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Not to enable but with the LUX you can get the $300 credit x2 once this year and again next year before the annual fee posts.

Keep in mind that the $300 Marriott credit is a membership year credit, not a calendar year credit typical of the airline fee credit on other premium Amex cards. By comparison, the CSR’s $300 travel credit for more recent applicants switched to a membership year credit too. You may be able to double dip the Marriott credit depending on when the credit renews vs. when the second year annual fee posts and comes due.
 
I wonder if Doc is right with the speculation that it increases after the 26th.

It’s a pathetic introductory offer on a $450 AF “Luxury” card. I liked someone’s comment on r/churning that Amex is throwing scraps to those of us who would be locked out of this card in 3 days. Take the 100k now or wait 2 years and hope for something better. I doubt Amex would increase the welcome bonus as soon as 8/26, but Amex increases their offers for limited times all the time (I’m thinking like the Hilton cards back in May-June).
 
Apologize if this was answered earlier but I started a response and then got busy with work (and life) and had to leave.

When is your trip? Could you just cancel your rooms with UR’s and then book with Disney (however you want your ultimate package to look) and then call Chase Cruise and Tours and have them take over the package? In January I booked rooms with UR’s and then after fact tried to add dining plan. No luck. But for upcoming October trip just booked with Disney and then transferred. Easy to do if within 30 days. If you have time and there is room availability I would cancel your trip, redo reservation with Disney directly, then transfer reservation to Chase and pay with UR’s.
Thanks for the feedback but I have rented points for most of my stay and only used URs to add a day in the end of my trip!
 
@wendow my Best Buy RMN went to pending today! going to have DH check his now. ETA DHs did too! Fingers crossed! I also was able to cash out my second online staples purchase, the one that was ink plus a $15 Darden GC.

It’s a pathetic introductory offer on a $450 AF “Luxury” card. I liked someone’s comment on r/churning that Amex is throwing scraps to those of us who would be locked out of this card in 3 days. Take the 100k now or wait 2 years and hope for something better. I doubt Amex would increase the welcome bonus as soon as 8/26, but Amex increases their offers for limited times all the time (I’m thinking like the Hilton cards back in May-June).
Someone on r/churning said they saw offer available until 10/31 in the fine print when applying. I figure I can feasibly wait until the end of the month or so.
 

well, good morning folks!

I am the happy owner of a new American Express SPG Lux card! Couldn't resist! Instant approval!

That will make 5 cards Spg Lux, Spg Personal, Spg Business, Marriott personal and Marriott Business!

:thumbsup2………………:teleport:………:yay:.......:cool1:............pixiedust:
1 night.... 2 night.... 3 night.... 4 night... 5 nights Ah ah Ahhhh!
 
Hi everyone! New to this thread :) I apologize if this is a really dumb question, but I have such little experience in this department and am a bit over my head reading through the thread. The only credit card I have is the Discover IT chrome card.

I'm going on my honeymoon next year, and we are either doing a Disney/Punta Cana double trip, or a trip to Hawaii. I'd love to pay for our flights using points from a card sign-up (thinking the Chase Sapphire Preferred). We'd fly SW if we did the Disney/Punta Cana trip, and either American or United for the Hawaii trip if we did that (hopefully in first class)!

My main question is - I need to spend $4,000 in the first three months with the CSP to get the bonus. If I pay my rent for two months, I'll be over $4,000 (with other misc. purchases). Would that count, or is rent/mortgage/home payments excluded for some reason?

Sorry if that's a dumb question, and if anyone has any tips for me they would be greatly appreciated :)


Hi and Welcome...no dumb questions here...everyone is really helpful

The Chase cards are good Way to start the UR points are versatile.....you can book hotels with them or transfer to their travel partners
Does your rental company allow the rent to be paid with a cc...if so it would count towards the $4,000. Other things you can put on it are cable, tv, phone bills, insurance....some prepay these to meet the spend...
 
It’s a pathetic introductory offer on a $450 AF “Luxury” card. I liked someone’s comment on r/churning that Amex is throwing scraps to those of us who would be locked out of this card in 3 days. Take the 100k now or wait 2 years and hope for something better. I doubt Amex would increase the welcome bonus as soon as 8/26, but Amex increases their offers for limited times all the time (I’m thinking like the Hilton cards back in May-June).

Hmmm, one thing I didn't exactly consider is the lifetime bonus restriction...though, not sure how much better (doubt the AF gets waived, maybe 150K?), relatively speaking, the offer could get down the road such that it would be worth the trade-off of waiting two years. For my own situation, if I plan to be done with Marriott, generally speaking (i.e. exhausting most of my points on trips in the next year or two), do I need/want to replenish my stash in two years and have it take longer to rebuild to a point where it's a worthwhile redemption? Or just take the 100K down and earn and burn? With Marriott developing a game plan to becoming more restrictive on bonuses, this makes me lean more towards taking it now, burn, move on, and see how the churning landscape evolves down the road.
 
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Keep in mind that the $300 Marriott credit is a membership year credit, not a calendar year credit typical of the airline fee credit on other premium Amex cards. By comparison, the CSR’s $300 travel credit for more recent applicants switched to a membership year credit too. You may be able to double dip the Marriott credit depending on when the credit renews vs. when the second year annual fee posts and comes due.
Ahh got it. Thought it was per calendar year. That makes it trickier because I value the free nights I would just want to downgrade not cancel. But if the SPG regular is fazed out I’m stuck with the LUX
 
Looking at hotels for our churning-funded June 2019 WDW trip and I have a couple questions...

Do you guys think it's safe to wait until discounts come out to book, or should I book as soon as I have the UR and then have them apply the discount later (You can do that, right?)? In that case, do you just get the UR's back?

Also, how big is the "fifth sleeper" bed at POR? Any chance it would fit a tall 12 yo? My kids hate sleeping together so much these days that we've taken to traveling with an air mattress, but of course I would like to avoid that if possible.
 
Hmmm, one thing I didn't exactly consider is the lifetime bonus restriction...though, not sure how much better (doubt the AF gets waived, maybe 150K?), relatively speaking, the offer could get down the road such that it would be worth the trade-off of waiting two years. For my own situation, if I plan to do done with Marriott, generally speaking (i.e. exhausting most of my points on trips in the next year or two), do I need/want to replenish my stash in two years and have it take longer to rebuild to a point where it's a worthwhile redemption? Or just take the 100K down and earn and burn? With Marriott developing a game plan to becoming more restrictive on bonuses, this makes me lean more towards taking it now, burn, move on, and see how the churning landscape evolves down the road.

This is my thought, get it now, earn and burn in the next year and then move on to a different hotel brand, unless things change.

Could someone tell me if my SPG business will still earn the 15 night's to my Marriott/starwood status and if it does, when should I see them posted to my account? Thanks!
 
We are going to go on an 8 day, 7 night trip in late January. We have a family of 4; 2 adults and 2 children ages 5 and 8 at time of travel.

It will be a split stay:
4 Nights @ Disney's Boardwalk Resort in a Standard Room
3 Nights @ Disney's Contemporary Resort in a Theme Park View Room

We will not rent a car and will use DME and Disney Transportation (primarily we'll be walking to most parks).
- We will go to Epcot, HS, Epcot, HS the first 4 days. (walk or boat)
- We will take a bus to MK on our resort transfer day and then walk back to Contemporary that evening to checkin
- We will bus to AK and back on the 6th day
- We will walk to MK on day 7 and 8.

We are flying roundtrip nonstop on Southwest Airlines. 3 of the tickets are on SW RR points @ 18,399 each (55,197 SW RR points total). The 4th ticket is booked on a companion pass which I have through the end of 2019. The cash cost would have been $1,128. We do have to pay the $44.80 in Taxes/Fees on the flights but that will be covered with some misc CC cashback I earned so the flights in my accounting books is 100% free.

The rooms are rack rate $4,233 and my spreadsheet assumes we will get a 20% discount for a net cost of $3,386.40. Our tickets are $1,767.92. TOTAL Disney package cost will be $5,154.32 - requiring 343,621 URs (which we have). If the 20% discount doesn't come through it will require another 56k URs which we would have by the time I book it...but I'm pretty confident in getting some hotel savings.

Our dining and souven'ear budget is assumed to be about $1,400. That includes 7 table service meals and the rest quick service (with breakfast being cereal in our room each morning). I have the $1,400 fully covered with Disney Rewards dollars. I was very fortunate to max out fully referrals on 3 Disney credit cards via DoctorOfCredit and r/churning earlier this year when they released that new $200 offer. So the $1,400 is fully covered via those rewards.

So in total we are taking an $8,500 trip rack rate fully loaded. It will cost us nothing - FREE - and it's all thanks to this hobby! It's crazy to type all of this out...it's just insane, LOL!

EDIT: For anybody new to our thread reading this - this is not bragging. This is what we do here! Anybody can do this with some pre-planning. Sure the Disney Rewards is a little bit of a fluke, but put that aside...fully covering flights, hotel and tickets (and maybe dining) is possible with 6-8 credit cards, meticulously planned. If 2 spouses are willing to play the game you can earn that amount of points in a year pretty easily!

I love reading these posts!!! :worship:
As much as I'd love to do a completely free trip, I'm way too impatient to hold on to my URs that long. We have used a ton of URs for WDW resort stays on several trips over the last few years though and I've been very happy with the redemptions. None of this would have been possible without the guidance from the great members of this thread!!

This isn't as broken down as yours is, but here's what I've used my URs for:
06/03/17 - 06/10/17, 7 nights at POR for 107,602 UR
10/04/17 - 10/10/17, 6 nights at Pop for 79,021 UR
12/23/17 - 12/25/17, 2 nights at POR for 39,795 UR
03/30/18 - 04/06/18, 7 nights at POR for 134,371 UR

We have made use of our SW RR points and CP too, so there's that. Used mostly swagbucks payouts turned Disney GCs for food and other spending too.

We're flying in next Thursday for an adults trip at the Swan booked with my SPG points for both rooms. So those rooms were basically free too, besides the resort fees.

We are currently sitting on about 120,000 UR and looking into booking a trip for Mardi Gras week (March 2019), but can't decide where we want to stay. We'll be traveling with my SIL and BIL with their kiddos. They are wanting to stay deluxe this time around, which I'm not opposed to. However, they want to rent DVC points to do a 2-bed villa at BLT or something. I cannot figure out any way to use our URs for our portion of that besides cashing them in for a statement credit (gasp :crazy2:). I would really prefer to use my URs with Chase to get the full 1.5 value with my CSR, but of course we wouldn't have the same rates as renting DVC points. It's so hard to let go of that extra value for my URs. Decisions, decisions.
 
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Hi and welcome......I was also brought up to pay cash for everything....so when I found this group in May it was eye opening the amount of points you can acquire to use towards trips.

For your first card, since you don’t want to apply for a business card yet, I’d recommend the Chase Sapphire Preferred if you can meet the $4,000 spend in the first 3 months since it will give you 50,000UR points and there is no annual fee the first year...

also your husband can refer your for the CSR...getting 10,000UR points in his account. Does this sound like something you’d be comfortable doing ?

Yes, I would be interested in the CSP. I thought read somewhere that I couldn't apply for the CSP since I am an authorized user on my husbands account? I'm researching so much information that I could have mixed that up.
 
Hi everyone! New to this thread :) I apologize if this is a really dumb question, but I have such little experience in this department and am a bit over my head reading through the thread. The only credit card I have is the Discover IT chrome card.

I'm going on my honeymoon next year, and we are either doing a Disney/Punta Cana double trip, or a trip to Hawaii. I'd love to pay for our flights using points from a card sign-up (thinking the Chase Sapphire Preferred). We'd fly SW if we did the Disney/Punta Cana trip, and either American or United for the Hawaii trip if we did that (hopefully in first class)!

My main question is - I need to spend $4,000 in the first three months with the CSP to get the bonus. If I pay my rent for two months, I'll be over $4,000 (with other misc. purchases). Would that count, or is rent/mortgage/home payments excluded for some reason?

Sorry if that's a dumb question, and if anyone has any tips for me they would be greatly appreciated :)

:welcome:

And congratulations on the wedding and honeymoon!

You’ve come to the right place! We’re all about helping each other travel for free, for less, or take trips we otherwise wouldn’t have been able to take by taking advantage of bonuses and benefits offered by credit cards! I’m thinking @amalone1013 travel hacked her honeymoon recently (maybe her wedding too)!

I’m usually much more helpful, but I’ve got to get my morning started. I’ll make two points and then leave you in the friendly, and capable hands of others here.

1. If you’re considering a CSP, you really should consider what we call a “double dip” — that is applying for both the Chase Sapphire Preferred (“CSP”) and Chase Sapphire Reserve (“CSR”) together. That’s because Chase has a so-called “one Sapphire rule” that limits you to having only one Sapphire card at a time, and restricting you to only one 50,000 Ultimate Rewards (“UR”) points bonus from one of the Sapphire cards every 24 months. If you were to apply for both the CSP and CSR together, and get them approved on the same day, you could get around the restriction and get yourself 100,000 UR points from those two cards. When redeemed for travel (e.g., flight, hotels, car rentals, cruises, Disney packages and tickets) through the CSR, 100k UR are worth $1,500 in free travel.

2. Applying for both the CSR and CSP will combine for $8,000 in minimum required spend (“MSR”) in the same 3 months period.

You said, if you pay your rent for two months, you’ll be over $4,000 (with other misc. purchases). That sounds like you have at least $2,000 in spend/month. If you can shift a few more bills or perhaps pre-pay some bills onto a credit card, you can cover $8,000 in MSR in 3 months. And there are other tricks to meeting that spend that we don’t mind sharing.

To your question about rent, yes you can absolutely pay rent with Chase Visa cards. I do it every month. There are numerous ways to do this. Your apartment may be set up to receive rent paid by credit cards directly through a website or portal. Often, this involves some kind of credit card fee. Evaluate whether this is the lowest fee you can get. Another way to pay rent with your credit card is through a service called Plastiq, which allows you to use your credit cards to pay many kinds of bills that don’t take credit cards, or charge a higher fee than the 2.5% fee that Plastiq charges for its service.

On the subject of fees — we don’t like them, but if it helps you meet MSRs, then the value you get from the signup bonuses usually outweigh that cost. If you can do more organic spending that don’t carry fees on the cards, great! However, at worst, 2.5% fee on a $2,000 rent payment is $50; x4 = $200, but you’d be working towards signup bonuses worth $1,500.

Set up a payment through Plastiq, and Plastiq will have a check mailed to your landlord or property manager in 7-10 business days. Payments through Plastiq, and rent generally, count towards the MSR on Chase cards. (Since you mentioned it, mortgages are restricted and more hit or miss.) The limitation to Plastiq is that Visa recently placed restrictions on many of their consumer/personal credit cards, including the CSR and CSP, that limit payments through Plastiq to 20% of the credit limit on the card. So depending on your assigned credit limit and the cost of your rent, you may come up against that limitation and have to separate your payments or get a little creative.

One last thing, if you’re interested in pursuing credit card bonuses and benefits, I’d encourage you to join our Reddit group called DISchurners, where we have helpful posts, including guides to travel hacking for Disney, and links to applying for credit cards that support each other in this community. Just let us know if you’re interested
 
Hi everyone! New to this thread :) I apologize if this is a really dumb question, but I have such little experience in this department and am a bit over my head reading through the thread. The only credit card I have is the Discover IT chrome card.

I'm going on my honeymoon next year, and we are either doing a Disney/Punta Cana double trip, or a trip to Hawaii. I'd love to pay for our flights using points from a card sign-up (thinking the Chase Sapphire Preferred). We'd fly SW if we did the Disney/Punta Cana trip, and either American or United for the Hawaii trip if we did that (hopefully in first class)!

My main question is - I need to spend $4,000 in the first three months with the CSP to get the bonus. If I pay my rent for two months, I'll be over $4,000 (with other misc. purchases). Would that count, or is rent/mortgage/home payments excluded for some reason?

Sorry if that's a dumb question, and if anyone has any tips for me they would be greatly appreciated :)
There really aren't dumb questions around here. This is a simple game on the surface with numerous complications under the surface. Here's some thoughts:
  • MANY places won't accept rent on a credit card. Do you know that yours does?
  • If they don't there are some ways to still pay with a credit card but you'll incur a fee (that likely would be worth it to earn the bonus)
  • IF you are specifically looking at flights and know the airlines you'll use...it might make more sense to get those airlines cards (i.e. the Southwest Card or the United Card) vs. getting a CSP. Another reason why signing up for the airline card could make sense is because some of those cards offer additional benefits with the airline (free bag, upgraded boarding, etc.)
  • Now, if you truly can't narrow down which place you're going, a more generic travel card (Chase Sapphire Reserve, Chase Sapphire Preferred, etc.) makes a lot more sense so you don't get stuck with one airline or travel program.
  • What month will this trip take place? Depending on how much time you have, you could sign up for multiple cards to really save on your trip.
  • Do you think there's any chance you could meet an $8,000 MSR (minimum spend requirement) in 3 months, or is that beyond what you'd feel comfortable spending? If you could, we would suggest double dipping both the CSR and CSP cards. (BUT DON'T spend money you didn't intend to in this hobby just to earn a bonus ;))
  • Also - do you have any side hustle or hobby where you earn money? If so you could qualify for a business card AND there's a really lucrative offer on the Chase Ink Preferred (CIP) out there right now! It requires you to spend $5,000 in 3 months though.
We have a private group on reddit called DISchurners where we keep track of some of our best tips AND you can support other DISers when you signup for a card. You can PM me about it if you want to join.
 
Looking at hotels for our churning-funded June 2019 WDW trip and I have a couple questions...

Do you guys think it's safe to wait until discounts come out to book, or should I book as soon as I have the UR and then have them apply the discount later (You can do that, right?)? In that case, do you just get the UR's back?

Also, how big is the "fifth sleeper" bed at POR? Any chance it would fit a tall 12 yo? My kids hate sleeping together so much these days that we've taken to traveling with an air mattress, but of course I would like to avoid that if possible.

Hi there!

I can't answer your UR question, but the "fifth sleeper" at POR is a small pull down bed underneath the TV. I don't think your tall 12 yo would fit comfortably. I'm 5'2", and cannot fit. I hope that helps!
 
Yes, I would be interested in the CSP. I thought read somewhere that I couldn't apply for the CSP since I am an authorized user on my husbands account? I'm researching so much information that I could have mixed that up.
Being an authorized user on your husband's account will NOT exclude you from getting your own CSP. He could refer you to a CSP and he'd earn 10k Ultimate Rewards Points (URs) and you earn the full bonus too!

Would you be able to hit an $8,000 combined Minimum Spend Requirement (MSR) in 3 months? If so, you could even double dip the CSR (Chase Sapphire Reserve) and CSP cards to really jump start your points earnings!
 
well, good morning folks!

I am the happy owner of a new American Express SPG Lux card! Couldn't resist! Instant approval!

That will make 5 cards Spg Lux, Spg Personal, Spg Business, Marriott personal and Marriott Business!

Awesome! Conrgats!!!

I like hearing this :)

Congrats!

Thank you!

BOOM!

pixiedust::cool1:party::cool1:pixiedust:

Thank you!

Just to add a DP, this will make my 5th Amex credit card. I also have two Amex charge cards in addition to the 5 Amex credit cards. Some time ago I'd read 4 was the max on credit cards with Amex. Then there were DPs suggesting 4/5 and I've seen more recent DPs suggesting a possibility for a 6th one to get approved. I will likely test that theory down the road.
 
@schmass and @DisneyMandC - sometimes, going directly to the source is the answer.

From the Offer Terms for the Amex SPG Personal:

Effective 8/26, welcome offer not available to applicants who have or have had The Marriott Rewards® Premier Credit Card from Chase, The Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus Credit Card from Chase, The Marriott Rewards Credit Card from Chase, or The Ritz-Carlton Rewards® Credit Card from JP Morgan in the last 30 days.
No mention of the Marriott Biz. VftW was right. Getting the Marriott Biz now won't disqualify you from getting the SPG Personal after 8/26.
In Skagway so haven’t read disboards since Monday. Confirming that you can get spg bonus if you have gotten a Marriott bonus in the last two years. Anything else I should know?
 
We are going to go on an 8 day, 7 night trip in late January. We have a family of 4; 2 adults and 2 children ages 5 and 8 at time of travel.

It will be a split stay:
4 Nights @ Disney's Boardwalk Resort in a Standard Room
3 Nights @ Disney's Contemporary Resort in a Theme Park View Room

We will not rent a car and will use DME and Disney Transportation (primarily we'll be walking to most parks).
- We will go to Epcot, HS, Epcot, HS the first 4 days. (walk or boat)
- We will take a bus to MK on our resort transfer day and then walk back to Contemporary that evening to checkin
- We will bus to AK and back on the 6th day
- We will walk to MK on day 7 and 8.

We are flying roundtrip nonstop on Southwest Airlines. 3 of the tickets are on SW RR points @ 18,399 each (55,197 SW RR points total). The 4th ticket is booked on a companion pass which I have through the end of 2019. The cash cost would have been $1,128. We do have to pay the $44.80 in Taxes/Fees on the flights but that will be covered with some misc CC cashback I earned so the flights in my accounting books is 100% free.

The rooms are rack rate $4,233 and my spreadsheet assumes we will get a 20% discount for a net cost of $3,386.40. Our tickets are $1,767.92. TOTAL Disney package cost will be $5,154.32 - requiring 343,621 URs (which we have). If the 20% discount doesn't come through it will require another 56k URs which we would have by the time I book it...but I'm pretty confident in getting some hotel savings.

Our dining and souven'ear budget is assumed to be about $1,400. That includes 7 table service meals and the rest quick service (with breakfast being cereal in our room each morning). I have the $1,400 fully covered with Disney Rewards dollars. I was very fortunate to max out fully referrals on 3 Disney credit cards via DoctorOfCredit and r/churning earlier this year when they released that new $200 offer. So the $1,400 is fully covered via those rewards.

So in total we are taking an $8,500 trip rack rate fully loaded. It will cost us nothing - FREE - and it's all thanks to this hobby! It's crazy to type all of this out...it's just insane, LOL!

EDIT: For anybody new to our thread reading this - this is not bragging. This is what we do here! Anybody can do this with some pre-planning. Sure the Disney Rewards is a little bit of a fluke, but put that aside...fully covering flights, hotel and tickets (and maybe dining) is possible with 6-8 credit cards, meticulously planned. If 2 spouses are willing to play the game you can earn that amount of points in a year pretty easily!

I wanted to add my congrats on this amazing redemption!!! It is always such a joy to see how one of our fellow members on this thread used their points and miles to put together an amazing trip that will create fantastic memories. Well done!!!!
 
well, good morning folks!

I am the happy owner of a new American Express SPG Lux card! Couldn't resist! Instant approval!

That will make 5 cards Spg Lux, Spg Personal, Spg Business, Marriott personal and Marriott Business!

Awww snap. You’re just one shy of completing the Starriott Gauntlet! Jk jk!

Congratulations!
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