I need to vent. Budget related.

[MnMomtoboys]

I'm not an aide. I'm a parent that believes mainstreaming doesn't work or benefit anyone.

It's taking resources away from "average" kids that fall through the cracks, due to being "average".

ETA: Our public school system is broken and mainstreaming is not the answer.

SERIOUSLY? I have a friend whose son is in a wheelchair. He has a aide to help him and is smarter than most kids but because he has an IEP he should be somewhere else? YOur idea is extremely narrowminded.

I:m seriously pissed off right now.

 

[wtccheermom]

I'm not an aide. I'm a parent that believes mainstreaming doesn't work or benefit anyone.

It's taking resources away from "average" kids that fall through the cracks, due to being "average".

ETA: Our public school system is broken and mainstreaming is not the answer.

I was referring to cristielf and post 92. You said it right though you’re a parent who believes mainstreaming does not work not a professional or a parent of special needs child who knows the benefits (even if they are few) of mainstreaming.

 

[Hannathy]

SERIOUSLY? I have a friend whose son is in a wheelchair. He has a aide to help him and is smarter than most kids but because he has an IEP he should be somewhere else? YOur idea is extremely narrowminded.

I:m seriously pissed off right now.

There is a large difference in a child who can learn and needs an aid and many of these children with multiple aids who will not learn and will not ever be able to live on there own or support themselves. There has to be a limit, there is not an endless amount of money.

I'm not sure why this thread has become about special needs.

My whole point and always has been is that the school district unless they can prove the aid destroyed the hearing aid on purpose should not be held accountable for an accident. And the taxpayers of that district should not be buying a new hearing aid.

 

[SaraJayne]

I was referring to cristielf and post 92. You said it right though you’re a parent who believes mainstreaming does not work not a professional or a parent of special needs child who knows the benefits (even if they are few) of mainstreaming.

So because I'm "just" a parent, my opinion is dismissed?

OP, I hope you get the result you're looking for from the school, whatever that may be.

 

[MnMomtoboys]

There is a large difference in a child who can learn and needs an aid and many of these children with multiple aids who will not learn and will not ever be able to live on there own or support themselves. There has to be a limit, there is not an endless amount of money.

I'm not sure why this thread has become about special needs.

My whole point and always has been is that the school district unless they can prove the aid destroyed the hearing aid on purpose should not be held accountable for an accident. And the taxpayers of that district should not be buying a new hearing aid.

Thank God it isn't up to you.

 

[fortwildernessishome]

As a special needs parent I find myself profoundly disappointed in some people on this thread.

I am not a special needs parent, but I share your profound disappointment in some of the people on this thread........they need to pull themselves out of the dark ages........thank goodness they do not have special needs children because it sounds as though they would not be able to be an advocate for them and instead let them waste away..........this is a sad thread....

To the OP, I truly hope that the school will take care of your daughter and she has new hearing aids ASAP.

 

[TheZue]

There is a large difference in a child who can learn and needs an aid and many of these children with multiple aids who will not learn and will not ever be able to live on there own or support themselves. There has to be a limit, there is not an endless amount of money.

I'm not sure why this thread has become about special needs.

My whole point and always has been is that the school district unless they can prove the aid destroyed the hearing aid on purpose should not be held accountable for an accident. And the taxpayers of that district should not be buying a new hearing aid.

Well when you figure out how to tell how a special needs child will develop into adulthood at the age of five I'm sure you'll make millions. Unfortunately it isn't even a little obvious which ones will thrive and which won't. And deciding somebody's fate before they've lost their baby teeth seems especially cruel anyways...I would hope Western society has come further than that.

Oh and it's become a special needs debate because people thought the child was somehow responsible for it when they had an aide looking after them. If the child was capable there wouldn't be an aide who was supposed to be aware of what was going on with her.

 

[TwinPrincessMama]

I don't want to get in the middle of this debate but I want offer big hugs to daughtersrus. As the daughter of a special ed teacher who is now the head of special ed department I've seen the problems from both sides and it isn't easy for anyone.

 

[lisajl]

What about Stephen Hawking...pretty sure he would have needed an aide. Not all special needs kids are below average intellegence, in fact I'd bet a lot of them are above.

Amen to this post. good point!

 

[carymomof3]

I'm not an aide. I'm a parent that believes mainstreaming doesn't work or benefit anyone.

It's taking resources away from "average" kids that fall through the cracks, due to being "average".

ETA: Our public school system is broken and mainstreaming is not the answer.

I'm going to have to let this thread go after reading this as my blood pressure is at unhealthy levels.

My DS is 17. He is an honors student, takes AP classes, is an FCA officer and a member of the Drama Club. Because of a genetic disease, he also uses a power wheelchair, is unable to feed himself, toilet himself, pick up a book or raise his hand to ask a question ... among other things. If not for his 1:1 aide (who earns minimum wage for the job), he would not be able to attend mainstream classes. To suggest that he should be sent to a special school - or none at all - is draconian.

It is my profound hope that some of the PPs are never entrusted with the care of special needs children. What a frightening thought.

And now I am going to go help my highly intelligent son sharpen a pencil. Because he deserves to have someone help.

 

[cristielf]

I'm not sure why this thread has become about special needs.

My whole point and always has been is that the school district unless they can prove the aid destroyed the hearing aid on purpose should not be held accountable for an accident. And the taxpayers of that district should not be buying a new hearing aid.

I don't understand why people disagree with this! If they can prove the aide was negligent then they should pay, otherwise the parents should buy their child a new one. Simple.. and people wonder why our schools are in the financial shape that they are in.

 

[TheZue]

I don't understand why people disagree with this! If they can prove the aide was negligent then they should pay, otherwise the parents should buy their child a new one. Simple.. and people wonder why our schools are in the financial shape that they are in.

Hmmm so if I'm ever in a traffic accident I didn't MEAN to cause I'll just say it was accident and I won't have to pay. I didn't crash into that truck ON PURPOSE!!!!

 

[dogluva]

but actually we are discriminating against the average student. They are the only ones getting things taken away. Why can't some of these children share 1:1 aids? If my child has to share a book with 10 other kids I think they can share aids. Maybe they don't get to go to programs where they fly kites, all things like that have been done away with in the average students school.
Cut backs have to be across the board and not at the expense of only the average student.

And accidents happen things get lost and that is why you have insurance you don't expect the school to pay.

I think this is a terrible way to look at this. We are talking about a DISABLED child, not a regular education child. A disabled child misses out on so much, not just a math book. In the whole scheme of things, this is petty. You should be so grateful that your REGULAR education child can do math. I have six very healthy and regular kids and I would give up a couple of things that they have so a special needs child can have some type of normalcy, even for a few hours. They are not "taking" anything away from your typical child-your typical child is just that!That in itself is so much! I don't understand this way of looking at this at all-I find it horrible! The average student can go out and fly a kite on his own, he doesn't need a one on one aid to do it!

 

[cristielf]

Hmmm so if I'm ever in a traffic accident I didn't MEAN to cause I'll just say it was accident and I won't have to pay. I didn't crash into that truck ON PURPOSE!!!!

If you are so concerned, why don't YOU generously pay for it? Yeah, didn't think so. I'm sure you don't want to do it personally, but you expect other taxpayers to pay for it.

 

[MnMomtoboys]

Well when you figure out how to tell how a special needs child will develop into adulthood at the age of five I'm sure you'll make millions. Unfortunately it isn't even a little obvious which ones will thrive and which won't. And deciding somebody's fate before they've lost their baby teeth seems especially cruel anyways...I would hope Western society has come further than that.

Oh and it's become a special needs debate because people thought the child was somehow responsible for it when they had an aide looking after them. If the child was capable there wouldn't be an aide who was supposed to be aware of what was going on with her.

What about all those people that ended up on drugs or in jail. What a waste of my taxes. I should get my money back.

 

[jerseygirl81]

but actually we are discriminating against the average student. They are the only ones getting things taken away. Why can't some of these children share 1:1 aids? If my child has to share a book with 10 other kids I think they can share aids. Maybe they don't get to go to programs where they fly kites, all things like that have been done away with in the average students school.
Cut backs have to be across the board and not at the expense of only the average student.

And accidents happen things get lost and that is why you have insurance you don't expect the school to pay.

I work as a teachers aid with a child with a severe disability, he needs constant assistance with his equipment, feeding him at lunch, taking him to the bathroom, getting him in and out of his wheelchair and walker for phys ed and therapy etc. There is no way a child with such a severe disability as this child and the OP's can share an aid with another student. We do have aids who move around to classes and help several children at a time. Some children need help in some classes like math or language arts and not in gym or lunch. Aids are not paid much I work part time and have no benefits. I understand the frustration with many program cuts, increasing class sizes and many other things school districts are losing these days, there is many other people making a good chunk of change in the school systems crying the blues about being underpaid when they are making much more than DH & I together. To the OP I feel for her as a parent of a severely disabled child life can be very difficult on a good day, when this sort of thing happens it just make life much more difficult, I hope you are able to get this straightened out soon. Linda

 

[TheZue]

If you are so concerned, why don't YOU generously pay for it? Yeah, didn't think so. I'm sure you don't want to do it personally, but you expect other taxpayers to pay for it.

Maybe the taxpayers should have hired somebody that would actually do their job well. I just think the aide was negligent, either she saw it and did nothing or didn't pay enough attention to see it happen. Honestly the taxpayer is lucky they didn't get sued over the femur injury. Any other case of neglegence nobody would say "well they didn't do it on purpose" but for some reason a bunch of people are here; and it makes no sense beyond they view this child and her family as inferior and don't have enough empathy to realize the school is still in the wrong even if their child would never be in that situation.

 

[dogluva]

I'm not an aide. I'm a parent that believes mainstreaming doesn't work or benefit anyone.

It's taking resources away from "average" kids that fall through the cracks, due to being "average".

ETA: Our public school system is broken and mainstreaming is not the answer.

This is so pathetic. Most kids are average, that is what being average is, part of the norm. Not all average kids fall through the cracks. There are many, many kids who are just average (not on the Dis boards however but in real life) who go through life just fine. Disabled children are ALWAYS going to have it more difficult regardless of how many "extras" they have. I dont' think you get it.

 

[robinb]

If you are so concerned, why don't YOU generously pay for it? Yeah, didn't think so. I'm sure you don't want to do it personally, but you expect other taxpayers to pay for it.

I looked back at some of your other posts in the last month and expected more compassion from you than you have shown on this thread.

 

[Hannathy]

Maybe the taxpayers should have hired somebody that would actually do their job well. I just think the aide was negligent, either she saw it and did nothing or didn't pay enough attention to see it happen. Honestly the taxpayer is lucky they didn't get sued over the femur injury. Any other case of neglegence nobody would say "well they didn't do it on purpose" but for some reason a bunch of people are here; and it makes no sense beyond they view this child and her family as inferior and don't have enough empathy to realize the school is still in the wrong even if their child would never be in that situation.

They did sue over the leg.

And that is the only point to this thread. If the aid was negligent, did it on purpose then it is the aids responsibility to pay. BUT if it was an accident then it is not the schools responsibility.