If you believe in birth control...

DisDuck said:
This is to be a 'strict' catholic town. According to the article, the developer is looking for a pharmacy to sign a lease for the mall which will located in the town. However, any pharmacy signing this lease will have a convenent in it that NO CONTRACEPTIONS of any kind can be sold/dispensed as contraception except for 'natural' is against catholic policy.

He needs to be educated - there are a number of reasons to be on the pill besides for birth control. I used to be and now my daughter is. Thank God for planned parenthood!

Pretty sad when others have power over what you and your doctor decide!
 
The more people try to impose their beliefs on others, the more they convince us that they're immoral. Don't they realize that?
 
my3kids said:
I agree. I have more of a problem with them keeping the prescription than with having to have another pharmicist fill the medicine.


If anyone did that to me, I would call the cops and have them arrested.

I get my birth control from Target with no problems. But I live in an urban/75% liberal area.
 
bicker said:
The more people try to impose their beliefs on others, the more they convince us that they're immoral. Don't they realize that?


I believe in personal choice but I don't believe a pharmacist refusing to fill a perscription is trying to impose their beliefs.

I also believe that choice would extend to the pharmacist as well. If their personal belief say that birth control is wrong, wouldn't that make them hypocrites for dispensing any form of birth control?

What ever the decision the pharmacist makes, they should not keep the script. It wasn't theirs to begin with.

I also believe that you have a choice. If a pharmacy will not dispense a particular drug, go somewhere else.
 

declansdad said:
I believe in personal choice but I don't believe a pharmacist refusing to fill a perscription is trying to impose their beliefs.

I also believe that choice would extend to the pharmacist as well. If their personal belief say that birth control is wrong, wouldn't that make them hypocrites for dispensing any form of birth control?

No, it would make them a good employee (assuming they work for a place where there isn't a policy against selling them).

Since you believe in choice, that person has the choice to find a pharmacy that supports their views. If they do not make that choice, I support the employers choice to fire their butt.
 
I believe in personal choice but I don't believe a pharmacist refusing to fill a perscription is trying to impose their beliefs.
I'm sorry but I find your position contradictory. No one is forcing the pharmacist to take the pills -- only to dispense them. It's no different than a Jewish police officer guarding a church on Christmas. :rolleyes:

I also believe that choice would extend to the pharmacist as well. If their personal belief say that birth control is wrong, wouldn't that make them hypocrites for dispensing any form of birth control?
Would a Jewish police officer guarding a church on Christmas be considered a hypocrite? Assertions of hypocricy with regard to this arrogant behavior by some pharmacists are nothing more than rationalizations.
 
cardaway said:
No, it would make them a good employee (assuming they work for a place where there isn;t a poliy against selling them).

Since you believe in choice, that person has the choice to find a pharmacy that supports their views. If they do not make that choice, I support the employers choice to fire their butt.


I think I actually agree with you for the first time in my short DIS stay. I don't think that any pharmacist should dispense an item that is against their religious belief, however if they don't and they get fired then good for them for standing up for their beliefs. Like you said if they don't like the company policies and get fired for it, then find a place to work that lines up with their beliefs. Under no circumstances should the script be kept and not returned in this situtation.
 
I don't think that a pharmacist should be able to refuse a prescription written by a doctor for a drug that has been approved by the FDA. In fact, I think that they should be subject to disciplinary action by their state licensing agency. I really don't think that it is any of the pharmacist's business what FDA approved medication I am chosing to take after consultation with my doctor and if they have a problem with certain medications then maybe they need to look into a career change.

I live in IL and in an urban area. I'm most likely (unless a pharmacist holds/steals my script) not going to have a problem having my BCP prescription filled (although we did have an "incident" in my town last summer where a pharmacist refused to fill a morning after pill prescription). What I worry about is women who live in more rural communities who do not have access to numerous pharmacies with a couple of miles. Walmart's business plan is to set up shop in more rural markets where they have (generally speaking) managed to put all the other pharmacists out of business. The big problem is when one of these rural Walmart pharmacists refuse to fill a contraceptive prescription and the patient has no other choice but to drive 30 or 50 miles to the next pharmacy.

Done with my rant...flame away!
 
Massachusetts has just recently forced Wal-Mart to carry the "Morning after" pill.
 
declansdad said:
I also believe that you have a choice. If a pharmacy will not dispense a particular drug, go somewhere else.
Unfortunately, in many communities, there is no choice. The problem is especially worrisome in areas where Walmart has driving all other pharmacies out of business and is your only option, since Walmart has a policy allowing its pharmacist to choose which drugs they are willing to give people.

People with moral problems giving people the drugs they need have a choice - they can choose to not be a pharmacist. But once you become a pharmacist, you need to do your job.
 
cardaway said:
No, it would make them a good employee (assuming they work for a place where there isn;t a poliy against selling them).

Since you believe in choice, that person has the choice to find a pharmacy that supports their views. If they do not make that choice, I support the employers choice to fire their butt.

Sorry I'm not following you. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?
 
salmoneous said:
People with moral problems giving people the drugs they need have a choice - they can choose to not be a pharmacist. But once you become a pharmacist, you need to do your job.


Big :thumbsup2 !

Clearly anyone who has made the choice to become a pharmacist in the last 20-30 years knew that dispensing birth control pills would be part of their job. If they anticipated a problem, they should have chosen a different career.
 
bicker said:
I'm sorry but I find your position contradictory. No one is forcing the pharmacist to take the pills -- only to dispense them. It's no different than a Jewish police officer guarding a church on Christmas. :rolleyes:

Would a Jewish police officer guarding a church on Christmas be considered a hypocrite? Assertions of hypocricy with regard to this arrogant behavior by some pharmacists are nothing more than rationalizations.

What I'm trying to say is that just as you would have a choice to take a form of birth control based on your personal beliefs/convictions, why shouldn't the pharmacist have the same freedom of choice with regards to dispensing the drugs?
 
cardaway said:
No, it would make them a good employee (assuming they work for a place where there isn;t a poliy against selling them).

Since you believe in choice, that person has the choice to find a pharmacy that supports their views. If they do not make that choice, I support the employers choice to fire their butt.

::yes:: ITA.

If you have beliefs that prevent you from performing your job properly, then you need to find another career. If a pharmacist doesn't believe in the BCP and refuses to dispense it, they need to find another job. End of.

It's common sense.
 
a pharmacist that truly stood up for himself or herself wouldn't accept employment from a company that dispensed birth control. if my wife and I decide d she needed to go on birth control and her doctor agreed, a guy filling pill bottles is a third party. his opinions don't matter. if you want to make your opinions known, flush all of the birth control products down the toilet and quit. take a real stand. no, they just want have a chance to look a woman in the eye, and judge her. all they have to do is have one of the techs fill it if they can't do it because of their moral grounds. but nooooo.
 
declansdad said:
What I'm trying to say is that just as you would have a choice to take a form of birth control based on your personal beliefs/convictions, why shouldn't the pharmacist have the same freedom of choice with regards to dispensing the drugs?

They have got the freedom of choice - the freedom to get out of a job which causes them to do things that they don't agree with.

It's that simple :confused3
 
VSL said:
::yes:: ITA.

If you have beliefs that prevent you from performing your job properly, then you need to find another career. If a pharmacist doesn't believe in the BCP and refuses to dispense it, they need to find another job. End of.

It's common sense.

That is like saying if you don't beleive in any one part of your job, you should find another.

I realize that this is a very important issue and i'm not trying to make light of it but there are two sides to every issue and sometimes when we have a personal attachment we forget the other side.
 
declansdad said:
That is like saying if you don't beleive in any one part of your job, you should find another.

No, I'm saying that if your beliefs are preventing you from performing your job properly you should find another.

Going into pharmacy, you know that you may have to depsense drugs that you do not approve of. If you don't like it, you should either look into another career, or just deal with it. It's not the pharmacists place to decide what is/isn't right for the woman.

Goodness, if a pharmacist did that here there would be nationwide outrage! And rightly so!
 
declansdad said:
That is like saying if you don't beleive in any one part of your job, you should find another.

I realize that this is a very important issue and i'm not trying to make light of it but there are two sides to every issue and sometimes when we have a personal attachment we forget the other side.

If anyone part of your job would cause you severe angst, then yes you should find another job or an employer that will allow you to not perform that one part.
 












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