I propose standard view Beach Club Villa's...

[DanenRox]

This is the second time I've stayed at BCV and been assigned a room with a view of a busy road and again I wonder why this room view doesn't qualify for a reduced point stay. I find the view and the noise level far less desirable than the standard view rooms at Boardwalk Villa. Oh yes, I can see the top of the EPCOT ball and pieces of Illuminations at night---bits and pieces. I LOVE to sit on my balcony at least a part of every Disney day...but to watch and hear passing cars does not take me away to a peaceful place. I'guess DVC figures if I can see sprinkles of fireworks for several minutes at night I'll disregard the terrible view for the remaining 23 hours and 52 minutes a day. Again, the standard BWV view is more tranquil and more appealing. I propose the road view at BCV be a reduced point view. Oh yes I do.

 

[DebbieB]

But then the other room's points would have to be raised to balance it. It's already sold out, I don't think that would go over well. I think they did it at BWV because there is a huge difference between looking at the lake vs looking at the driveway. I don't think it's as big a difference at BCV, it's either road/Epcot, woods or pool.

 

[Muushka]

There are rooms at VWL that I believe should also get a discount on the points. And if they had to raise the points in the more desirable rooms, so be it.

And since they have gotten the view thing going again with the new DVC's, they can't use that as an excuse any more.

OP, I'm with you.

 

[DebbieB]

I think it would be difficult to go back and reshuffle the points at a soldout resort. They do have the right to do that but it's supposed to be due to seasonal demands, not to reorganize the view categories. When they did it at BWV, it was very early on and they just adjusted the number of total points available to be sold, they didn't raise the points on preferred.

 

[shellybaxter]

I love the BCV view of the road and the fireworks. I would be very happy to get that view guarenteed with less points

 

[Deb & Bill]

At BCV there really isn't a prime view. Every one is a bit lacking. So you make them all standard and make them the same points. Exactly what you have now.

Same with VWL. Unless you like trees, don't book at VWL. Just about every view is a tree/woods view. The five or six rooms that have a nicer view wouldn't be worth all the extra points you'd have to assign them to make up for reducing the points on the other rooms.

 

[LIFERBABE]

At BCV there really isn't a prime view. Every one is a bit lacking. So you make them all standard and make them the same points. Exactly what you have now.

Same with VWL. Unless you like trees, don't book at VWL. Just about every view is a tree/woods view. The five or six rooms that have a nicer view wouldn't be worth all the extra points you'd have to assign them to make up for reducing the points on the other rooms.

I agree, staying at BCV for the view is like eating at Chef Mickey's for the food
Love it there, but I spend most of my time out front by the lake and SAB.

 

[DanenRox]

I don't mind "no view"....or a view of trees, a patch of grass, a flower pot. I just really don't enjoy a view of passing cars. Disney works so hard throughout their resort to hide/obscure cars/roadways/road noise...hiding all the reminders of reality may be what Disney does best. So to check in this otherwise beautiful Villa and get a view of a roadway is sooo disappointing to me. In the future I ask front desk to help me avoid this view. If I was sitting at a bar (or a restaurant) next to DVC's top dog, I would re-pitch my "standard point" case....I think it's absolutely valid!

 

[eliza61]

There are rooms at VWL that I believe should also get a discount on the points. And if they had to raise the points in the more desirable rooms, so be it.

And since they have gotten the view thing going again with the new DVC's, they can't use that as an excuse any more.

OP, I'm with you.

Aagh bite your tongue Muushka,
No way would I support a point raise especially for a room view. Remember BCV's was built after the resort was up so it was definitely hindered as to options.
Op, while you may think it's valid, why not post a poll to see how many folks here would support your view. My vote is a definite No way.
I've always found that the easiest way for me to deal with a bad view (if it truly upset me) is to simple go downstairs and request another room. I don't think I should be penalized because you don't like your view. Sorry.

 

[zalansky]

They won't change the point charts I am sure, but I do agree that the road view is god awful. I am sensitive to outside noise at night and hearing cars go by constantly takes away from the experience. Especially when you walk to Epcot and use the walkway behind the buildings and see all those people enjoying their wooded/Epcot views.

 

[Granny]

I propose the road view at BCV be a reduced point view.

I'm not big on re-shuffling points at any resort, but I do think that every resort should have guaranteed booking view categories. I am quite sure that MS could compile a list for every resort of the most common requests for room location and set that up as a separate booking category (no difference in points).

That way, the owners of a resort would get first shot at those rooms as they should. And everyone would have a better idea of what they are getting when they book.

This concept works well at BWV (2 Preferred View categories with same points) and now OKW. It seems they should be able to do something like this fairly easily. At a resort like SSR, I think it should be implemented as soon as possible since there is such a big discrepancy in various locations. Just my two cents.

YMMV

 

[Muushka]

Aagh bite your tongue Muushka,
No way would I support a point raise especially for a room view. Remember BCV's was built after the resort was up so it was definitely hindered as to options.
Op, while you may think it's valid, why not post a poll to see how many folks here would support your view. My vote is a definite No way.
I've always found that the easiest way for me to deal with a bad view (if it truly upset me) is to simple go downstairs and request another room. I don't think I should be penalized because you don't like your view. Sorry.

I'm not big on re-shuffling points at any resort, but I do think that every resort should have guaranteed booking view categories. I am quite sure that MS could compile a list for every resort of the most common requests for room location and set that up as a separate booking category (no difference in points).

That way, the owners of a resort would get first shot at those rooms as they should. And everyone would have a better idea of what they are getting when they book.

This concept works well at BWV (2 Preferred View categories with same points) and now OKW. It seems they should be able to do something like this fairly easily. At a resort like SSR, I think it should be implemented as soon as possible since there is such a big discrepancy in various locations. Just my two cents.

YMMV

Mornin' Eliza, Granny

I remember our very first time at VWL getting a 1 BR (the studio idea only worked once!). The CM showed us on the map where the room was and we knew right away what the view was and asked her please, can't we get another room. She flatly told us no, that was it. Or move into it and move back out tomorrow for the fee and aggravation. We stayed.

But it was in that room that we were so disappointed with the view that we wrote member services and asked about point restructure. View is very important to us.

I would be willing to pay the extra points to have a good view and I would be willing to save points and have the bad view, but the way it is now, it is not right.

Then you have non-owners and people renting points that know exactly what to ask for when checking in (this is why I never answer the question 'Which room has the best view'? Owners do not get any preference.

Granny has summed it up very well. Give the owners preferential treatment. Isn't that what they do at SSR and OKW? Or restructure the points. One or the other.

Same goes for BCV. We have been lucky there, but having a room on the road would not be good.

 

[shellybaxter]

I have read several of the "guarenteed booking category" threads and the one concern that resinates with me is the concern that it could be harder to get a reservation at the resorts for the same room. For example, right now at BCV you reserve - lets say - a one bedroom for ten days. Right now DVC can book you into any 1 bedroom that is open for that amount of time. If there were booking catagories DVC would only be able to offer you a one bedroom in one category at a time. Lets say there was a value view catagory but it was only available for five days then you would have to move to a regular view. I don't like to move that much so I would not like a policy that made moving more likely

 

[tjkraz]

At BCV there really isn't a prime view. Every one is a bit lacking. So you make them all standard and make them the same points. Exactly what you have now

I totally agree!

We stayed there once and despite being on the top floor with a great view of the Epcot fireworks, I have little desire to go again. Other than the 20 minutes of fireworks, our room was really a "road view" with traffic passing by all day. The pool and woods views aren't much better comparatively speaking. A BoardWalk view at BWV costs the same number of points or there are many other options which are cheaper (BWV Standard, several AKV categories, SSR, OKW.)

SAB is nice but it's still "waterpark lite." I'd rather pay a few dollars more for TL or BB.

I have read several of the "guarenteed booking category" threads and the one concern that resinates with me is the concern that it could be harder to get a reservation at the resorts for the same room.

That's very true and it's the one valid argument against any sort of categories. BCV would not be a good candidate since it's so small (just over 200 units) and occupancy is so high.

But I think 500+ unit OKW absorbed the categories fairly well and SSR could certainly function with 2 or 3 separate categories. These two resorts are often at less than 100% occupancy. Whenever that's the case the categories shouldn't cause any problems with reservations. Yes, there would be times when people would be forced to split their reservation in order to book all of the desired dates. But these would (hopefully!) be few and far between. And the categories are still justifiable if they serve the greater good.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Do other timeshares have booking categories like DVC? There weren't any booking categories until DVC decided that some of the rooms at BWV were a bit lacking in the view and, thus, the Standard view.

I'd rather do away with all booking categories.

 

[CarolA]

This is the second time I've stayed at BCV and been assigned a room with a view of a busy road and again I wonder why this room view doesn't qualify for a reduced point stay. I find the view and the noise level far less desirable than the standard view rooms at Boardwalk Villa. Oh yes, I can see the top of the EPCOT ball and pieces of Illuminations at night---bits and pieces. I LOVE to sit on my balcony at least a part of every Disney day...but to watch and hear passing cars does not take me away to a peaceful place. I'guess DVC figures if I can see sprinkles of fireworks for several minutes at night I'll disregard the terrible view for the remaining 23 hours and 52 minutes a day. Again, the standard BWV view is more tranquil and more appealing. I propose the road view at BCV be a reduced point view. Oh yes I do.

I propose that ALl of these proporals GO AWAY. Chopping a resort up into little "categories" is just making a booking nightmare.
IMHO changes like this AFTER the initial sale should not be allowed!!!!! I knew what I was buying when I bought and if having a specific "view" was important then I should not have bought where one was not guranteed! (and yes I have had this view at BCV several times. I have managed to survive just fine and failed to need to complain, whine or petetion for change!)

Guess I have to write DVC and tell them that NO just because SOME members are FOR this, that does not mean everyone is!

 

[Muushka]

I propose that ALl of these proporals GO AWAY. Chopping a resort up into little "categories" is just making a booking nightmare.
IMHO changes like this AFTER the initial sale should not be allowed!!!!! I knew what I was buying when I bought and if having a specific "view" was important then I should not have bought where one was not guranteed! (and yes I have had this view at BCV several times. I have managed to survive just fine and failed to need to complain, whine or petetion for change!)

Guess I have to write DVC and tell them that NO just because SOME members are FOR this, that does not mean everyone is!

Don't hold back your feelings Carol! Just let us know how you really feel!

Little categories, 2. Total. Plus, 2 resorts (OKW and SSR if I remember correctly) have given preferred locations for owners. What is wrong with that?

 

[bobbiwoz]

I think it's a shame that SSR owners can't pick the section they want when they make their reservation. Now the exception will be the treehouses, and since they're the same number of points as a 2 bedroom, I hope that MS gets it right for everyone's reservation. Maybe though, when they begin booking treehouses, maybe then, SSR will get some booking preference categories.

Bobbi

PS. I've had road views at BCV, yes I thought it noisy on the balcony...in fact, I think the dedicated 2 bedroom that we had in November would be one of those. It was too cold to use the balcony, probably the first time ever that I only went out on it once. I don't think it would be desirable to segment BCV categories.

PPS. I think VWL check in people think we like the far end rooms because that's what we often get....referred to as dumpster view, but more significant in my mind as the far end of the hallway. Just for the record, I'm OK with leaving the point structure alone for that one too. I look in the trees, not down...I've seen lots of birds. Yes, there's also delivery people...I don't know, I can see people's point, but it's such a small resort, I would hate to have to change rooms during a vacation just for the view.

 

[Disneypirate85]

I too support owners preferred location. I mean THEY OWN IT! Someone comes along rents points and bumps a true owner out is very very sad
HOWEVER changing it all now after sell out could be a nightmare, noway it will please every owner.

 

[Muushka]

I think it's a shame that SSR owners can't pick the section they want when they make their reservation. Now the exception will be the treehouses, and since they're the same number of points as a 2 bedroom, I hope that MS gets it right for everyone's reservation. Maybe though, when they begin booking treehouses, maybe then, SSR will get some booking preference categories.

Bobbi

PS. I've had road views at BCV, yes I thought it noisy on the balcony...in fact, I think the dedicated 2 bedroom that we had in November would be one of those. It was too cold to use the balcony, probably the first time ever that I only went out on it once. I don't think it would be desirable to segment BCV categories.

PPS. I think VWL check in people think we like the far end rooms because that's what we often get....referred to as dumpster view, but more significant in my mind as the far end of the hallway. Just for the record, I'm OK with leaving the point structure alone for that one too. I look in the trees, not down...I've seen lots of birds. Yes, there's also delivery people...I don't know, I can see people's point, but it's such a small resort, I would hate to have to change rooms during a vacation just for the view.

I thought I remembered SSR owners getting to request DTD views when they make their reservations and that non-SSR owners didn't stand a chance of getting that view like at BWV boardwalk view? Am I dreaming?