I am not going to feel guilty

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I can't stand it when people do not RSVP, when the invitation CLEARLY states a response is needed.

I had my DS10's birthday party Saturday. It was at a movie theater. When I originally booked it, they told me the movie would be at noon time. I sent DS to school with the invitations, that said 11:30am. That same day, I called to confirm the party, and was told the movie time was at 1PM, not noon. YIKES.

So, I printed up new invitations, and sent DS to school with them the next day. I told him to make sure the kids know that it is a different time from the 1st invitation and that they give the invitation to their mom or dad.

When I received the 1st RSVP, I asked the mom what time the invitation said, she said 11:30. I explained that was the wrong one, and I had sent a new one with a different time. I told her the new time, and all was good. The next RSVP that came in said the invite had 12:30 on it. So DS DID give out the new invites.

Two out of the 11 boys did not RSVP. DS kept telling me, insisting, they were coming. He said they tell him everyday they are coming to his party. I told him more than once he needs to tell them to have their mom call me. Nope, no calls from either boy. Since they never called, I could not make sure they had the correct time. I thought about going to the movie theater at 11:30 in case they showed up, but I had a million and one things to do and I just couldn't shorten my morning. I felt bad, but then felt that had they RSVP'd like they were supposed to, I wouldn't have to worry about them showing up an hour early.

Well, long story short, neither of the two boys showed up. OK, so it could very well be they never intended to come (or their parents never intended for them to come) OR....they looked at the wrong invite, showed up at 11:30, and saw the place locked up, with nobody there. (the movie theater had the doors locked until 12:30). If I had an invitation that said 11:30 and nobody was there, I might wait around a few minutes, but certainly not an hour.

I felt guilty all weekend, thinking they may have shown up at 11:30, but why do I feel guilty? They should have RSVP'd.
 
I can't stand it when people do not RSVP, when the invitation CLEARLY states a response is needed.

I had my DS10's birthday party Saturday. It was at a movie theater. When I originally booked it, they told me the movie would be at noon time. I sent DS to school with the invitations, that said 11:30am. That same day, I called to confirm the party, and was told the movie time was at 1PM, not noon. YIKES.

So, I printed up new invitations, and sent DS to school with them the next day. I told him to make sure the kids know that it is a different time from the 1st invitation and that they give the invitation to their mom or dad.

When I received the 1st RSVP, I asked the mom what time the invitation said, she said 11:30. I explained that was the wrong one, and I had sent a new one with a different time. I told her the new time, and all was good. The next RSVP that came in said the invite had 12:30 on it. So DS DID give out the new invites.

Two out of the 11 boys did not RSVP. DS kept telling me, insisting, they were coming. He said they tell him everyday they are coming to his party. I told him more than once he needs to tell them to have their mom call me. Nope, no calls from either boy. Since they never called, I could not make sure they had the correct time. I thought about going to the movie theater at 11:30 in case they showed up, but I had a million and one things to do and I just couldn't shorten my morning. I felt bad, but then felt that had they RSVP'd like they were supposed to, I wouldn't have to worry about them showing up an hour early.

Well, long story short, neither of the two boys showed up. OK, so it could very well be they never intended to come (or their parents never intended for them to come) OR....they looked at the wrong invite, showed up at 11:30, and saw the place locked up, with nobody there. (the movie theater had the doors locked until 12:30). If I had an invitation that said 11:30 and nobody was there, I might wait around a few minutes, but certainly not an hour.

I felt guilty all weekend, thinking they may have shown up at 11:30, but why do I feel guilty? They should have RSVP'd.

Maybe the Mom said "tell Johnny you will be there" and considered that an rsvp. It's not "right" but I bet that is what happened. I probably would have called the Mom myself to make sure she had the right time. More work for me, but I am the one who sent out incorrect invites in the first place.
 
Maybe the Mom said "tell Johnny you will be there" and considered that an rsvp. It's not "right" but I bet that is what happened. I probably would have called the Mom myself to make sure she had the right time. More work for me, but I am the one who sent out incorrect invites in the first place.

I didn't have any of the boys numbers. I certainly would have called to correct the mistake.

Yes, incorrect invites went out, but I corrected that by sending out new invites with the correct time.
 
I didn't have any of the boys numbers. I certainly would have called to correct the mistake.

Yes, incorrect invites went out, but I corrected that by sending out new invites with the correct time.

I would have tried to find a number- if you couldn't then you couldn't.

I know you sent corrected invites- but you also sent incorrect invites.

It's water under the bridge now anyway- the boys will survive!
 

Maybe the invitations fell to the bottom of the boys' backpacks and mom and dad never saw them. I mail party invitations so that I know they go right to the source.
 
You did nothing wrong. RSVP stands for "Repondez si vous plait", translated literally "Please respond". People now just assume this means "Regrets Only", or worse, "Just show up (or not) whatever.":headache: If they had done what they were supposed to on either invite and called you, you would have confirmed the corrected time. So they either showed up and left without the correct info, or didn't show up...either way they should have called you.

I wouldn't give this one more thought.

One year I sent in invites to DS's PreK class, and I wrote on the invites 3 different times, "please respond-yes or no I need to know how many kids will attend." I STILL had to call some, and even when I called one kid's mom TWICE and left a pleading message, she still didn't call or show up. Some people just have no class.
 
If I'd had the boys' numbers, I would have called. Simply because of the mix-up in starting time between the two invitations. I bet you would have, too. But the point is, IF the parents received the invitation (either one) it is their responsibility to call you and RSVP. It's not the party-throwers job to track down all invites to see whether or not their coming to the party, IMO. THAT is what an RSVP is for!!!

But, playing devil's advocate, maybe neither of the boys' families received the invitations. Like you, I never take my child's friend's word that "yes, I'm coming." I always remind my child to tell her friend, "have your mom call my mom to get all the details".

Either way, get rid of the guilt. I don't think it's your fault. If I had been one of the boys' moms, if I showed up at the movie theater at 11:30 and it was closed, I would have called you to double-check the time. But again, that would only have been possible if 1) your phone number is listed, or 2) they had the invitation with them.

I think I found the "cure" to all the non-RSVP'ers on the DISboars. Don't put all the necessary info on the invitations. Leave out either the start time or location, or date of party. Then, they have no choice but to call to get the rest of the details. And then you have your RSVP. Great idea, IMO! :thumbsup2
 
I wouldn't worry about it. I know it's hard not to but I hate when kids relay the RSVP's but it does start happening around 4th/5th grade here.

Although, I will say -- we have a school directory here & I've been WAY more proactive on calling parents that haven't RSVP'd in anyway. I always mail the invitations, mostly because we aren't allowed to send them out at school. However, I found TWICE the mailed invitations didn't seem to get to the house. I have had very surprised moms go "what party????"

One I double-checked the address but she had been having problems (they literally moved their house to a previous vacant lot)...2 weeks AFTER the birthday party I get the invite as "return to sender - no such address" and I had mailed them about 3 weeks before the party. Unfortunately for my oldest son, the way his birthday falls his invitations tend to go out at the same time Christmas cards do. I'm thinking that one may have gotten mixed with Christmas cards and the mom never saw it was an invite.

I have tried just about every trick to get the RSVP's and it's rare I'm not calling someone. After the 2nd attempt, I leave a message of "If I don't hear from you by X date, I will assume you are not able to make it" -- that way if I don't hear from them, I'm not wondering and also it lets them know that if they WERE planning on coming they had better call me or they are being taken off the list. ;) I have no idea if it works or not but it at least makes me feel like I did what I could & if they show up and we are short something it's not my fault.
 
hrh disney queen said:
You did nothing wrong. RSVP stands for "Repondez si vous plait", translated literally "Please respond". People now just assume this means "Regrets Only", or worse, "Just show up (or not) whatever."
Yeah. We need to start a new tradition. None of this French abbrevation stuff, or non-sentence nonsense.

"We need to know by __/__ if you will be joining us.
Otherwise, we will not expect you,
we will not plan for you,
and we will not be able to provide for you".
Please call 000-000-0000 by 8 PM Friday​
 
I didn't have any of the boys numbers. I certainly would have called to correct the mistake.

Yes, incorrect invites went out, but I corrected that by sending out new invites with the correct time.

If you do not have their number you have your son get their number. That is standard procedure these days. So next time, go that route if you need to.
 
Once my kids got to double digits, they were responsible for finding out who was coming (and if a child didn't rsvp, my kids called them).
 
Yeah. We need to start a new tradition. None of this French abbrevation stuff, or non-sentence nonsense.

"We need to know by __/__ if you will be joining us.
Otherwise, we will not expect you,
we will not plan for you,
and we will not be able to provide for you".
Please call 000-000-0000 by 8 PM Friday​

I just did this, well...close to it. Doesn't matter what you write, some people don't bother. From now on, I'm using the 'leave some info out' trick!!!

I wrote 'Please call me before X date to let us know whether you will be able to attend or not. Phone number, e-mail address'.

Our of 8 children; 5 parents RSVPd. 1 sent her regrets. 3 showed up to the party. One was a no show, no call, no contact since then. 3 just didn't even bother calling or e-mailing or saying anything to me at the school where I see them nearly every day!
 
Yeah. We need to start a new tradition. None of this French abbrevation stuff, or non-sentence nonsense.

"We need to know by __/__ if you will be joining us.
Otherwise, we will not expect you,
we will not plan for you,
and we will not be able to provide for you".
Please call 000-000-0000 by 8 PM Friday​

I'm going to remember this one!!!
 
No matter what, I still have you beat with what happened at DD's last birthday party. :scared1: One kid's mom never bothered to RSVP, so I assumed she wasn't coming. The girl and her mom walked in one hour after the party started....and it was a party with an activity at a venue, so walking in that late threw a major monkey wrench in things. (Thank goodness, I had an extra goody bag.) The mom asked when she needed to pick her up and I said, "In one hour, at 5:00." Mom left.

Mom never picked her up. Never. Ever. The poor party venue lady had to stay open an hour and a half late while we waited and waited and waited. We couldn't call because they'd recently changed all their numbers. The little girl claimed she had no idea what the new numbers were. We suspected (and DD confirmed later) that she was lying because she preferred to stay with us rather than go home. :sad2:

Finally, after waiting an hour and a half, we decided to find their house and hope someone was home. Mind you, we had no legal right to take the kid in our car, but what choice did we have? (DH wanted to call CPS. :rotfl:) Family had driven in for DD's birthday (90 minute trip each way) and our dinner out was delayed, so now they had an even later drive back home. Major PITA. We drove up to her house and there were FOUR vehicles there.

They had never even noticed she was missing. The front door was unlocked, so DH just walked in with the kid and no one even noticed that either. He was so irritated that he just left. So from all we observed, they would have taken HOURS to have figured out they had neglected to pick up their kid. No wonder she wanted to stay with us. :rolleyes1 At least we notice when a kid is AWOL. :eek:

In your shoes, I wouldn't feel guilty. You made an honest mistake, corrected it, and if someone failed to phone you, they walked into what happened. People need to learn to RSVP.
 
Holycow

why didn't you just mail the invites instead of all of the hassle?

I also would have called the people to follow up since you weren't even sure which invite the 10 yr. old had...

I also wouldn't have dropped them at the school and made the other kids feel bad that weren't invited to your party.
 
Holycow

why didn't you just mail the invites instead of all of the hassle?

I also would have called the people to follow up since you weren't even sure which invite the 10 yr. old had...

I also wouldn't have dropped them at the school and made the other kids feel bad that weren't invited to your party.

I don't know about all schools, but at DD's less than half the kids are listed in the directory. Some of them only have their name listed, not their phone number or address. So you can call or send an invitation to 1/3 of them, at best. Almost everyone hands them out at school for that reason.

We do have the rule that you must invite the entire class OR all the boys or all the girls, but most kids do that anyway.
 
Once my kids got to double digits, they were responsible for finding out who was coming (and if a child didn't rsvp, my kids called them).

Absolutely agree with this. I haven't called to RSVP to my child's birthday party for several years now and he just turned 12. The boys always tell each other at school if they are coming or not.

If I were you, I would have called each parent with the new time or made sure someone was at the theater to meet any potential early arrivals due to the invitation errors.
 
Yeah. We need to start a new tradition. None of this French abbrevation stuff, or non-sentence nonsense.

"We need to know by __/__ if you will be joining us.
Otherwise, we will not expect you,
we will not plan for you,
and we will not be able to provide for you".
Please call 000-000-0000 by 8 PM Friday​

But can't you find a nicer, more gracious way to say that? That does not sound like a friendly invite at all and I think I would be afraid to attend.:lmao:
 
I can't stand it when people do not RSVP, when the invitation CLEARLY states a response is needed.

I felt guilty all weekend, thinking they may have shown up at 11:30, but why do I feel guilty? They should have RSVP'd.

In this situation, I would have called the Mom's myself to clarify the time. Did you try that?
 
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